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Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« on: July 26, 2011, 07:46:43 PM »
How long does the Lemosax/Sonosax last w/ [2] 9v alkaline batteries ??? They will be powering schoeps mk41s thru a KCY cable :) My 16v/19v DVD Battery just DIED on me ??? :'( :( And I need to know how long 9v's will last sdince I cant order a new DVD Battery for a week or 2 :)

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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 10:12:08 PM »
How long does the Lemosax/Sonosax last w/ [2] 9v alkaline batteries ??? They will be powering schoeps mk41s thru a KCY cable :) My 16v/19v DVD Battery just DIED on me ??? :'( :( And I need to know how long 9v's will last sdince I cant order a new DVD Battery for a week or 2 :)

TIA,
Bean

P.S.-I used to own and run 480>Sax, but that was back in 2006 and I cant remember how long it ran. I used 10xAA Battery holders back then tho :)

that means that you have the polarity backwards and you tripped it. to reset the unit, plug the charger back into it and connect to the wall. then disconnect the charger and try turning the battery on. it should work.

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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 11:47:11 PM »
How long does the Lemosax/Sonosax last w/ [2] 9v alkaline batteries ??? They will be powering schoeps mk41s thru a KCY cable :) My 16v/19v DVD Battery just DIED on me ??? :'( :( And I need to know how long 9v's will last sdince I cant order a new DVD Battery for a week or 2 :)

TIA,
Bean

P.S.-I used to own and run 480>Sax, but that was back in 2006 and I cant remember how long it ran. I used 10xAA Battery holders back then tho :)

that means that you have the polarity backwards and you tripped it. to reset the unit, plug the charger back into it and connect to the wall. then disconnect the charger and try turning the battery on. it should work.

It worked fine prior to this tho. I am 100% sure it worked fine the last 2 days, it just up and DIED on me :'(
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250/0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
SanDisk 128gb Extreme Pro & 64gb Ultra Plus SDXC-I

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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2011, 01:46:54 AM »
How long does the Lemosax/Sonosax last w/ [2] 9v alkaline batteries ??? They will be powering schoeps mk41s thru a KCY cable :) My 16v/19v DVD Battery just DIED on me ??? :'( :( And I need to know how long 9v's will last sdince I cant order a new DVD Battery for a week or 2 :)

TIA,
Bean

P.S.-I used to own and run 480>Sax, but that was back in 2006 and I cant remember how long it ran. I used 10xAA Battery holders back then tho :)

that means that you have the polarity backwards and you tripped it. to reset the unit, plug the charger back into it and connect to the wall. then disconnect the charger and try turning the battery on. it should work.

It worked fine prior to this tho. I am 100% sure it worked fine the last 2 days, it just up and DIED on me :'(

Maybe. I had one go this summer and it wouldn't charge at all, didn't even attempt to charge. It was virtually unused too, maybe 3 or 4 charges on it (I'd logged maybe 50 hours on it, maybe just 40).

Had you used it at all or was this the first time you'd powered it up to see if it worked?
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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2011, 09:09:05 AM »
How long does the Lemosax/Sonosax last w/ [2] 9v alkaline batteries ???

At least 4 1/2 - 5 hours, maybe more.
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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2011, 02:46:05 PM »
How long does the Lemosax/Sonosax last w/ [2] 9v alkaline batteries ??? They will be powering schoeps mk41s thru a KCY cable :) My 16v/19v DVD Battery just DIED on me ??? :'( :( And I need to know how long 9v's will last sdince I cant order a new DVD Battery for a week or 2 :)

TIA,
Bean

P.S.-I used to own and run 480>Sax, but that was back in 2006 and I cant remember how long it ran. I used 10xAA Battery holders back then tho :)

that means that you have the polarity backwards and you tripped it. to reset the unit, plug the charger back into it and connect to the wall. then disconnect the charger and try turning the battery on. it should work.

It worked fine prior to this tho. I am 100% sure it worked fine the last 2 days, it just up and DIED on me :'(

Maybe. I had one go this summer and it wouldn't charge at all, didn't even attempt to charge. It was virtually unused too, maybe 3 or 4 charges on it (I'd logged maybe 50 hours on it, maybe just 40).

Had you used it at all or was this the first time you'd powered it up to see if it worked?

Yes, it worked for 2 days and then just went DEAD
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250/0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
SanDisk 128gb Extreme Pro & 64gb Ultra Plus SDXC-I

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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2011, 02:46:23 PM »
How long does the Lemosax/Sonosax last w/ [2] 9v alkaline batteries ???

At least 4 1/2 - 5 hours, maybe more.

Thanks Brian :)
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250/0 KCY's (x2) ->
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Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2011, 04:34:24 PM »
Lets say I was running my lemosax w/ 2x9v's, AND an external dvd battery. Well, once the external dvd battery dies, would the internals take over seamlessly ???
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
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Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 05:45:24 PM »
Lets say I was running my lemosax w/ 2x9v's, AND an external dvd battery. Well, once the external dvd battery dies, would the internals take over seamlessly ???

Call me a pansy, but I wouldn't trust it, it's a box where your performance is directly tied to what voltage is fed to it. Part of me wouldn't be surprised if they didn't separate the external/internal powering elements and you end up overvolting the box by having both options live.
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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 05:46:44 PM »
Wouldn't 2 9V DVD batteries work?? 
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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 06:15:09 PM »
Wouldn't 2 9V DVD batteries work??

I'd guess you'd likely get grounding issues. It's finicky about it's power, I mean, think about it, if upping the voltage from 16 to 19 yeilds a higher headroom in the amp stage, there can't be too much involved in the way of power conditioning in the box...
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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 10:57:48 PM »
Page, have you ever powered your sax w/ 2x9v's ???  How much run time did you get?
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250/0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 11:12:42 PM »
Page, have you ever powered your sax w/ 2x9v's ???  How much run time did you get?

I never did outside of just testing it once. I know that Jason would switch his 9v at setbreak during Phish when he used it because it seemed to start the low battery flashing like mid second set and he was worried it might crap out near the encore if it was a long show. Both his and mine were normal P48 units though so the draw might be more, I don't know. Brian's got a better handle on it.

If you can get a set of 4 rechargeable 9v batteries, it would be a nice stop gap measure until you get a new external battery.
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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2011, 12:23:57 AM »
K, thanks Page!
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250/0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
SanDisk 128gb Extreme Pro & 64gb Ultra Plus SDXC-I

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Re: Lemosax/Sonosax with 9v alkalines ???
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2011, 09:23:33 AM »
Bean, About 5 hours is what I used to get running 9 volts. I use two 9v dvd batteries now and it works fine. Just need a cable made to run both.

 

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