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Deep cleaning vinyl
« on: September 05, 2014, 11:55:49 AM »
I've been lurking long enough to know that there are some vinyl enthusiasts on here, so I'm going to put this out there for feedback: what do you use to deep clean vinyl and why?

I already have several 'light' cleaning solutions (carbon fiber and discwasher brushes) and a stylus cleaner, so I'm all set for getting surface nasties off. I know that deep cleaning can become an expensive task with the vacuum machines, so I'm particularly interested if anyone has compared one of those solutions to other, less expensive 'elbow grease' methods.

My motivation is to record some of my rare (no digital equivalents available) vinyl to digital and I want it to be as clean as possible. In all cases, these discs are scratch free, but old enough to have a lot of deep dirt.

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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 03:33:06 PM »
A vacuum machine is going to remove more dirt than other methods.  If you know someone with a machine, see if you can borrow it.  I would be happy to clean some if you'll pay shipping.  (I have a VPI HW-17F.). The next best thing might be this:

www.amazon.com/SPIN-CLEAN-STARTER-RECORD-WASHER-SYSTEM/dp/B002UKSZUU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409945318&sr=8-1&keywords=spin+clean+record+cleaner

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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 03:46:38 PM »
Has anyone here tried the elmer's glue method???

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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 04:00:41 PM »
^^

Seen it on YouTube; scared to try it...
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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 04:22:11 PM »
Has anyone here tried the elmer's glue method???

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I have heard the before and after of this method and it is unbelievable, but I have never done it myself.   As with anything take your time and you should be fine.
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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2014, 05:51:37 PM »
I have plenty of shitty records. I should try the glue method on something I don't care about.
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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2014, 07:59:57 PM »
I have had great success with the spin clean system, although I am sure the vacuum cleaning machines are superior.
The spin clean is cheap and I have washed hundreds of records with good results.

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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2014, 11:24:04 PM »
Not Elmers, but wood glue seems to be the consensus over on audiokarma. Titebond II seems to be the favorite.

Also lots of DIY threads on vacuum machines and ultrasonic cleaners too.

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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2014, 11:29:37 PM »
How handy are you?

This looks totally cool! A couple of questions:

- Did you need a special coupling between the vacuum hose and the wand?

- How did you mount the platter to the table?

Thanks to everyone for your input so far!

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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2014, 10:17:24 AM »
Thanks very much for the added detail. This looks like it would totally be a worthwhile project for me!

It looks like you mix up your own fluid? Do you pour some fluid on the record, scrub with the discwasher brush and then vacuum? Do really dirty records need multiple scrub/vacuum cycles? Where's the link to the video?  ;D

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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2014, 02:06:26 PM »
This is the Vactrola RCM, by moi'.
It is a VPI vacuum wand based DIY cleaner. 
There are two platters; the left platter is the wet cleaning side, and is manually operated.
The right side is powered by a 6rpm geared motor. The suction is provided by a small Shopvac wet/dry van that is housed inside the unit.

The advantage of two platters is to be able to clean one platter while using the other. Example: wiping used water from wet side while vac'ing the record clean on the vac. side. It keeps things moving right along.







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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2014, 02:48:55 PM »

Not Elmers, but wood glue seems to be the consensus over on audiokarma. Titebond II seems to be the favorite.


Audiokarmedians, they are, not to be taken seriously.

Just say no to vinyl, but for heaven's sake, if you must, do NOT put glue on it, ever.
Vinyl has additives and is a relatively stable chemical soup until the addition of heat or solvents (like those in glues).
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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2014, 03:22:37 PM »
It seems like any glue/adhesive would need some kind of surfactant anyways to reduce the surface tension. I would think that glue (by itself) would have difficultly getting completely down into the grooves. Personally, I'd much rather use distilled water (deionized preferrably) plus a tidbit surfactant (trace detergent, no additives) and a DIY vacuum setup. It'd pose much less risk, introduce less volatiles, and be just as effective.

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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2014, 03:20:07 PM »
I've used wood glue on numerous of records over the last decade and never had a single issue.

but yes a good liquid cleaner as described above will work well too.

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Re: Deep cleaning vinyl
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2014, 11:49:56 AM »

Not Elmers, but wood glue seems to be the consensus over on audiokarma. Titebond II seems to be the favorite.


Audiokarmedians, they are, not to be taken seriously.

Just say no to vinyl, but for heaven's sake, if you must, do NOT put glue on it, ever.
Vinyl has additives and is a relatively stable chemical soup until the addition of heat or solvents (like those in glues).
Unless it's something you enjoy, and then who cares what someone on the internet says.

 

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