Topic: MacAmp won't start

[ericjfrieder]

Mac Amp suddenly won't start on my 10.3.3 Mac. The icon bounces in the dock for a while and then it stops without the little black arrow under it. And the application is listed in the "force quit" menu. Why is this happening? It happens the same with both versions. I just want to listen to my SHNs!

[John Kelly]

Tried trashing your prefs?  That usually fixes most problems...

[ericjfrieder]

Tried that, well, deleted the file "com.subband.MacAmpLiteX.plist" from the preferences folder, but still nothing. Am I supposed to have a preferences folder for this? What is it called?

[scb]

did you recently install the 10.3.3 update?

[ericjfrieder]

yes, but I couldn't tell you if MacAmp stopped right after that or not. It is possible. Does anyone else have this problem?

[scb]

try going to disk utility (applications > utilities) and repair permissions on the boot disk

[super-phat-al]

silly mac users ;-)

[ericjfrieder]

Tried that and nothing new. Do I need to do this from a boot disk?

[scb]

go to

applications > utilites > console and look at the crash log for macamp.  post it here, maybe that'll help

[ericjfrieder]

2004-04-29 21:58:06.371 MacAmp Lite X[507] Exception raised during posting of notification.  Ignored.  exception: Cannot parse a NULL or zero-length data
2004-04-29 21:58:07.920 MacAmp Lite X[507] Exception raised during posting of notification.  Ignored.  exception: Cannot parse a NULL or zero-length data
2004-04-29 22:01:23.783 MacAmp Lite X[510] Exception raised during posting of notification.  Ignored.  exception: XML parser error:
   Encountered unknown tag HTML on line 1
Old-style plist parser error:
   Malformed data byte group at line 1; invalid hex
2004-04-29 22:01:28.151 MacAmp Lite X[510] Exception raised during posting of notification.  Ignored.  exception: Cannot parse a NULL or zero-length data
2004-04-29 22:51:47.995 MacAmp Lite X[549] Exception raised during posting of notification.  Ignored.  exception: XML parser error:
   Encountered unknown tag HTML on line 1
Old-style plist parser error:
   Malformed data byte group at line 1; invalid hex

[ericjfrieder]

system.log also has this over and over

Apr 29 22:53:02 localhost /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: /Applications/MacAmp/MacAmp Lite X.app/Contents/MacOS/MacAmp Lite X could not be launched prebound.
Apr 29 22:53:02 localhost /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: /Applications/MacAmp/MacAmp Lite X.app/Contents/MacOS/MacAmp Lite X couldn't be prebound in the past, and probably can't be prebound now.
Apr 29 22:53:02 localhost /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: 2004-04-29 22:53:02 -0500: prebinding for MacAmp Lite X done.
Apr 29 22:55:03 localhost /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: fix_prebinding quitting for now.

[UnitMnstr]

same deal.  tried the same stuff.  got the same messages.  then did some pre-binding (and re-pre-binding) with Cocktail. still no dice.  

at least one other guy i know has the same thing going on.  you are not alone.  i'll be watching.

thanks.

[UnitMnstr]

Ok, so maybe this'll help, maybe not;
Here's some more info that isn't currently doing me any good.

After letting macamp "not run" for a while, it still doesn't show as being hung up:
"445    MacAmp Lite X   tabrandt   0.00   4   2.86 MB   53.20 MB"

Inspecting with System Profiler shows macamp has the following "Open Files":
/ (/dev/disk0s5)
/dev/null
/dev/console
/dev/console
0x00d1646c file struct, ty=0x3, op=0x30f300
0x00d16568 file struct, ty=0x3, op=0x30f300
->0x010fea2c
->0x010fe920
->0x010fec44
->0x010feb38
cpe-65-72-301-99.mn.rr.com:49726->66.135.239.3:http

(don't worry, i faked up my ip, but you get the idea)

...and a Sample of MacAmp Lite X reads as follows:
2004-04-30 19:50:24.556 sample[650] Couldn't start c++filt for C++ name demangling
Analysis of sampling pid 445 every 10.000000 milliseconds
Call graph:
    279 Thread_0e0b
      279 0x2a4c
        279 0x2bcc
          279 NSApplicationMain
            279 -[NSApplication run]
              279 -[NSApplication finishLaunching]
                279 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:]
                  279 _CFXNotificationPostNotification
                    279 __CFXNotificationPost
                      279 _nsnote_callback
                        279 0x310c
                          279 0x353c
                            279 0x17b34
                              279 0x17bd8
                                279 0x18050
                                  279 0x18228
                                    279 _decodeObject_old
                                      279 0x18a64
                                        279 0x188e8
                                          279 0x186e8
                                            279 -[NSURL resourceDataUsingCache:]
                                              279 +[NSURLConnection sendSynchronousRequest:returningResponse:error:]
                                                279 -[NSURLMonitor wait]
                                                  279 _pthread_cond_wait
                                                    279 semaphore_wait_signal_trap
                                                      279 semaphore_wait_signal_trap
    279 Thread_0f03
      279 _pthread_body
        279 forkThreadForFunction
          279 -[NSSynchronousURLConnectionDelegate run:]
            279 CFRunLoopRun
              279 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
                279 __CFRunLoopRun
                  279 mach_msg
                    279 mach_msg_trap
                      279 mach_msg_trap
    279 Thread_1003
      279 _pthread_body
        279 forkThreadForFunction
          279 +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:]
            279 -[NSRunLoop run]
              279 -[NSRunLoop runMode:beforeDate:]
                279 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
                  279 __CFRunLoopRun
                    279 mach_msg
                      279 mach_msg_trap
                        279 mach_msg_trap
    279 Thread_1103
      279 _pthread_body
        279 _loadRunLoop
          279 select
            279 select

Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5):

Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5):
        mach_msg_trap        558
        select        279
        semaphore_wait_signal_trap        279
Sample analysis of process 445 written to file /dev/stdout
Sampling process 445 each 10 msecs 300 times

Thanks again for taking an interest in this.

[UnitMnstr]

Was it the QuickTime update?  Was it sunspots?  Was it karma for that thing we all did the other day?  No clue.  So, here's what fixed it for me (damn misspelled hidden files)...

Find the invisible .matlx_license and trash it.

You'll need to re-register it.  Since subband is defunct, to get the codes again, you'll want to go to http://www.arcticlounge.com/maltx where they've got all the MacAmp Lite X stuff archived.

Now, back to why...
Hmmm, gee, I wonder.

Be nice, Apple.

[ericjfrieder]

It magically started working for me too, even though I didn't delete the hidden license file. Now my skins are all gone, but that's OK. It works again, and I hope it stays working.

[Chris K]

i had the same problem. i went to www.macamp.com and now it seems the old page with the programs is gone, and they are going to ressurect the program. i wonder if macamp lite was sending a message back to the creators over the internet...what do they call that...calling home?

there is still an archive of the site that i found at wiki.etree.org, and just for my own piece of mind. i d/l and archived the site and all the programs/codes/plugins to cd-r.

in any event. i trashed the original file, and re-installed, and everything worked fine.
 

[greenone]

macamp.com isn't the site for MaltX/Mac Amp Lite X - that's at subband software, which is now defunct (subband.com and macamplite.com is where it was). Now the only place you can get it is at http://arcticlounge.com/maltx/index.php like HotLava said.

For what it's worth, I've used it on a nearly daily basis for the past year-plus and haven't had any problems even after installing all of the latest OS upgrades...I doubt it's calling home because there *is* no home...

--Dave

[John Kelly]

Great, now mine is doing the same thing...

[ericjfrieder]

just a note: be sure to notice that the .matlx-license file is spelled differently than the user name MALTX User. "matlx" vs. "maltx"

A little strange.