Topic: Smallest A/D?

[Crimson]

Crimmycrimcrim is looking for a tiny-ass A/D converter to stealth, 1/8 in and optical out.

suggestions?

[nic]

SBM-1 is about the smallest you can find.
RCA inputs for line-ins...you would have to get a 7-pin>optical for your optical out though.

[Brian Skalinder]

I assume you want optical out to go to an MD or NJB3?  Two options, really:

Denecke AD-20
Requires either hacking your mic cables or using appropriate adapters to convert 1/8" to XLR inputs.  Sound Pros sells an AD-20 with 1/8" input, but it's not cheap.

Sony SBM-1
Modded or stock.  Requires hacked mic cables or adapters to feed 1/4" mic inputs or RCA line inputs.  Also requires a 7-pin / optical output cable.

[Rick]

Sony SBM-1
Requires hacked mic cables or adapters to feed 1/4" mic inputs or RCA line inputs.  

There's a 1/8 mic in too.

[nic]

Sony SBM-1
Requires hacked mic cables or adapters to feed 1/4" mic inputs or RCA line inputs.  

There's a 1/8 mic in too.

the mic in is 2x 1/4"

[nickgregory]

the mic in is 2x 1/4"

keep in mind these inputs are disabled if the line mod is done.

[Chris K]

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keep in mind these inputs are disabled if the line mod is done.

unless you get both mods from the oade's...also the todd modd sbm-1 that i have somehow does not have the mic inputs disabled.  

[Todd R]

unless you get both mods from the oade's...also the todd modd sbm-1 that i have somehow does not have the mic inputs disabled.  

The mod itself does not require that the mic-pre side be disabled.  Doug typically disables the mic-pre input side because the op amps he substitutes draw too much current, overloading the power supply of the SBM1.   So he needs to save on power by removing the chips on the mic-pre side (with the assumption that most of us don't use the mic-pre anyway), reducing overall current draw.  I don't know, but I guess he must do something to beef up the internal power supply when you get both mods.

The parts I use for the mod actually use less power than the stock parts, so I don't need to disable the mic input.  So I leave the mic-pre side intact.  On the few units I've modded, I generally leave the mic side alone.  For the one unit I did for myself, I also changed out the op amps in the mic side, so that unit is mod'd for both mic input and line input.

[Sean Gallemore]

your MD is a tiny ass a/d

[Simp-Dawg]

no 1/8" in but it has rca in's and an optical out, is small, and super cheap...dunno about quality though.
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category=570&item=SP-AD2000&type=store

[John Kelly]

Hmm....looks interesting.  Wonder how it sounds.

[mattb]

I've wondered the same. Somebody get it and let us know!

[Brian Skalinder]

Somebody get it and let us know!

Thanks for volunteering!  When can we expect the BT seed so we can provide feedback?

[mattb]

Sometime in the next few years if I can get to it...

[John Kelly]

Does anyone here have any information on the parts used in the Denecke AD-20
and if there is room inside for a few more ...

Pictures of the inside would be very much apprecitated .. :-)

Thanx
Jon

There's a TON of room inside the AD-20 box.  I don't have it anymore so I can't take pictures, but I'm sure someone here could hook you up.

[AT853rxwh]

Well if it is here tomorrow...  

[Crimson]

Hmm....looks interesting.  Wonder how it sounds.

From SP:

ITEM: SP-AD2000
URL:
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?item=SP-AD2000&category=570&type=store

Q: Is there any more info available on this other than what is in the
overview?


A: All of the specs the manufacturer has given us are on the page,
unfortunately. It can be used for field recording, with a battery for power.
I would not consider it an upgrade from the A/D built into the MD, so there
really would be no reason to do this(use in field recording).



bleh!

[Simp-Dawg]

i don't have a digicam anymore so i can't take pics of mine (ad20 that is)...maybe i can borrow one and post some pics of the innards

[BobW]

Has anyone done a critique of the CoreSound mini-pre/A/D ?

I like the PDAudio flashcard interface, but haven't tried the A/D-Pre.

[chris]

Not sure this is way off track, however, i've posted a thread over at Oade on a contact of mine that's very interested in building a new a/d (w/phantom) similar to that in size of the sbm-1 mod.  Here's the link:
http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/Forum/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=100&topic_id=1442&mesg_id=1442&page=

[Mobius]

So..how viable would it be to make your own A/D...of a similar size to the SP model on the first page. I'm a hardware cretin, though I did manage to make a Theremin a few years back, so its not out of the question that I could pull it off.

However, this is 1) probably far more intricate and 2) with the components needing to be of a high quality (though I am only after something better than the a/d in a very very old sony md) It could be more expensive than is worth it.

So I guess im asking -

How tricky would it be?
How costly would it be? (i'd be after a 1/8" in optical out too)
Anyone know where one might acquire schematics for something along these lines? (i did a bit of lookin but it was all 8bit...low quality etc)

Cheers
Nick

[zhianosatch]

SBM

[Sean Gallemore]

I'll super bit-map you

[zhianosatch]

that's what she said

[Mobius]

how wonderfully post-modern of you guys

thanks for sharing


clubs that play the strokes are terrible, let's continue this convo when im sober and you dont have heavy metal avatars

[Sean Gallemore]

how wonderfully post-modern of you guys

thanks for sharing


clubs that play the strokes are terrible, let's continue this convo when im sober and you dont have heavy metal avatars

[1] the strokes are awful
[2] Ministry is Industrial Metal
[3] Arch Enemy is Melodic Death Metal
[4] I tried looking up a/d diagrams last night to be productive in this thread and I couldn't find shit

[Mobius]

I'm so happy you made an entertaining reply to that....I'm smiling once again

  <<somewhat  like this happy character

and in reply, i was sure that was Dez or whatshisname from Coal Chamber in yer lil pic there.

But all the same, tape Dillinger Escape Plan, theyre the only good thing in metal ive heard since King Crimson - 'Red'.....

And cool, perhaps one of the other loverly individuals here could help with my haphazard inquiry

[Crimson]

Mobi's the shit

[zhianosatch]

since when is king crimson metal?!
dillinger escape plan, huh... haha. ahhh, come to california. we'll show you the way of excellent medium- to hard-core metal, all genres.

[Mobius]

Been there, done that - California is so NU it may as well rename itself Kornifornia - san diego was the shit though.

And first wave crimson (69-74) is heavier than any band with double kick and a harmonizer pedal

Come to Australia, we'll teach you about beer-rock \m/

oh...and keith is the shit

....but he has a weak stomoch

[Sean Gallemore]

And first wave crimson (69-74) is heavier than any band with double kick and a harmonizer pedal

wtf  

[Mobius]

And first wave crimson (69-74) is heavier than any band with double kick and a harmonizer pedal

wtf  

WTF OMG LMFAO LOL!1!1!@@ ok Lnk plz K thnx!1!1

[Crimson]

oh...and keith is the shit

....but he has a weak stomoch

Bitch, don't start!  Let it be known for the record that after 12 hours of beer drinking, this aussie upstart named Mobius passed out repeatedly in the wee hours of the morning (finally collapsing on a keyboard amidst Toolarmy chatroom ramblings I believe), while Crimson stood triumphant in the kitchen refilling his glass of brew and wondering aloud "what happened to Nick?"

the end

[Mobius]

And Yae, light was braught unto the morning, and whenst gabe tried to do something to the sleeping mobius, he awoke, and Lo, he found on his arisal, to find crimson - bellogwing for an alka-seltza, for woe, crimmy had a woo woo in his tummy wumm, and no bagels could make it better.

I am the Way and the Light and the Awesomenessmad that flows through thee

Amen, Crimsy is oh so sexy, but  still cant handle his liqour - but while we're at it:




hey, what about my idea about the home made a/d goddamnit!

[zhianosatch]

Been there, done that - California is so NU it may as well rename itself Kornifornia - san diego was the shit though.

gaaaaaaah fuck that "nu" whatever-the-fuck excuse for music, i mean real music, m-love!

And first wave crimson (69-74) is heavier than any band with double kick and a harmonizer pedal

haha
i love it, but it ain't metal! schwilly can show you the ridiculous classification system

[Sean Gallemore]

ok, i might posissibly ponder the consideration of thinking about kinda sorta maybe calling it progressive metal, but even other prog metal bands (which in my mind isn't a true genre but rather an elite way to define a metal band that has talent) like dream theater aren't really that metalish.