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Re: Extreme Bass
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2017, 11:54:08 PM »
This is a newer version than mine but go into the part that looks like a graph. 

Click a few points on the line then start pulling the left (lowest frequency) side of the line down.  You can essentially set differential levels of reduction by manipulating the line.  You can carve out very precise frequencies with large numbers of points or set a gentle curve or a curve that varies greatly from point to point. 

The left to right axis is low to high frequency (the scale is in Hz).  The top to bottom axis is relative level (the scale is in dB). 

There are also some presets that may give some idea of basic approaches. 

If you look at a frequency graph of the raw recording you may see what the initial landscape is and where you need to deemphasize. 

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Re: Extreme Bass
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2017, 03:03:08 PM »
Multi band compressor
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Re: Extreme Bass
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2017, 10:59:42 AM »
Went with the MB Compresor and am happy enough with the results.  It was a tough one to do anything with really, so at lieast it is listenable.  Thanks for the tips everyone!
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Re: Extreme Bass
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2017, 11:27:23 AM »
Cool.  How many bands and what crossover points between them?

As mentioned, using a multiband compressor you are basically dynamically EQing using an EQ with the same number of bands as the compressor.  Since most multiband compressors typically use 3 to 5 bands, that's essentially like a 3 or 5 band EQ, but with the gain of each band dynamically controlled.

The Voxengo Soniformer is an interesting and unique tool I use which is essentially an extreme multi-band compressor which splits the frequency spectrum into 32 bands and controls each separately before recombining them.  With so many bands, it uses a different curve based interface to keep settings under control, essentially helping one to use smoother EQ compression curves across all bands even through each band is acting in isolation, limiting settings with greatly varying (and often more problematic dissonant) band to band differences.  I find it very useful for problematic live recordings, and also for subtle low-level detail enhancement similar to parallel-compression, but it does takes a bit of time to get familiar with and figure out the interface- http://www.voxengo.com/product/soniformer/
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Re: Extreme Bass
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2017, 05:36:13 PM »
I used the iZotooe MB Compressor in Audition CS6.  Not sure about crossover points but you are able to slide the the bands wider and narrower and check individual solos etc and then export what you like.  Pretty cool features actually.  There were 4 sections that you could manipulate if I remember correctly.
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Re: Extreme Bass
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2017, 10:42:14 PM »
Multi band compressor

I have usually used WaveLab's MultiBand Compressor as well the last 10-15 years to remove extreme lowend or highend! Works good enough for me and can really transform a bad recording, to something totally listenable IMO!

I'm sure there might be better ways to do that with filters or EQ, but the MBC in WL6 does a great job for me, and usually helps me quickly dial in what sounds best, since WL has REAL-TIME editing :)

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Re: Extreme Bass
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2017, 11:56:00 PM »
I use High Pass
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