Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!

Author Topic: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"  (Read 2810 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline down2earthlandscaper

  • Gear Slut/Hoarder and Multiple-Rig Maniac
  • Site Supporter
  • (29)
  • Taperssection Member
  • *
  • Posts: 868
  • Gender: Male
I'm working on this Mark Knopfler recording, I've gotten it to sound pretty nice, but there is a piercing and unacceptable WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! that lasts literally OVER FIVE FULL SECONDS right as Mark is getting into the lyrics on "Sultans of Swing"  This idiot was probably 6 feet to my left. UGH!
Usually if the random exclamations from the crowd aren't too bad or are fairly brief, I will just zoom in on the waveform so I can see where it begins and ends and I'll just decrease the level and its usually not too noticeable, but this was so prolonged that I can't use that method... It's truly horrible.
I'd almost rather completely cut the 5+ seconds out and deal with that skip in the song rather than listen to this dude.
But I imagine that there is some tool to deal with stuff like this? I sure it's been covered before, but if anyone can point me to the right topic thread or point me in the right direction (I'm using Adobe Audition) I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
Nakamichi CM300's (CP-1,2,3,4) Nakamichi CM700's (cards, omnis)
Tascam PE-120's (cards, omnis) Peluso CEMC-6 (cards and subcards)
DPA 4061's DPA 4022's; AKG 480 ck61 and ck63; Naiant AKG Active Cables
Preamps: CA-9100; Naiant Tinybox (12v/48v + PIP 8V); Naiant Littlebox;
DPA MPS6030; Sound Device Mix Pre-D
Decks: Mixpre 10T and 6; Roland R-07; Marantz PMD620; Sony PCM M10; Edirol R-4; Zoom H6; Marantz PMD-661; Sound Devices 722

Offline nulldogmas

  • (6)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1132
    • How I Escaped My Uncertain Fate
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2018, 07:46:38 AM »
Is he significantly louder in one channel than the other?

Offline Datfly

  • (10)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 298
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2018, 10:24:34 AM »
The only thing I have found to really help on that is spectral repair in RX 6 Audio Editor.
Schoeps MK41's
Pre-Amps: Naiant Tinybox 2.2 o/t 
Cables: Nbob Actives V1
Recorders: Zoom H6 X 2 & Tascam DR-2d x 2
Panasonic ZS100 4K X 3
Sony AX100 4K | Sony NX80 4K | Sony AX700 4K  X 2 Camcorders
Canon 5D MK III
Canon 300 2.8 IS II | Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II | Canon 24-70 2.8 II | Canon 16-35 4.0

Offline Gordon

  • (22)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 11480
  • Gender: Male
    • my list
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2018, 10:34:18 AM »
The only thing I have found to really help on that is spectral repair in RX 6 Audio Editor.

yep!  but be careful with it!
Microtech Gefell M20 or M21 > Nbob actives > Naiant PFA > Sound Devices MixPre-6 II

https://archive.org/details/fav-gordonlw

Offline goodcooker

  • (38)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3596
  • Gender: Male
  • goes to 11
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2018, 10:38:43 AM »
Clearly you should have dealt with this earlier by beating him mercilessly with a can of soda in a pillowcase..

Agreed on copying over the opposite channel then reduce the volume to lower the impact. Also you can use the Spectral Analysis tool in many DAWs to identify the frequency range of the WHOOO and reduce only those frequencies to lessen the impact on that short section.

Don't overthink it too much. It's just 5 seconds out of a long show.
MBHO KA300 || Joly Mod Oktava MK012 || NakCM300 || ADK A51 > Sound Devices 442 || Reference Audio Designs MS2 > Tascam DR701 || Marantz PMD620 || Tascam DR680
Transfers - Tascam DA30 or Fostex D5 (dats) or Nak MR2 (cassettes) > Sound Devices USB Pre

http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/goodcooker

"Are you the Zman?" - fan at Panic 10-08-10 Kansas City
"I don't know who left this perfectly good inflatable wook doll here, but if I'm blowing her up, I'm keeping her." -  hoppedup

Offline rigpimp

  • (14)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 2514
  • Gender: Male
  • Jarts don't kill people!
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2018, 11:25:00 AM »
Two things work for me:

1) A joint of the real deal Northern Lights #5 x Haze, or the more preferred,
2) Lasso tool in iZotope RX5 Advanced.

The first sends them into the corner to try and peel their face off, the second can actually reduce/remove in post.
Mics: Schoeps MK5 G MP, Schoeps CCM 4 Lg MP, Schoeps MK8 MP, nBob cables > PFA, KCY 250/5 > PFA
Pre/A>D/P48: Sonosax SX/M2-LS, E.A.A. PSP-2, Naiant Tinybox, Neumann BS48i-2 (for sale)
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre-6, Sony PCM-M10
Playback: McIntosh MC 2105 > McIntosh MX 130 > Von Schweikert VR-4 JR
http://archive.org/bookmarks/kskreider
https://archive.org/details/thespps

Offline dactylus

  • Site Supporter
  • (56)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *
  • Posts: 5545
  • Gender: Male
  • Maplewood, MN
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2018, 02:12:05 PM »
Clearly you should have dealt with this earlier by beating him mercilessly with a can of soda in a pillowcase..


^ This!!
hot licks > microphones > recorder



...ball of confusion, that's what the world is today, hey hey...

Offline down2earthlandscaper

  • Gear Slut/Hoarder and Multiple-Rig Maniac
  • Site Supporter
  • (29)
  • Taperssection Member
  • *
  • Posts: 868
  • Gender: Male
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2018, 05:17:48 AM »
Is he significantly louder in one channel than the other?

Yes. Left channel is really loud
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
Nakamichi CM300's (CP-1,2,3,4) Nakamichi CM700's (cards, omnis)
Tascam PE-120's (cards, omnis) Peluso CEMC-6 (cards and subcards)
DPA 4061's DPA 4022's; AKG 480 ck61 and ck63; Naiant AKG Active Cables
Preamps: CA-9100; Naiant Tinybox (12v/48v + PIP 8V); Naiant Littlebox;
DPA MPS6030; Sound Device Mix Pre-D
Decks: Mixpre 10T and 6; Roland R-07; Marantz PMD620; Sony PCM M10; Edirol R-4; Zoom H6; Marantz PMD-661; Sound Devices 722

Offline down2earthlandscaper

  • Gear Slut/Hoarder and Multiple-Rig Maniac
  • Site Supporter
  • (29)
  • Taperssection Member
  • *
  • Posts: 868
  • Gender: Male
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2018, 05:19:40 AM »
I forgot to turn on notifications.Some of these answers are hilarious  ;D :coolguy: :cheers:
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
Nakamichi CM300's (CP-1,2,3,4) Nakamichi CM700's (cards, omnis)
Tascam PE-120's (cards, omnis) Peluso CEMC-6 (cards and subcards)
DPA 4061's DPA 4022's; AKG 480 ck61 and ck63; Naiant AKG Active Cables
Preamps: CA-9100; Naiant Tinybox (12v/48v + PIP 8V); Naiant Littlebox;
DPA MPS6030; Sound Device Mix Pre-D
Decks: Mixpre 10T and 6; Roland R-07; Marantz PMD620; Sony PCM M10; Edirol R-4; Zoom H6; Marantz PMD-661; Sound Devices 722

Offline swordfish

  • (3)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 348
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2018, 04:16:43 AM »
Clearly you should have dealt with this earlier by beating him mercilessly with a can of soda in a pillowcase..

Agreed on copying over the opposite channel then reduce the volume to lower the impact. Also you can use the Spectral Analysis tool in many DAWs to identify the frequency range of the WHOOO and reduce only those frequencies to lessen the impact on that short section.

Don't overthink it too much. It's just 5 seconds out of a long show.
+1

use the spectral analyzer in addobe aution > tools > healing brush ---> the whoooo will have a different colour ---> I use that for feedback with good reults

Offline nulldogmas

  • (6)
  • Taperssection All-Star
  • ****
  • Posts: 1132
    • How I Escaped My Uncertain Fate
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2018, 06:55:56 AM »
Is he significantly louder in one channel than the other?

Yes. Left channel is really loud

You could also try adjusting the channel levels so that the whoooooo is even on both sides (with the music much louder then on the right), then subtracting the left channel from the right channel, and ... this probably won't work at all, but if it were me I'd probably try it anyway just to see what happens.

Offline rigpimp

  • (14)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 2514
  • Gender: Male
  • Jarts don't kill people!
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2018, 10:17:30 PM »
Yah, let some take a whack at RX spectral repair.  The latest version has more powerful tools than ever. 

I've said it here many times but it deserves to be repeated.  There is a special place in heaven for the engineers that work for iZotope.
Mics: Schoeps MK5 G MP, Schoeps CCM 4 Lg MP, Schoeps MK8 MP, nBob cables > PFA, KCY 250/5 > PFA
Pre/A>D/P48: Sonosax SX/M2-LS, E.A.A. PSP-2, Naiant Tinybox, Neumann BS48i-2 (for sale)
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre-6, Sony PCM-M10
Playback: McIntosh MC 2105 > McIntosh MX 130 > Von Schweikert VR-4 JR
http://archive.org/bookmarks/kskreider
https://archive.org/details/thespps

Offline djphrayz

  • (5)
  • Taperssection Regular
  • **
  • Posts: 155
  • Gender: Male
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2018, 12:09:59 AM »
There is a special place in heaven for the engineers that work for iZotope.


+T
Mics: AT4031, CA-14 cards and omnis
Recorders: Tascam DR-40, Zoom H6, Sony PCM-M10
Pre: CA Ugly 2

Offline Gutbucket

  • record > listen > revise technique
  • (15)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 14226
  • Gender: Male
  • Gunther Theile nailed it!
Re: How can I remove an atrocious "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2018, 09:09:27 AM »
Just a reminder- iZotope RX is great, the big player, and the obvious one to recommend, but there are also other spectral editors which work this kind of magic similarly well.
musical volition > vibrations > voltages > numeric values > voltages > vibrations> virtual teleportation time-machine experience
Better recording made easy - >>Improved PAS table<< | Made excellent- >>click here to download the Oddball Microphone Technique illustrated PDF booklet<< (note: This is a 1st draft, now several years old and in need of revision!  Stay tuned)

 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.057 seconds with 37 queries.
© 2002-2021 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF