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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2020, 11:55:57 AM »
Is there a good list of default settings for the average concert recording with 2 mics and a board patch?

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2020, 01:31:15 PM »
I have recorded a show with only two ISO's. How can i listen back to this throught the headphone out. :shrug:
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2020, 01:54:33 PM »
I have recorded a show with only two ISO's. How can i listen back to this throught the headphone out. :shrug:

Solo those tracks.
Recording:
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2020, 02:18:56 PM »
I have recorded a show with only two ISO's. How can i listen back to this throught the headphone out. :shrug:

Solo those tracks.

Thanks, it is that simple  :D
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2020, 10:44:56 PM »
Does anyone know if SD plans to add 32bit float capability to Wave Agent?

I *can* manipulate these tracts in Reaper as is, but my workflow would be so simplified by this update to Wave Agent.

This, more than anything is preventing me from upgrading.

For R&R, I suspect not much would change for me.

But for a chamber music gig....
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2020, 12:28:31 AM »
not sure that this is helpful but i archive my polywave files by stitching the short files together in soundforge and then saving the polywave as a single .w64 file

resulting files at 32/96 are ~10GB but its quick and dirty
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2020, 10:57:37 AM »
As it stands, I can now load and split polywaves in reaper, but loading them one by one, splitting them, rendering each pair, then combining the files into a single file per set/show, then reloading into reaper to normalize, etc, is just so many steps,

especially when trying to beat Chris King on getting my upload up etree.....  :smash: :shrug:
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2020, 03:04:48 PM »
If all of your sources have the same starting point it’s fairly easy to track it once im cdwav, save the cue sheet, and apply the cue sheet to the subsequent versions of different source/sample rate/ bitrate. It saves both split points and any special filenames in the cue sheet
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2020, 08:47:19 PM »
Anker PowerCore 10000 PD on sale at Amazon for $28.79

My go to battery for running my MP-6. I get 6.1 hours recording 2-mk41's + sbd,  recharges in 9ish hours.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2020, 01:45:48 PM »
FYI, we added the SanDisk Extreme 150MB/s 64GB SD card to our approved media list. Cost effective and widely available.

https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre-series-approved-media-list/

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2020, 08:46:11 PM »
Just updated to current 6.00 firmware from 2.21 anyone running the most current firmware without issue?  TIA
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2020, 09:18:29 PM »
Just updated to current 6.00 firmware from 2.21 anyone running the most current firmware without issue?  TIA
I was advised by a SD technician to use the most current firmware to avoid the problems I had with the SD branded cards using 2.21


I upgraded, but have not tested it.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2020, 11:29:06 PM »
I'm still on the original v4 that came with my II series. If it ain't broke...
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2020, 09:06:00 PM »
I upgraded, but have not tested it.

I still have not recorded with it, but I am presently using the Mixpre-6 with firmware V6.00 as a USB audio interface (output) for my computer.

Pretty interesting using the digital input on the SD, and also cool to have meters on my sound interface! My Saffire has none, the MotU 828 has them, but is too big to sit within my visual field, and besides it hums when it's powered up. (signal is clean but box is noisy)

Does anyone else use theirs as a USB sound interface? I would be glad to hear hot tips!

Like turn off the limiter, I think I like it without, since it's monitoring a digital source now.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2020, 10:36:10 PM »

Pretty interesting using the digital input on the SD, and also cool to have meters on my sound interface! My Saffire has none, the MotU 828 has them, but is too big to sit within my visual field, and besides it hums when it's powered up. (signal is clean but box is noisy)

Does anyone else use theirs as a USB sound interface? I would be glad to hear hot tips! [/font]


Can you feed a USB signal from a device like the SONOSAX SX M2D2 into the MixPre II now??  How, what settings?

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2020, 12:35:42 AM »
Can you feed a USB signal from a device like the SONOSAX SX M2D2 into the MixPre II now??  How, what settings?
Get a cable and plug it in!
I've got my inputs set so that I can record the USB input directly onto 5-6 by hitting the Record button, but I turned that off to see what's up, and it still played audio through the l-r outputs and headphones from the computer via USB.
*I think that's because I've got those set for it. I messed with it for a while to get it working the way I wanted.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2020, 01:23:18 AM »
Can you feed a USB signal from a device like the SONOSAX SX M2D2 into the MixPre II now??  How, what settings?

You can record pretty much any audio that is played on the computer or fed into it from another audio source. No matter how it is fed in, line, USB, Thunderbolt, Firewire et al.
As long as it's an identifiable Audio I/O or can make a sound some how.

If you want to route audio in more complex ways on macOS - like the outdated Sound Flower driver offered - I can recommend BlackHole as the most up to date virtual driver.

https://github.com/ExistentialAudio/BlackHole

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2020, 01:24:19 AM »
Does it jam to the USB digital signal, or resample?


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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2020, 02:05:23 AM »
Does it jam to the USB digital signal, or resample?

You can select bit and sample rate and which source to act the clock.
Depends on the Mac but I believe most does hardware rate conversion.

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/audio-midi-setup/ams59f301fda/mac

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2020, 02:19:38 AM »
There is no "Mac" involved.  I want to go from a Sonosax SX M2D2 via its USB out, into a MixPre II 6.  I have configured channels 5 and 6 on the MixPre to receive this stereo input, and also want to input analog signal from mics into channels 1-4.  Will tracks 1-4 clock correctly to the Sonosax or will the MixPre resample the digital input?  My old Sonosax 8-track MiniR82 would clock the analog inputs to digital inputs 5-6 (but not digital inputs 7-8).   Any idea what happens here??

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2020, 04:04:45 AM »
There is no "Mac" involved.  I want to go from a Sonosax SX M2D2 via its USB out, into a MixPre II 6.  I have configured channels 5 and 6 on the MixPre to receive this stereo input, and also want to input analog signal from mics into channels 1-4.  Will tracks 1-4 clock correctly to the Sonosax or will the MixPre resample the digital input?  My old Sonosax 8-track MiniR82 would clock the analog inputs to digital inputs 5-6 (but not digital inputs 7-8).   Any idea what happens here??

The MixPre acts as a USB Device only.
Unless the Sonosax can act as a USB Host which I doubt, two USB Devices can not communicate with each other.

You need a USB Host to which you can connect both the Sonosax and the Mixpre over USB - then you would be able to route USB audio in/Out as you like.
Perhaps a RPi could manage this as long as everything is device compliant so you don't need to mess around with drivers.
But I've never done it that way.

I've ran my Mixpre as an audio I/O to my Macs and my iPhones.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2020, 09:53:09 AM »
You can record pretty much any audio that is played on the computer or fed into it from another audio source. No matter how it is fed in, line, USB, Thunderbolt, Firewire et al.


Could you run a DAT machine digital out into a Mac and archive your DAT tapes digitally into the MixPre 3-6-10?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2020, 11:57:04 AM »
I want to go from a Sonosax SX M2D2 via its USB out, into a MixPre II 6.

You won't be able to do this.
Recording:
Capsules: Schoeps mk41v (x2), mk22 (x2), mk3 (x2), mk21 & mk8
Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, GAKables 10' & 20' 6-channel snakes, Darktrain 2 & 4 channel KCY and mini xlr extensions:
Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre6 I, Sony PCM m10

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2020, 12:35:09 PM »
You can record pretty much any audio that is played on the computer or fed into it from another audio source. No matter how it is fed in, line, USB, Thunderbolt, Firewire et al.


Could you run a DAT machine digital out into a Mac and archive your DAT tapes digitally into the MixPre 3-6-10?

If both the Mac and dat have optical/electrical spdif it should work.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2020, 01:58:19 PM »
You can record pretty much any audio that is played on the computer or fed into it from another audio source. No matter how it is fed in, line, USB, Thunderbolt, Firewire et al.


Could you run a DAT machine digital out into a Mac and archive your DAT tapes digitally into the MixPre 3-6-10?

If both the Mac and dat have optical/electrical spdif it should work.
My HHB Portadat is on vacation in the basement. If I get some time over I’ll do a test this weekend.

Thanks.

I have a DAT machine lazing about. I should give it a try as well.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2020, 03:28:24 PM »
Could you run a DAT machine digital out into a Mac and archive your DAT tapes digitally into the MixPre 3-6-10?
Yes, but why bother with the extra step/device, when you could capture the digital feed in digital audio workstation (DAW) software and save it directly to your drive?


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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2020, 04:21:35 PM »
Could you run a DAT machine digital out into a Mac and archive your DAT tapes digitally into the MixPre 3-6-10?
Yes, but why bother with the extra step/device, when you could capture the digital feed in digital audio workstation (DAW) software and save it directly to your drive?


True enough. But in this scenario you end up with wav files on an SD card at the push of a record button which appeals to me over working in a DAW.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2020, 09:36:58 PM »
True enough. But in this scenario you end up with wav files on an SD card at the push of a record button which appeals to me over working in a DAW.
Oh! If that's the goal, then by all means, proceed! Sounds like a great way to go about it.

But the reason I'm really back on THIS thread is to ask MixPre users if they can help with this bit about using the device on USB:

I wish I could control Stereo Output gain with the scroller knob (headphone knob) while viewing levels. I'd use the headphone out but that is RIGHT next to the dang knob!
I'd settle for controlling a linked pair with a single front panel knob.
Just nice to have a physical volume control handy in case of insane dynamics or perhaps a phone call. I can always go turn down the stereo...

Edit- figured out how to do this!
MixPre3 or 6 with V6.00 firmware - directions to set up as a handy USB audio interface for a computer.
Plug in MixPre to computer via USB-C port on recorder. Plug other end of compatible cable into your host computer.
 *Note* If your host machine is not able to provide sufficient power via USB-C, you will not be able to use a remote keyboard on the mixpre, or run more than 2 channels of Kashmir preamp. The power indicator will be amber, not green. Other functions mostly work the same, in my brief experience.
Click Hamburger icon, page to P3 > System, set Mode to Advanced, set USB-C to Audio, set USB Audio to Normal (optional: on page 2, set up bluetooth, if you want remote monitoring for your fancy new sound interface!
Channel 1-2 - push the input knob, (touchscreen to page 2!) set Linking 1-2, Set input on those channels to USB 1 left, and USB 2 right.
Now set Outputs > Stereo Gain to 0, Stereo Out Left is set to Chan 1, Stereo Out Right is set to Chan 2


At this point, main output level for the mini jack is set to the output from Channels 1-2, which get their input from the USB 1-2.
Main level is set on Channel one, balance on channel two (set it to the middle for most things!)
[I suspect I could use the mix bus, but I might be doing so now. Still new at this)
Touch the meters in the bottom to make it toggle through displaying sample rate and bit depth, time and date, Headphone info
Touch the meters in the middle to make it toggle through displaying your L-R main bus & USB input, L-R main bus with large bars, L-R main bus & Active channels
move the knob for input 1, and the display top left will jump to its current level setting as you move it.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2020, 10:12:58 PM »
I hate to be the only one posting, but I just noticed a couple things about WINGMAN software on my phone.
You can swipe sideways and get totally different looking meters.
After you do that you can swipe up and change if you're monitoring input or output, I think is what I'm seeing.

Furthermore- the initial screen also lets you swipe up or down to change modes!
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2020, 10:28:28 PM »
Could you run a DAT machine digital out into a Mac and archive your DAT tapes digitally into the MixPre 3-6-10?
Yes, but why bother with the extra step/device, when you could capture the digital feed in digital audio workstation (DAW) software and save it directly to your drive?


True enough. But in this scenario you end up with wav files on an SD card at the push of a record button which appeals to me over working in a DAW.

how is that different than ending up with wav files on an HD? youre jsut using the wave editor app to record.

also unless you have a third party soundcard, mac onboard digital in resamples data, so that in and of itself is inferior to the numerous cheap 2-channel recorders with digital in
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2020, 12:05:25 AM »
also unless you have a third party soundcard, mac onboard digital in resamples data, so that in and of itself is inferior to the numerous cheap 2-channel recorders with digital in
That makes sense, I have to choose sample rate & bit depth from the Mac Audio MIDI setup program.
It doesn't let me choose a source to Lock on, and it doesn't switch when I play something at a different rate (for instance, if I choose 48K, and play a CD, the MixPre still says 48.)


Another thing I just found out about is that Mac OS now lets you make "Aggregate devices" and will sync several different sound interface options.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202000

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2020, 12:11:00 AM »
also unless you have a third party soundcard, mac onboard digital in resamples data, so that in and of itself is inferior to the numerous cheap 2-channel recorders with digital in
That makes sense, I have to choose sample rate & bit depth from the Mac Audio MIDI setup program.

easy to test

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2020, 07:09:42 AM »
Could you run a DAT machine digital out into a Mac and archive your DAT tapes digitally into the MixPre 3-6-10?
Yes, but why bother with the extra step/device, when you could capture the digital feed in digital audio workstation (DAW) software and save it directly to your drive?


True enough. But in this scenario you end up with wav files on an SD card at the push of a record button which appeals to me over working in a DAW.

how is that different than ending up with wav files on an HD? youre just using the wave editor app to record.

also unless you have a third party soundcard, mac onboard digital in resamples data, so that in and of itself is inferior to the numerous cheap 2-channel recorders with digital in

Yes, of course I would use a recorder with digital in — I have many — but you’re missing the context of my remarks which was an earlier discussion of being able to go digital in into the MixPre units (which don’t have dig I/O) through a computer. I remembered someone suggesting that a forum member not buy a MixPre until they had archived their DATs with the dig in of their 744T. So it now seems possible to do that digitally with a MixPre.

As for “just using the wave editor app to record”, that’s my point: I prefer a workflow of pushing transport buttons over clicking a mouse. That’s just me. It’s no big deal.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2020, 03:41:58 PM »
I know it's not the usual use here, but is anyone using one of these with the musician's plugin to multitrack. Just wondering how well it works--especially wondering about workflow for recording yourself. Is it easy or are you always having to fiddle around with the touchscreen and knobs to get to the next track etc.? I have a setup with an Apogee One, iPad, and Auria--but one device sounds attractive.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2020, 03:06:33 PM »
I am having trouble with routing channels 5&6 to headphones when doing onboard playback. For example, I can set up preset one as 5&6 only and there's no output, but when I "solo" those channels on their respective channel screens, they work. Any ideas?

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2020, 11:46:52 PM »
I am having trouble with routing channels 5&6 to headphones when doing onboard playback. For example, I can set up preset one as 5&6 only and there's no output, but when I "solo" those channels on their respective channel screens, they work. Any ideas?
Have not dug in lately on headphone mixing...  but are they "post fader" so you'd have to turn up the level on 5-6 (using the knob?) There is an option for pre or post.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2020, 11:07:09 AM »
New firmware (v. 7) has been released...

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2020, 11:18:09 AM »
Interesting: They are adding features from the high end series. It was Mix Assist, now Noise Assist (althought the latter only for the II Series, which seem to be a much more powerful processor).

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2020, 03:13:55 PM »
Interesting: They are adding features from the high end series. It was Mix Assist, now Noise Assist (althought the latter only for the II Series, which seem to be a much more powerful processor).
oh, joy, a $300 plugin.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2020, 07:52:50 AM »
Interesting: They are adding features from the high end series. It was Mix Assist, now Noise Assist (althought the latter only for the II Series, which seem to be a much more powerful processor).
oh, joy, a $300 plugin.
Thanks, I'll deal with it in post. Lucky for me I don't depend on my Mix Outs #ILoveISOs

$300 seems crazy expensive, but that is HALF THE COST of what I'm being charged for NoiseAssist for my 833

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2020, 03:34:18 PM »
$300 seems crazy expensive, but that is HALF THE COST of what I'm being charged for NoiseAssist for my 833
I'm sure it's fair for what it does, I just don't need that.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2020, 05:38:39 PM »
I joined the team and picked up a hardly used mp6. Read through all 6 previous threads and got this setup pretty easily. Upgraded to firmware 7 and ran a couple tests so far with different battery options. I found using two 8800mAh L-series batteries I was able to record just over 16 hours before they died. Kind of wish the sled was for a single battery facing backwards as it's kind of awkward to fit into a gear bag with two on the sled. Will probably pick up a usb c battery pack. Are there any differences between the Anker and RavPower power banks?

Have it setup in custom mode, has anyone noticed that when you link two channels, the second control knob becomes a balance control? I am unsure where to really place it - or if it is even relevant if I am not recording to Mix L R.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2020, 05:53:37 PM »
Have it setup in custom mode, has anyone noticed that when you link two channels, the second control knob becomes a balance control? I am unsure where to really place it - or if it is even relevant if I am not recording to Mix L R.

yes, i love this feature.  used to have to turn one knob down with one hand and simultaneously turn a second knob up with my other hand to try and make it seamless. 

now that they're linked, the one balance knob is nice to have if you're in a strange spot and one channel is running more hot than the other. 

Although, with the II, in 32bit, i don't think it will matter much/at all.  i plan to pretty much just set up the mics and hit record in 32bit.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2020, 10:10:36 AM »
I leave balance on C "center" and fix in post if off a bit.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2020, 10:21:21 AM »
What am I missing staying on early firmware. Don't recall the version number, but it's just before the pre-roll feature.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2020, 01:34:54 PM »
What am I missing staying on early firmware. Don't recall the version number, but it's just before the pre-roll feature.
they may have fixed the bug where my machine crashed a couple times with 3.01?

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2020, 09:05:34 PM »
What am I missing staying on early firmware. Don't recall the version number, but it's just before the pre-roll feature.

I'm on 6.0 and preroll doesn't seem to work for me.  :shrug
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2020, 08:59:18 AM »
Try backing down a to the previous firmware! 

What am I missing staying on early firmware. Don't recall the version number, but it's just before the pre-roll feature.

I'm on 6.0 and preroll doesn't seem to work for me.  :shrug
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2020, 09:20:04 AM »
I leave balance on C "center" and fix in post if off a bit.

The balance affects only the mix tracks and not the ISO’s.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2020, 12:27:19 PM »
I leave balance on C "center" and fix in post if off a bit.

The balance affects only the mix tracks and not the ISO’s.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2020, 01:32:07 PM »
Not on my deck!

I leave balance on C "center" and fix in post if off a bit.

The balance affects only the mix tracks and not the ISO’s.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2020, 01:58:38 PM »
not on mine either running Custom Mode with Gain set to Basic

Not on my deck!

I leave balance on C "center" and fix in post if off a bit.

The balance affects only the mix tracks and not the ISO’s.


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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2020, 02:44:38 PM »
Same here. I turn the mix tracks off.
not on mine either running Custom Mode with Gain set to Basic

Not on my deck!

I leave balance on C "center" and fix in post if off a bit.

The balance affects only the mix tracks and not the ISO’s.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2020, 01:59:03 AM »
You guys are correct that it does alter the ISO tracks when paired.

I am in Custom Mode > Gain Basic

Tried also with Gain Advanced and really don't see a difference in knob function, but it does add a Gain level in the menu when you push on an input knob which you cannot put below 6 dB. Will need to play around and see what exactly it is adjusting.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2020, 12:09:57 PM »
^ With gain set to basic, both the pre-amp and digital gain are combined and controlled with the front panel knob. With advanced, the pre-amp gain is controlled by the menu/encoder knob and the front panel knob controls the digital gain applied to the mix.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2020, 11:39:10 PM »
^ With gain set to basic, both the pre-amp and digital gain are combined and controlled with the front panel knob. With advanced, the pre-amp gain is controlled by the menu/encoder knob and the front panel knob controls the digital gain applied to the mix.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2020, 12:27:35 PM »
Firmware 7.10 is out with front panels locks!

New

Introducing front panel locks. Press channel knobs 1, 2, and 3 to enter the new Front Panel menu. Lock transport controls, touchscreen, channel knobs, and/or the headphone knob to avoid accidental changes or when you are leaving your MixPre unattended.
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Change

Holding down a key on a USB keyboard for >0.5s now repeats the command. This improves usability of keyboards for setting gain and other functions.

Fixed

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2020, 02:19:04 PM »
Firmware 7.10 is out with front panels locks!
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2020, 02:24:31 PM »
Firmware 7.10 is out with front panels locks!
hells yeahs
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2020, 02:58:41 PM »
Updated my firmware and the front panel locks are a neat feature that I am sure I will use in the future.

Now only if there is a way to control the gain from the Wingman app...
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2020, 06:43:01 PM »
Updating from v7.0 only required a single reboot.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #63 on: July 30, 2020, 09:13:56 AM »
Updated my firmware and the front panel locks are a neat feature that I am sure I will use in the future.

Now only if there is a way to control the gain from the Wingman app...

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Gain is not yet controllable using the Wingman app but this is an interesting development nonetheless...

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #64 on: July 31, 2020, 05:50:23 PM »
Ran into my first glitch today on the new firmware. I am using the mp6 to transfer old minidiscs to my mac using usb C (no 3.5mm audio input on the mac). Took a minute to configure the 1 & 2 inputs to USB outs and that is working just fine. While doing the first transfer I figured I should save the settings to a preset on the SD card. I navigated to the preset menu, named it, and when I hit 'ok' to save, the mp6 went into this loud feedback loop that required me to turn off the unit to remedy. I reloaded the preset when power was back on and everything is working perfectly.

Worth noting, I am not recording to the mp6, just using it as a passthrough device. The only thing the device is doing is monitoring levels.

*I think what I did was save a preset with the same name and it did not like that. Forgot I had already saved one.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2020, 06:50:46 PM »
Just curious, did you reformat the SD card in the MixPre after upgrading the firmware before saving the preset to the card?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #66 on: August 08, 2020, 07:11:13 AM »
Just curious, did you reformat the SD card in the MixPre after upgrading the firmware before saving the preset to the card?

I’m curious about this.

How do I save my settings to the SD card?

I assume the firmware update will reset my settings?

What’s the best way to update while retaining settings?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #67 on: August 10, 2020, 09:26:18 AM »
updating firmware will not change the settings but it's a good idea to revert to default and reconfigure after an upgrade.  if you save presets on the mp (default) then they remain after loading factory defaults.  That is if restored to default via presets.  If they are saved to SD then simply copy somewhere before formatting.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #68 on: August 10, 2020, 11:19:13 AM »
From Paul Isaacs regarding an earlier update which likely applies to all updates moving forward...

"Guys - v3.00 has been in QA for many many weeks and passed intensive testing. It is highly recommended that after you update to new firmware, you load factory defaults, then reformat your SD card in the MixPre, then rebuild any presets. A machine can literally have millions of possible setting states. So starting from a clean factory default state/preset often clears up things after a major firmware update. If this doesn't help, then please contact our tech support who will help you resolve issue. Thx"

Edit to add info regarding a reset because it appears you can’t just delete old presets...

You can restore the whole unit to factory state by holding down the headphone encoder and CH1 fader while booting the unit. Note that this will reset everything.

On the next power up after doing the reset the recorder performed a reboot.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #69 on: August 10, 2020, 11:44:00 AM »
Wondering how SD resolve the issue of panel knobs getting out of sync with levels? Eg, set gain, lock front panel, know gets turned. What happens when unlocked?

If they've addressed this issue, then front panel lock brings us a step closer to wingman gain control.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #70 on: August 10, 2020, 12:18:42 PM »
Wondering how SD resolve the issue of panel knobs getting out of sync with levels? Eg, set gain, lock front panel, know gets turned. What happens when unlocked?
If they've addressed this issue, then front panel lock brings us a step closer to wingman gain control.
My guess is that you can only do it in a mode where the knobs don't control the levels directly.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #71 on: August 10, 2020, 12:35:04 PM »
Wondering how SD resolve the issue of panel knobs getting out of sync with levels? Eg, set gain, lock front panel, know gets turned. What happens when unlocked?
If they've addressed this issue, then front panel lock brings us a step closer to wingman gain control.
My guess is that you can only do it in a mode where the knobs don't control the levels directly.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #72 on: August 10, 2020, 01:04:35 PM »
Sorry, I'm a fucking liar. I'm grudgingly running the 6.00 because I was advised to by SD service. It's working for my current use as USB interface.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #73 on: August 11, 2020, 04:25:53 PM »
Just curious, did you reformat the SD card in the MixPre after upgrading the firmware before saving the preset to the card?

I did do a reformat, I saved the presets to a folder on my desktop to move them over.

Noticed that if I change the preset while sound in being input, I will get a similar loud ringing while the preset loads.

Will probably wipe the unit again and just reload the presets from the deck itself and save fresh files. Everything has been working fine otherwise.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #74 on: August 11, 2020, 06:23:08 PM »
Just curious, did you reformat the SD card in the MixPre after upgrading the firmware before saving the preset to the card?

I did do a reformat, I saved the presets to a folder on my desktop to move them over.

Noticed that if I change the preset while sound in being input, I will get a similar loud ringing while the preset loads.

Will probably wipe the unit again and just reload the presets from the deck itself and save fresh files. Everything has been working fine otherwise.

While doing the first transfer I figured I should save the settings to a preset on the SD card. I navigated to the preset menu, named it, and when I hit 'ok' to save"

It looks like Sound Devices recommends we perform a reset then rebuild "not reload" presets after a firmware update and reformatting cards.

[From Reply #68 Above]

It is highly recommended that after you update to new firmware, you load factory defaults, then reformat your SD card in the MixPre, then rebuild any presets.

You can restore the whole unit to factory state by holding down the headphone encoder and CH1 fader while booting the unit. Note that this will reset everything.



How do I save my settings to the SD card?

I assume the firmware update will reset my settings?

Earlier "justink" had an inquiry about saving presets to SD Card, I took the attached photos to help illustrate how that's done...
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #75 on: August 12, 2020, 11:43:52 AM »
Thank you
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DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2020, 08:26:47 PM »
So, is it safe to update to 7.1?  I don’t want to rebuild my presets if I should wait for the next one. But I do want the front panel lock.
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #77 on: August 23, 2020, 09:27:24 AM »
Updated my Mixpre-6!  The lock controls are nice, but I haven't done extensive testing to find bugs.  I assume by the next time I can see a concert that someone will ferret out any issues and they will probably have an updated firmware with fixes. Upon initial use everything seems to be working just fine.

So, is it safe to update to 7.1?  I don’t want to rebuild my presets if I should wait for the next one. But I do want the front panel lock.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2020, 02:14:04 PM »
I updated to 7.1, haven't really done any bug testing but haven't encountered any in use either.  Thanks to COVID have only been doing some stereo ambience nature recording and have shifted more into dialog/conversational recording along with utilizing the MixPre-6 as a computer streaming interface use for with Zoom meetings etc.  Picked up some DPA mics to better fit these current recording applications as it'll probably be a while before resuming live music recording.   
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #79 on: September 06, 2020, 05:15:36 PM »
can someone clarify something for me?

MixPre10 II:

If i'm taking a mixed/main out [XLR (left/right)] from a desk, would I be fine going XLR into the MixPre (phantom off, of course), or would I need to go into the MixPre with TRS?  Does it matter?

For example, I have channels 5 & 6 linked, Armed, Line In (not mic).  Am I good going XLR out from board - > XLR into deck?  Or should I go XLR out from board - > TRS into deck?  Does it matter?
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Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #80 on: September 06, 2020, 05:34:12 PM »
I always use xlr ins, prefer a locking connector. Never had an issue w line level desk feeds via this path.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2020, 08:10:32 PM »
With some decks, like the original Zoom F-8, you have to use TRS to get line level, but with the Mixpre-x you set line or microphone level via the menus and can use with XLR or TRS
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2020, 08:29:51 PM »
I always use xlr ins, prefer a locking connector. Never had an issue w line level desk feeds via this path.

With some decks, like the original Zoom F-8, you have to use TRS to get line level, but with the Mixpre-x you set line or microphone level via the menus and can use with XLR or TRS

Thank y'all.  That's what I thought but wanted verification. 
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DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #83 on: September 07, 2020, 08:19:20 AM »
I use XLR for mics channel 1 & 2, but I like right angle 1/4 cables for SBD feeds.  They are low profile and easy to situate in the bag at any position needed. 

Edit:  These have worked well for SBD feeds and are cheap.  We also use these with our Henry patchbox.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Audio2000s-E20112-12Ft-1-4-TRS-Right-Angle-to-XLR-3pin-Female-Microphone-Cable/221392638211?hash=item338c079103:g:rgwAAOxy0x1TUByF
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2020, 05:15:01 PM »
something weird just happened.

i put AA's in and powered on.

first screen said "new firmware detected - installing"

then it said "install successful, unit will restart now"

buuuuut i never put any new firmware on the SD card and it started and finished on 6.0.

so, whaaaaaat?
Mics:
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DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #85 on: September 15, 2020, 03:23:22 PM »
Pre-roll question:

I go into the record menu and have Pre-roll set for 10 seconds. 

But when I start a recording it always starts at zero on the timer.  My R-44 would start the timer 5 seconds (or whatever the pre-roll was).

Is the pre-roll even working?  Is it still saving 10 forward seconds even though the record timer starts at zero?  i'm confused.


ANSWER:

I ran a test.  Recorded exactly 10 seconds, then pressed play and it played for 20 seconds.  So, Pre-Roll works in the background without showing on the record counter.  Good to know.
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Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #86 on: January 07, 2021, 11:09:25 AM »
SD released information about using the MixPre-II series as an audio interface for mobile and suggested that some configurations MIGHT work with the original MixPre series.
https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre-ii-series-as-audio-interfaces-for-tablets-and-phones/

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #87 on: February 01, 2021, 09:52:00 AM »
SD released information about using the MixPre-II series as an audio interface for mobile and suggested that some configurations MIGHT work with the original MixPre series.
https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre-ii-series-as-audio-interfaces-for-tablets-and-phones/

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It *does* work for the original MixPre series, at least with the model 3. I have been using it as an audio interface to run SMAART tools on an iPad Pro.

Some comments:

- Avoid using the Lightning camera adaptor. It provides very flaky power and it causes trouble like the MixPre restarting repeteadly. Unintuitively, you should always
use the USB-A port in the MixPre with a normal USB-Lightning cable for the iPhone/iPad.

- Some iOS applications support multi channel audio (these recorders are class compliant USB devices so they won't need any driver). THe MixPre can happily
accomodate both.

If the app supports multichannel audio, use System->USB Audio->Normal. If it is limited to stereo, System->USB Audio->Stereo. Pretty straightforward.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #88 on: February 01, 2021, 08:50:11 PM »
I'm out of town and away from my MixPre at the moment.  I copied the files from the USB to my laptop before leaving.

I guess I accidentally turned the unit off before it saved to the USB.  So, I didn't get the last part of the show.

But there's a chance I turned the unit off before stopping the recording.... I can't remember.  If that's the case.  Will the last part of the show be on the SD card in the deck?
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #89 on: February 01, 2021, 10:09:54 PM »
i imagine. whenever ive run out of power the last file is always there
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #90 on: February 01, 2021, 10:12:56 PM »
i imagine. whenever ive run out of power the last file is always there

Hope so.  Oops. If not, certainly a learning lesson.  I was just in such a hurry to break down and get out.

I wanted to work on the tape and upload while on the road.  Guess I have to wait a week to see if I have a full tape to work with.  🤷🏻‍♂️
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #91 on: February 06, 2021, 03:12:46 AM »
It *does* work for the original MixPre series, at least with the model 3. I have been using it as an audio interface to run SMAART tools on an iPad Pro.

Some comments:

- Avoid using the Lightning camera adaptor. It provides very flaky power and it causes trouble like the MixPre restarting repeteadly. Unintuitively, you should always
use the USB-A port in the MixPre with a normal USB-Lightning cable for the iPhone/iPad.

- Some iOS applications support multi channel audio (these recorders are class compliant USB devices so they won't need any driver). THe MixPre can happily
accomodate both.

If the app supports multichannel audio, use System->USB Audio->Normal. If it is limited to stereo, System->USB Audio->Stereo. Pretty straightforward.


These are FANTASTIC tips. Thank you.
UNINTUITIVELY is right, I assumed that the USB-A port was only for keyboards or controllers. Have tried nothing else there.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #92 on: April 01, 2021, 04:37:25 PM »
I'll be running 6 channels with my Mixpre 6-ii this Saturday for Billy Strings. Setup will be:

Ch 1&2 : AKG 568 Shotguns
Ch 3&4 : AKG 480 + ck62 omni
Ch 5&6 : AKG ck63 > baby nbox

I've never ran a mic level signal through the aux input...Is is generally regarded as acceptable or should I run channels 5&6 through my A10 instead? I can't imagine the A10 has better preamps, but you never know.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2021, 05:02:01 PM »
The MixPre aux-in has a maximum input level of +10 dBu in line mode. A quick search showed that the CK63 ULS has a sensitivity of 20 mV/Pa, so you'd need about 136 dBSPL to generate a signal of that level. I am not sure if the "ULS" is the same model as what you have, but, if it is, you should be fine. The A10's audio IN has a "rated input level of approximately 2V", so a little less than the MixPre.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #94 on: April 01, 2021, 05:19:40 PM »
Thinking about it a little more, you might consider asking noahbickart. I recall reading that he regularly use the 5/6 input and he might have some useful advice.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #95 on: April 02, 2021, 11:11:12 AM »
Thanks aaronji, I'm going to run it with the Mixpre and see how it goes.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #96 on: April 04, 2021, 06:49:45 PM »
Ok I ran the mixpre 6 for my second show and am stumped. The multitrack file plays fine in foobar with no clipping that I can tell. The ISO tracks are brickwalled (which I expected) but no matter how much I dial the gain down in izotope, it's still badly clipped. Am I doing this wrong? It worked for me nicely last time.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #97 on: April 04, 2021, 06:55:54 PM »
Ok I ran the mixpre 6 for my second show and am stumped. The multitrack file plays fine in foobar with no clipping that I can tell. The ISO tracks are brickwalled (which I expected) but no matter how much I dial the gain down in izotope, it's still badly clipped. Am I doing this wrong? It worked for me nicely last time.
so the same isos that are brickwalled play fine as a multitrack? thats odd

usually on the MP when the isos are clipped its input overloading (mic-in when line-in should have been used
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #98 on: April 04, 2021, 07:14:50 PM »
Yep, no idea what happened. I ran 3 pairs of mics and listened to each pair of mics afterwards on the recorder with no problems.

Here's one of the poly files if you feel inclined to play around: https://we.tl/t-i31gAxjc6b
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #99 on: April 04, 2021, 09:18:23 PM »
You do know that RX7 has a repair function for clipped files, right? 
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« Reply #100 on: April 04, 2021, 09:31:35 PM »
You do know that RX7 has a repair function for clipped files, right?
you do know that there is not a software on earth that can correct to 100% of what a correct unclipped signal can be, right?
Lets work on the fundamentals first
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« Reply #101 on: April 04, 2021, 09:38:12 PM »
Yep, no idea what happened. I ran 3 pairs of mics and listened to each pair of mics afterwards on the recorder with no problems.

Here's one of the poly files if you feel inclined to play around: https://we.tl/t-i31gAxjc6b

looks good from here. a lot of the tracks are digitally clipped but have full resolution when volume is dropped

i dont know why the isos would act differently? do they show hard clips when volumes are reduced?

Nothing fundamentally wrong there, and pretty easy to copy/paste the tracks you want to a 2-track if thats the only option
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« Reply #102 on: April 04, 2021, 10:06:08 PM »
Yep, no idea what happened. I ran 3 pairs of mics and listened to each pair of mics afterwards on the recorder with no problems.

Here's one of the poly files if you feel inclined to play around: https://we.tl/t-i31gAxjc6b

looks good from here. a lot of the tracks are digitally clipped but have full resolution when volume is dropped

i dont know why the isos would act differently? do they show hard clips when volumes are reduced?

Nothing fundamentally wrong there, and pretty easy to copy/paste the tracks you want to a 2-track if thats the only option

Thanks for taking a look. I have a pair of ISO tracks open in RX7 now and lowering the gain only reduces the volume level - the waveform still looks exactly the same and is unlistenable. The screenshots below are for a different file than the one I attached earlier, but it's in the same condition.

https://i.imgur.com/kLhDo1B.png

Here it is after lowering gain 20db:

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« Reply #103 on: April 04, 2021, 10:12:26 PM »
looks like perhaps a software issue. post up a short clip of the iso and ill see what soundforge does with it

in SF, "volume" and " normalize" are distinclty differnet functions - the former more useful with 32-bit float over 0dB

im not sure how the 'gain' function is izotope works- i only use it for the clever stuff not basic editing
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #104 on: April 04, 2021, 10:35:46 PM »
I'm sure that Jerry doesn't have RX7 and is simply offering an opinion without any basis for it.  If you haven't used it, don't knock it, Jerry.  Conversely I have RX7 and have experience using it and using to repair files, like clipping, click tracks, crowd noise and other external anomalies.  It is amazing.   

What RX7 does is by scanning the area (and that takes a fair amount of time, a one hour file might take 20 minutes for a scan), it then extrapolates what the wave curve should look like if there was no clipping, which also takes a lot of time (again, a one hour file might take 30 minutes to repair).  It then lowers the gain and restores the high points to the wave file with full dynamic range.

I get it that it is a educated guess on the part of RX7, but it is designed and sold to address this specific problem.  But RX7 is amazing in all respects, but it excels in clipping.  Let's just say that it is way better than simply lowering the gain as Jerry suggests.  Software Engineers that make a lot more money than you and me times 10 with college degrees in this specific area developed it, and the latest version (I have 2019) is amazing.  I also get it that it is stupidly expensive, which is why most people don't bother purchasing it, and simply criticize it. 
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #105 on: April 04, 2021, 11:04:20 PM »
I think the issue may be Wave Agent. I just read that it still does not support 32 bit files (really Sound Devices???) This didn't happen last time because I only ran 2 mics, hence no need for Wave Agent. If the software is exporting the files at 24 bit, it makes since that I can't "de-clip" them.

I'm going to download a trial of Audition to see if I can pull up the polywave file since my Audacity seems to have crapped out.

EDIT: Yep, it was Wave Agent's bad exports that was the issue. Thanks all.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #106 on: April 04, 2021, 11:18:58 PM »
I'm sure that Jerry doesn't have RX7 and is simply offering an opinion without any basis for it.

of course you would be wrong, but you obviously have a track record for making up random stuff, so there's that.

Like the 'restoring files with full dynamic range' claim. Its an approximation/recreation at best, and is by definition inferior to properly non-clipped levels in the first place

All of this is academic as clearly David's waveforms are not clipped

Its apparent you are still hell-bent on insulting people first then attempting to contribute topically as an after thought. Maybe best to stick with your buddies in the PZ echo chamber. At least your odd takes won't be challenged there. In any case, poor form to drag your animosities out into the actual content areas of the site

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Let's just say that it is way better than simply lowering the gain as Jerry suggests.  Software Engineers that make a lot more money than you and me times 10 with college degrees in this specific area developed it, and the latest version (I have 2019) is amazing.  I also get it that it is stupidly expensive, which is why most people don't bother purchasing it, and simply criticize it.

David's waveforms aren't clipped. It is indisputably better to simply adjust volume in a 32-bit-float file with samples over 0db, than it is to use software to needlessly interpolate data. Thats how the format is designed. The former is inherently a less-destructive process than recreating anything. While it is fine that you may think the people who developed your software are genuiuses,  if you dont understand the fundamentals of how the software works, you will never reap the full benefits of the tools they offer. I can build an entire house by hammering the nails in with the side of a hammer if i desire.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #107 on: April 05, 2021, 12:31:11 AM »
Yes, Freaky Jerry is suggesting that he is smarter than audio software engineers who have spent their entire career developing software to correct clipping.  He should perhaps contact Isotope and apply for a job.  I bet the Isotope Engineers never thought of simply reducing the volume!  Two college degrees in audio engineering and 15 years on the job experience, and they missed this obvious solution.  Brilliant.   :banging head:  The clipping is still there!  All that reducing gain has done is mask the problem by reducing the volume.  Its sorta like reducing covid testing to correct the covid infection rate. 

RX7 was designed in part to fix clipping, not by hiding the problem, but by using a specific software algorithm to spot and identify what frequencies are clipped via a scan and to restore the wave form using the software algorithm fix, a two step process.    It is not quick, it is not easy, and it is not cheap, but it works better than any other solution.   I usually run RX7 overnight on files for click tracks, and other anomalies. 
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #108 on: April 05, 2021, 12:54:53 AM »
please, for the love of god, go back to your troll hole

Posting stuff like this clearly demonstrates you didnt take a moment to even look at the files in question and are just here to stir up shit

The clipping is still there!

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #109 on: April 05, 2021, 02:35:53 AM »
Why on earth would one feel the need to go to izotope to artificially correct something not in need to be corrected other then simply lower the levels, do a normalisation or what ever and you are done.
It's not bricked walled in a 32-bit floating point space. Only for those living in the old fixed point world and refuse to step out of it.

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« Reply #110 on: April 05, 2021, 08:45:14 AM »
Haven't used my MP-6 in over a year. :( Just saw a new firmware 7.11 is a available. I'm on 5.5... Yah, or Nah?
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« Reply #111 on: April 05, 2021, 10:18:10 AM »
Haven't used my MP-6 in over a year. :( Just saw a new firmware 7.11 is a available. I'm on 5.5... Yah, or Nah?
theres been plenty of times people have settled on older FWs for various reasons

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #112 on: April 05, 2021, 11:13:37 AM »
I think the issue may be Wave Agent. I just read that it still does not support 32 bit files (really Sound Devices???) This didn't happen last time because I only ran 2 mics, hence no need for Wave Agent. If the software is exporting the files at 24 bit, it makes since that I can't "de-clip" them.

I'm going to download a trial of Audition to see if I can pull up the polywave file since my Audacity seems to have crapped out.

EDIT: Yep, it was Wave Agent's bad exports that was the issue. Thanks all.

When I first got an MP6-II, I was dismayed that Wave Agent could not handle 32 bit files.  Someone (maybe it was me) contacted SD and was told they did not intend to update Wave Agent.  I have been using Audacity to separate files (Audacity has just upgraded to 3.0, I have not used the new version yet). In any case it is a free download, not sure why you don't just kill your problem install and reload it.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #113 on: April 05, 2021, 09:50:56 PM »
I upgraded to the new version of audacity and it works like a charm. Thanks all. I am disappointed in sound devices regarding this issue.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #114 on: April 06, 2021, 02:17:09 PM »
^ I wouldn't be too disappointed; as Jeff mentioned, they have pretty much said in other forums (fora?) that they didn't see a point in updating WaveAgent since almost every editor deals with the polyphonic WAV format.

I am curious, though: how did it work out with the 5/6 input and your CK63s? Any issues? Were the levels the same as those for inputs 1 - 4?

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« Reply #115 on: April 06, 2021, 02:21:57 PM »
^ I wouldn't be too disappointed; as Jeff mentioned, they have pretty much said in other forums (fora?) that they didn't see a point in updating WaveAgent since almost every editor deals with the polyphonic WAV format.

I am curious, though: how did it work out with the 5/6 input and your CK63s? Any issues? Were the levels the same as those for inputs 1 - 4?

THanks for the reminder. The levels on 5-6 were about 10db or so under the other channels, even at the same gain settings. I ended up not using that pair as channels 1-4 were quality pulls. It doesn't sound bad...just that the mics were not really appropriate for the setting. I didn't notice any additional noise, so no worries there.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #116 on: April 06, 2021, 05:50:32 PM »
^ Interesting; thanks. That was with 5/6 set to line and 1 - 4 set to mic, I assume? I have been curious about how this works in 32-bit for a while, but since I have the original MixPre-6, I don't have the option to play around with it.

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« Reply #117 on: April 06, 2021, 06:38:04 PM »
^ Interesting; thanks. That was with 5/6 set to line and 1 - 4 set to mic, I assume? I have been curious about how this works in 32-bit for a while, but since I have the original MixPre-6, I don't have the option to play around with it.
id have to dig into my test notes but iirc the trim and gain ranges are similar regardless of bitrate
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« Reply #118 on: April 11, 2021, 09:39:02 AM »
32bit poly can easily be split in izotope as well.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #119 on: May 21, 2021, 08:48:41 AM »
Silly questions on a new MixPre-6 owner:

1) fully charged USB battery pack, Pre-6 is showing the battery as “Orange USB” is this normal?
2) if running a pair of balanced mic’s do you plug into 1 & 3 or 1 and 2? 
- It is cleaner in my bag if I use 1 & 3, what settings do I need to play with to support 1 & 3?

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Are you using usbc??  If so your battery doesn't provide the proper power and you need a different battery.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #121 on: May 21, 2021, 12:07:09 PM »
Thank you!

Yes - I tried USB-C, so try the battery packs w/ a USB 2.0 connection into the SD?

I have been reading thru the 1st gen thread and I remember reading about a specific USB-C cable, a lot of the old links are expired.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #122 on: May 21, 2021, 12:28:54 PM »
^ An advantage to using 1 - 2 is that you can link the channels. I don't think you can link 1 and 3 (although you can link 1 - 3).

With respect to the battery, SD says:

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To fully power the MixPre-3 II or MixPre-6 II from a USB power source not listed above, you will need BOTH of the following:

USB-C power source that is compliant with the USB powering specification and is able to output 7.5W
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Batteries with "PD" (power delivery) will work; Anker makes some (including the one SD recommends), as do others.

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« Reply #123 on: May 21, 2021, 02:17:19 PM »
Thank you, any suggestions on who makes the USB-C compliant cable?

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« Reply #124 on: May 21, 2021, 06:05:10 PM »
Thank you, any suggestions on who makes the USB-C compliant cable?

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« Reply #125 on: May 24, 2021, 10:04:11 AM »
Thank you ^.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #126 on: June 10, 2021, 12:47:52 AM »
has anyone had luck with a mixpre-3 or mixpre-6 version I copying directly to a usb-c thumb drive like this one? https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-128GB-Ultra-Drive-Type-C/dp/B01EZ0X55C
I see they have the functionality in the version II via USB-A, and from the version I user manual, it looks like the "write" is initiated from the device.  but I don't understand what would prevent the version I from writing to a usb-c thumb drive. maybe there is something I'm missing.  how about writing to an android smart phone (via usb-c)?

the reason I'm asking is I'm thinking about transferring a stereo wav off the device after a show to listen (via usb drive or smartphone) and don't want to have to get my laptop involved. can I write the LR wav file to the SD card (and then pull the card out and use a card reader) on my android/iphone to copy the wav? I'd like to avoid removing the sd card if possible, as to not risk somehow loosing the recording or corrupting the files.

also, how about usb Class 1/2 connectivity, or asio driver support with the Apple M1 Silicon MacBooks (via usb-c)? has this been tried?

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #127 on: June 10, 2021, 12:53:54 AM »
also, how about usb Class 1/2 connectivity, or asio driver support with the Apple M1 Silicon MacBooks (via usb-c)? has this been tried?
I am listening to computer audio played back through my Mixpre6 version 1 via USB-C on my M1 mini right now.
It's my main audio interface to my home stereo.

Not 100% sure about the ASIO part, cause I never had to specify that but it seems legit.
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When I put it into File Transfer mode under the system menu, it removes the audio interface availability until I exit file transfer mode
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2021, 09:13:16 AM »
also, how about usb Class 1/2 connectivity, or asio driver support with the Apple M1 Silicon MacBooks (via usb-c)? has this been tried?
I am listening to computer audio played back through my Mixpre6 version 1 via USB-C on my M1 mini right now.
It's my main audio interface to my home stereo.

Not 100% sure about the ASIO part, cause I never had to specify that but it seems legit.

ASIO is a Windows thing. macOS doesn´t need that.

MixPres are class compliant USB audio devices. You can configure them as stereo devices or full multitrack.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #129 on: June 10, 2021, 11:28:29 AM »
has anyone had luck with a mixpre-3 or mixpre-6 version I copying directly to a usb-c thumb drive like this one? https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-128GB-Ultra-Drive-Type-C/dp/B01EZ0X55C
I see they have the functionality in the version II via USB-A, and from the version I user manual, it looks like the "write" is initiated from the device.  but I don't understand what would prevent the version I from writing to a usb-c thumb drive. maybe there is something I'm missing.  how about writing to an android smart phone (via usb-c)?

the reason I'm asking is I'm thinking about transferring a stereo wav off the device after a show to listen (via usb drive or smartphone) and don't want to have to get my laptop involved. can I write the LR wav file to the SD card (and then pull the card out and use a card reader) on my android/iphone to copy the wav? I'd like to avoid removing the sd card if possible, as to not risk somehow loosing the recording or corrupting the files.

also, how about usb Class 1/2 connectivity, or asio driver support with the Apple M1 Silicon MacBooks (via usb-c)? has this been tried?


The first version of the MixPre 3/6 do not have the needed internal USB hardware and is therefor unable to write to a thumb drive.
What you can do is run an iPhone or iPod on the USB port via a lightning cable and se it up as an external two channel recorder while doing the real recording on the MixPre.
Or do it "off line" and simply let the MixPre play the recording and have an external iOS device recording it - but it will be time consuming as it have to be done 1:1 instead of simply doing a transfer of the wav files as the second version can do it.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #130 on: June 10, 2021, 04:34:58 PM »
I am listening to computer audio played back through my Mixpre6 version 1 via USB-C on my M1 mini right now.
It's my main audio interface to my home stereo.
When I put it into File Transfer mode under the system menu, it removes the audio interface availability until I exit file transfer mode

nice, thanks for the info and screenshot.

ASIO is a Windows thing. macOS doesn´t need that.

doh. thanks

What you can do is run an iPhone or iPod on the USB port via a lightning cable and se it up as an external two channel recorder while doing the real recording on the MixPre.

thanks for the tip.

but it will be time consuming as it have to be done 1:1

well, i'm not _that_ concerned about taking the card out. I will likely just pull it to transfer to my mobile via usb-c>usb-a>card reader

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #131 on: June 10, 2021, 08:11:55 PM »
It's my main audio interface to my home stereo.

:cowbell:

m1 mini > mixpre-6 > ?

I've got a pair of HS7s I've been using with my Komplete Audio 6, but it can't even power a single AKG C214 on 5V.... much less anything anything else the mixpre-6 can do. >:D



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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #132 on: June 10, 2021, 10:11:45 PM »
It's my main audio interface to my home stereo.
:cowbell:m1 mini > mixpre-6 > ?I've got a pair of HS7s I've been using with my Komplete Audio 6, but it can't even power a single AKG C214 on 5V.... much less anything anything else the mixpre-6 can do. >:D 
I run from the very delicate Mixpre6 mini output, using a pretty standard stereo 1/8" mini > 2xRCAs cable into my Denon PMA-520 "Precision Audio Component / Integrated Stereo Amplifier" (you know, like a receiver, but with no tuner. It's a control/preamplifier and power amplifier in one box) purchased from Best Sound in St Louis county, in 1989 for my college graduation.I run some decent speaker cables (nothing fancy, just a bunch of copper strands comprising two conductors, and stuffed into a plastic-y jacket) into a pair of A/D/S M12 3-way "tower" monitor speakers with a pair of 8"s, 5" midrange and a 1" soft dome tweeter in the middle. Sealed cabinet design. Mmm. Sealed cabinet. (ported, aka reflex designs rely on holes which concentrate air flow and cause resonance which does not help me with my mixing or listening.)My A/D/S M12 pair is black in color, similar to the attached image.

is that what you were asking?

or did you want to know about my inputs to the system?
I am not podcasting or recording directly from the mixpre, although it seems to work fine in testing. :hmmm:

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #133 on: June 10, 2021, 10:51:52 PM »
I run from the very delicate Mixpre6 mini output
or did you want to know about my inputs to the system?

I had a 1/8" stereo 12" techflex cable with RA neutrik connectors custom made on here (can't remember from who) a while back from the 3.5mm out I used to run into my M10 from a mixpre and mixpre-d. I wouldn't consider anything SD necessarily delicate. that was a pretty bomb proof connection with those metal RA neutrik 1/8" connectors into the mixpre out.  (a side note, my buddy was plugging his ipod into my car one time with that 12" cable and was so jealous I had it custom made lol. had never heard of such a thing)

It looked like you had stereo input to the mixpre-6 in your screenshot earlier, guessing that's a single usb-c connection, with power from the mini?

is that what you were asking?

yes. i like the amp. just curious. i'm not a huge fan of my komplete audio 6, and would like to replace it with something much more substantial, simply as an interface to my (powered) HS7 from my main desktop. I know the outputs on the mixpre-6 are fairly limited. I could run the stereo out into a mixer (which would be useful for some other stuff), but OTOH my main desktop stays powered on around the clock and not sure i want to run the mixpre-6 24/7.

I do need to also use the P48 inputs also for some "studio" work (voice over, live broadcasting), which I can definitely make happen with the mixpre-6 now.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #134 on: Yesterday at 02:18:17 AM »
I had a 1/8" stereo 12" techflex cable with RA neutrik connectors custom made on here (can't remember from who) a while back from the 3.5mm out I used to run into my M10 from a mixpre and mixpre-d. I wouldn't consider anything SD necessarily delicate. that was a pretty bomb proof connection with those metal RA neutrik 1/8" connectors into the mixpre out.  (a side note, my buddy was plugging his ipod into my car one time with that 12" cable and was so jealous I had it custom made lol. had never heard of such a thing)

It looked like you had stereo input to the mixpre-6 in your screenshot earlier, guessing that's a single usb-c connection, with power from the mini?

is that what you were asking?

yes. i like the amp. just curious. i'm not a huge fan of my komplete audio 6, and would like to replace it with something much more substantial, simply as an interface to my (powered) HS7 from my main desktop. I know the outputs on the mixpre-6 are fairly limited. I could run the stereo out into a mixer (which would be useful for some other stuff), but OTOH my main desktop stays powered on around the clock and not sure i want to run the mixpre-6 24/7.

I do need to also use the P48 inputs also for some "studio" work (voice over, live broadcasting), which I can definitely make happen with the mixpre-6 now.
My mixpre has spent less than 72 hours "off" since the pandemic began, and none of that on battery power.
I run it constantly via USB-C as the sound interface.
Bought some external SSD's recently though, and noticed that the Anker branded skinny USB-C cable I'm using is NOT sufficient to run a Samsung T5 or T7, though it powers the mixpre with "green" levels via the M1 USB-C port.
That said, I have a Kingston Nucleum USB-C hub which I plug into one of my MacMini Thunderbolt 4 ports (they are backward compatible with Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C)
When I plug the MixPre6 vI into the Nucleum hub via the Anker cable which came with my USB-C battery, I only get "amber" power levels, enough for two but not four channels of Kashmir preamp.
When I plug the MixPre6 vI into the M1 MacMini Thunderbolt/USB-C ports directly with that same cable, it gets "green"  levels of power on the indicator, so it could run four channels of 48v phantom if needed.
 
v6.0 firmware currently on my Mixpre6

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #135 on: Yesterday at 02:34:03 AM »
The first version of the MixPre 3/6 do not have the needed internal USB hardware and is therefor unable to write to a thumb drive.
Everything comes down to a more limited SOC (CPU and FPGA combination) for the first series. The second series seems to have much more computing power available, making it even possible to implement real time noise reduction.

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What you can do is run an iPhone or iPod on the USB port via a lightning cable and se it up as an external two channel recorder while doing the real recording on the MixPre.
Or do it "off line" and simply let the MixPre play the recording and have an external iOS device recording it - but it will be time consuming as it have to be done 1:1 instead of simply doing a transfer of the wav files as the second version can do it.
There is no need to be limited to two channels.

If the DAW software you use on the iThing supports multi channel audio you can access everything through USB. For example, the MixPre 3 appears as a 6x2 audio interface.

It depends on the USB audio mode you configure. And it can be non intuitive: In order to connect to a Lightning port you need to use a USB-A to Lightning cable.

Do not connect via the USB-C port on the MixPre to a Lightning camera adapter because the power management in the MixPre can get nuts and the Lightning to USB adapter can get really hot. There was even an obscure bug I reported (fixed in the latest firmware versions).

Sound Devices published a support note about it.
https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre-ii-series-as-audio-interfaces-for-tablets-and-phones/

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #136 on: Yesterday at 02:37:04 AM »

v6.0 firmware currently on my Mixpre6
I would recommend the latest versions. There was some power management trouble when powered via USB-C in non ideal conditions and they have improved it.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #137 on: Yesterday at 03:53:10 AM »
You are absolutely right - I totally forgot about that!
Thank you.

There is no need to be limited to two channels.

If the DAW software you use on the iThing supports multi channel audio you can access everything through USB. For example, the MixPre 3 appears as a 6x2 audio interface.

It depends on the USB audio mode you configure. And it can be non intuitive: In order to connect to a Lightning port you need to use a USB-A to Lightning cable.
https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre-ii-series-as-audio-interfaces-for-tablets-and-phones/

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #138 on: Yesterday at 09:42:42 AM »

My mixpre has spent less than 72 hours "off" since the pandemic began, and none of that on battery power.
I run it constantly via USB-C as the sound interface.
:cheers:

When I plug the MixPre6 vI into the Nucleum hub via the Anker cable which came with my USB-C battery, I only get "amber" power levels, enough for two but not four channels of Kashmir preamp.
When I plug the MixPre6 vI into the M1 MacMini Thunderbolt/USB-C ports directly with that same cable, it gets "green"  levels of power on the indicator, so it could run four channels of 48v phantom if needed.
 

nice. good info.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #139 on: Yesterday at 09:44:54 AM »
Do not connect via the USB-C port on the MixPre to a Lightning camera adapter because the power management in the MixPre can get nuts and the Lightning to USB adapter can get really hot. There was even an obscure bug I reported (fixed in the latest firmware versions).

Sound Devices published a support note about it.
https://www.sounddevices.com/mixpre-ii-series-as-audio-interfaces-for-tablets-and-phones/

I would recommend the latest versions. There was some power management trouble when powered via USB-C in non ideal conditions and they have improved it.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #140 on: Yesterday at 06:43:08 PM »
v6.0 firmware currently on my Mixpre6
I would recommend the latest versions. There was some power management trouble when powered via USB-C in non ideal conditions and they have improved it.
Ah thanks for the tip. Been thinking it's time to bump it up and this is a genuine reason to do so.
Hey when I went there, they have a specific ASIO driver for windows which adds multi channel support.

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An ASIO® driver (v) for the MixPre Series by Ploytec is now available for download.
With USB Audio Class 1 devices — that is, Windows-based computers without an ASIO driver — the MixPre Series audio recorders are capable of sending two channels of audio (L, R) and receiving two channels of audio via USB to/from the computer.
This software driver adds ASIO support in Windows OS for the MixPre-6 and/or MixPre-3. With the ASIO driver installed, Windows-based computers become USB Audio Class 2 devices, which means the MixPre-6 can send eight channels (1-6, L, R) to the computer and receive four channels from the computer via USB, while the MixPre-3 can send five in and receive two out. The ASIO driver for the MixPre Series allows for low-latency operation and max sample rate for USB audio up to 96 kHz on Windows computers. This driver supports Windows 7 and later, both 32- and 64-bit versions.
For stable performance, Sound Devices highly recommends that your Windows computer is installed with the latest Intel USB drivers even if your computer is not Intel based. These drivers are not included in Windows automatic updates. For details on how to manually install these drivers, refer to this Technical Document.

OOH heads up, it's a double whammy!

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7. When upgrading to firmware version 7.0 or higher from any version lower than 6.0 the firmware installation process will need to be completed twice. After the first installation is complete, the MixPre II will prompt you to start the second installation process.

Also, I had not run the Wingman app in several iOS updates but when I tried it after the firmware update, I had to quit the Wingman app and run it again before it displayed levels properly, even though it was connected and reporting the serial number of the Mixpre6. Oh Geez, it only works about 2/3 of the time. It doesn't show levels on Wingman reliably now. Once you use the About function, the levels don't come back until you quit and restart the app. Oh never mind, I was disconnecting the device from wingman every time I use the About function to identify. Confusing app for something which has such limited functionality!
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