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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2021, 12:19:14 PM »
Am orientating for a CCM41 stereo set
U r going to spend 3k + and don't know how to power them?
Crazy

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No, I don't know how to feed them so opened this thread and got a lot of helpful comments.
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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2021, 04:53:05 PM »
Ok, sorry I jumped on ya, but asking about a SP batt box to power ccm41's?  Thats.....  lots on this board.  I've seen u round here.  U have to know about phantom, pfa's, nbox, etc.  It's all over here on powering a bunch of different makers caps"active "style .  And ccm's, doesn't get much easier than them.  Good luck
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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2021, 05:34:13 PM »
Crazy question doesn’t exsist, it’s crazy not to ask if you don’t know.
Mics: DPA 4060 - OKM II - SP-CMC-4U (AT853)

Power: A3 - SP-SPSB-10

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Recorders: Roland R-07 - Marantz PMD620 - Tascam DR-2d (2x) - Tascam DR-08

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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2021, 08:47:43 PM »
one8ung, I completely agree.

In professional audio by now, there's only one standard powering system any more ("phantom"); it's defined for 48V and for 12V. A microphone can support either one or both. If a preamp or recorder says it has one or both built in, but it fails to work with a microphone that conforms to the standard, then the preamp or recorder maker gets a bad reputation, so they try to avoid that.

That's exactly how standards are supposed to work. Expectations for reliable "interoperation" of equipment from different manufacturers are high, though the equipment prices are correspondingly high as well. You're basically paying for the negative experiences that you _don't_ have to go through, that could cost you your job, since so many professional sound recordists are freelancers. In the professional realm, conformance to standards--playing well with others--is part of how a brand's reputation is established.

In the consumer world there are standards, too, but a whole lot of improvising and adapting and freelancing also goes on. Not just around the margins; some major consumer brands assert themselves by "setting standards of their own" as a conscious marketing strategy.

"Plug-in powering" for electret microphones is a huge example of this. About a year ago I bought a Sony lavalier mike (electret with plug-in powering) but found that it wouldn't work with another piece of equipment that also said it had plug-in powering (same voltage range). I returned the mike, and the store took it back without question; the problem wasn't new to them. Plug-in powering from brand "A" doesn't necessarily equal plug-in powering from brand "B" or even from another division of brand "A"--not even for the same voltage range; the plugs and sockets can be wired in conflicting ways.

Given how critical microphones are to recording, and how critical powering is to microphones, yes, definitely ask as many questions as you have--ask them twice, if that's what it takes to get answers you can rely on.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2021, 12:15:34 PM by DSatz »
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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2021, 05:20:14 PM »
Am orientating for a CCM41 stereo set
U r going to spend 3k + and don't know how to power them?
Crazy

Hey, we all had to start somewhere.  I just learned something today by one8ung asking about how to power his mics.  Never even heard of the CMC1's.
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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2021, 07:02:51 PM »
Welcome to Team Schoeps one8ung.  That's what was missed from this thread.
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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2021, 09:58:29 AM »
gormenghast (and anyone else unfamiliar with the CMC 1), please see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7IPridYbgg . The video shows the original XLR version.

Since then, the even smaller Lemo version (one inch, one ounce) has also become available. It makes the CCM series into a niche product in my opinion--and for newcomers to the modular system, I think it will also elbow aside the Colette active accessories to a great extent (snif). There's a video that introduces the CMC 1 L among other topics on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ai_FuIENSA .

By the way, the big old CM 50/2 tube microphone shown for size comparison in that video (around 12:30) had to be shrunk 10% to fit it onto the slide, so the contrast is even greater in reality. Plus the photo shows only the CMV 50 amplifier, not the complete microphone--which was about two inches taller with its CM 50/6 capsule attached. Back then you could have any pattern that you wanted, as long as it was omni ...
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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2021, 10:50:10 AM »
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Thank you for the CMC 1 L update DSatz!

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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2021, 12:31:50 PM »


Since then, the even smaller Lemo version (one inch, one ounce) has also become available. It makes the CCM series into a niche product in my opinion--and for newcomers to the modular system, I think it will also elbow aside the Colette active accessories to a great extent (snif). There's a video that introduces the CMC 1 L among other topics on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ai_FuIENSA .




Has anyone gotten to see the CMC1 K announced for early 2021?  This looks a bit smaller even than the L version, but with attached cable rather than lemo connector.

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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2021, 12:39:10 PM »


Since then, the even smaller Lemo version (one inch, one ounce) has also become available. It makes the CCM series into a niche product in my opinion--and for newcomers to the modular system, I think it will also elbow aside the Colette active accessories to a great extent (snif). There's a video that introduces the CMC 1 L among other topics on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ai_FuIENSA .




Has anyone gotten to see the CMC1 K announced for early 2021?  This looks a bit smaller even than the L version, but with attached cable rather than lemo connector.

Jeff
Cmc1 k.  Just like B9audio.  Who's knocking off who!!?? Lol
The cmc1L is slick, but lemo cables will be needed.  Ed
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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2021, 01:04:17 PM »


Since then, the even smaller Lemo version (one inch, one ounce) has also become available. It makes the CCM series into a niche product in my opinion--and for newcomers to the modular system, I think it will also elbow aside the Colette active accessories to a great extent (snif). There's a video that introduces the CMC 1 L among other topics on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ai_FuIENSA .




Has anyone gotten to see the CMC1 K announced for early 2021?  This looks a bit smaller even than the L version, but with attached cable rather than lemo connector.

Jeff
Cmc1 k.  Just like B9audio.  Who's knocking off who!!?? Lol
The cmc1L is slick, but lemo cables will be needed.  Ed

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The lemo cable is included with the cmc 1 L.

https://schoeps.de/en/products/colette/microphone-amplifiers/cmc-1-l.html

K 5 LU (5 m cable with XLR-3M plug) and SGC stand adapter are included


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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2021, 01:25:15 PM »


Since then, the even smaller Lemo version (one inch, one ounce) has also become available. It makes the CCM series into a niche product in my opinion--and for newcomers to the modular system, I think it will also elbow aside the Colette active accessories to a great extent (snif). There's a video that introduces the CMC 1 L among other topics on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ai_FuIENSA .




Has anyone gotten to see the CMC1 K announced for early 2021?  This looks a bit smaller even than the L version, but with attached cable rather than lemo connector.

Jeff
Cmc1 k.  Just like B9audio.  Who's knocking off who!!?? Lol
The cmc1L is slick, but lemo cables will be needed.  Ed

^
The lemo cable is included with the cmc 1 L.

https://schoeps.de/en/products/colette/microphone-amplifiers/cmc-1-l.html

K 5 LU (5 m cable with XLR-3M plug) and SGC stand adapter are included
Very cool.  A modular phantom powered kcy!!  Dig it!  Any need for the CCM line?? Bit outdated now
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Re: 12 volts on Schoeps microphones?
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2021, 01:45:00 PM »
Cmc1L or cmc1K the smart upgrade for PFA only  users, IMO
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