Topic: Neumann kmi 84 vs km84i

[twoodruff]

anyone know what if any is the difference

[Rick]

single vs. set,..... if my memory serves me well?    its been a long while.


edit:
I'm just guessing, really.
A friend used to leave his km84's out here when the dead weren't touring, and I used them quite a bit for local acts. I labeled everything as km84's. I got copies of Jeffs recordings where he labeled them as km84i, and I thought I recall him mentioning that as a set designation?

take it for what its worth,....

I thought the 84i has xlr while the 84 has tuchel connectors.

[Joe w.]

the i is just the older model as i understand it. neumann does make a 84, but i can't find it for sale anywhere. Fixed card pattern 84, although the seam at the top makes it look as if the cap could come of, but the card pattern on the body suggests no.

[Joe w.]

the i is a fixed cap (card) mic. I am 100% sure of that.

[twoodruff]

ok is there a difference in the two? (using below links)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41466&item=7331917966&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41466&item=7332004989&rd=1

[twoodruff]

so which one is this?

[wboswell]

so which one is this?

I'm not the brightest guy around but I'm not from MS either...

it appears that since the capsule on the above mic is off, its most likely interchangeable.  Sexto's comments above seem to indicate that the "i" stands for interchangeable, so I'm guessing the pic is for the km84i.

[twoodruff]

so which one is this?

I'm not the brightest guy around but I'm not from MS either...

it appears that since the capsule on the above mic is off, its most likely interchangeable.  Sexto's comments above seem to indicate that the "i" stands for interchangeable, so I'm guessing the pic is for the km84i.

evidently you can't read the fucking thread either jackass. I am asking the difference between the kmi 84 and the km84i, there is an "i" in both. We have established that the "i" indicates interchangeable, whereas no "i" is fixed. so what about the placement of the "i", that's what I want to know

[fozzy]

Not much help but a correction.

From some posts over @ neumann archive.
"The "i" refers to the "international" version which has a switchcraft (cannon) connector."

"First, virtually all US imports, except very early ones and the odd 'gray' import here and there, have XLR 3-pin connectors. That's all the 'i' suffix indicates. ('i' for: international, i.e. export)"

I see refernces to both w/o any correction, I bet they are the same mics where the serial number may reference one thing and the packagaing/lable may represent the other, Just a guess.

[wboswell]

evidently you can't read the fucking thread either jackass. I am asking the difference between the kmi 84 and the km84i, there is an "i" in both. We have established that the "i" indicates interchangeable, whereas no "i" is fixed. so what about the placement of the "i", that's what I want to know

seems that no one else read it right either

the placement of the "i" is a matter of semantics...  I've seen it placed both places but the correct description is km 84i.  At least that's the best I can tell.

[twoodruff]

sweet a picture

I have my answer

[wboswell]

http://www.neumann.com/infopool/history/produkte.php?ProdID=km84

Download the old manual and it says point blank that the capsules are interchangeable

[Nick Graham]

As we've established,the actual name of the mic is KM 84i, with the caps being interchangeable.

FWIW though, I have seen some KM184s listed as KMi84, so that may be a bit of the problem.

[wboswell]

Its misleading as hell.  Check out the pic in this auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41466&item=7330899393&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

It says KMi on the body and 84 on the capsule, but Neumann calls them KM84i.

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

FWIW though, I have seen some KM184s listed as KMi84, so that may be a bit of the problem.

That is a problem.  They are not the same mic.  I have limited exposure to the KM84i but the tapes I have heard sounded more silky than the KM184s - sort of like the difference between the KM184s and the KM140s if I recall correctly.

That photo with the capsule removed looks just like the mounting style (that long pin) of the capsule of the 184s.   I don't think that the KM84i is designed to be a swappable capsule in the way that KM100s are.