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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: chris_jones on November 28, 2003, 09:55:19 PM
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Hey, everyone:
I'm new to this forum.
It's not at all my intention to open a can of worms, but I'm taken aback by all of the pejorative DMB references around here. Even if it's in jest, why frown on DMB tapers?
Curiosity abounds.
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Because all we do is get close and run high. No skill in that, right? ::)
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do you tape SCI too? look out ;D
i'm a SCI taper, we get a little heat too. but don't worry, it's only coming from a bunch of phish and wsp tapers 8)
jr
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because the dmb tapers make better tapes
(ducking)
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Just general giving-of-shit to each other. It comes with the community, and we've got a good one.
No harm, no foul
+T again
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Oh, I'm not the least bit worried, I'm just curious how we're perceived by the rest of the taping world.
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Oh, and Lee, no harm indeed :-) Definitely didn't rub me the wrong way in the other thread...didn't post this because of you, just was curious what the DMB stereotype was all about :-)
Still didn't find those 414's...still looking for a pair to test drive before I shell out.
Nice to meet y'all.
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Chris is a good man to have here...I would venture to say that he probably has the most extensive portable rig I have ever seen..hell if I had not seen it myself, I would not have believed it 8)
Oh yeah and Chris, it is also fair to attack all the jam band wookie bands that everyone seems to tape alot around here...all good natured ribbing...
Nick
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Oh, that's easy. I shit on them because Dave Matthews Band sucks!
I'm kidding, come on! Smile with me... :D
Armen
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Oh, that's easy. I shit on them because Dave Matthews Band sucks!
I'm kidding, come on! Smile with me... :D
Armen
we know your kidding....but even if you weren't...at least you get out and tape bands that dont all sound like Phish/Umphreys/insert random hippie jam band here ;D
come on now....kidding!!! ;D ;D
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Hahaha, word up to that, G!
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Maybe all the WSP/Phish tapers are just jealous of the extremely generous DMB FOB policy. ;)
Welcome Chris!
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You don't need FOB if you stealth... like real men...
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Oh, that's easy. I shit on them because Dave Matthews Band sucks!
I'm kidding, come on! Smile with me... :D
Armen
kidding? I'm not ;)
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i can't get into panic but i don't feel the need to bash them every chance i get....
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No, but just dangle the letters O, A, and R in front of Scott and he will bite ;)
Chris' rig is portable if you have a pack mule.
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No, but just dangle the letters O, A, and R in front of Scott and he will bite ;)
honestly, who can pass on the chance to refer to o.a.r. as the worst band ever? :)
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No, but just dangle the letters O, A, and R in front of Scott and he will bite ;)
honestly, who can pass on the chance to refer to o.a.r. as the worst band ever? :)
Not I... OAR=Worst. Band. Ever.
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Worst band ever!!!!! I think ween might be a close second in my book. Welcome aboard. DMB tapers probably get shit because a, who can't make a good stack tape, and b, has a lot more to do with the crowd than tha taper!
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who can't make a good stack tape
I love the way this comment is always thrown around.......amazing to me, especially considering how MUCH better section tapes sound.... ;D...seriously what do you do that is different and SO much more difficult to get a good section tape? Run to the section so you can claim the center spot, regardless of what your ticketed seat is?? ;D All kidding aside, section tapes, stack tapes....not much difference...now if you want to talk a skill, lets talk how difficult it is to get a good stealth tape...now there is talent!
I taped in the section at Phish this year, and will never do it again....if stack taping is the only other option...then so be it...cause section tapes are WAY overrated.
My .02
Nick
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section? what's that :D
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who can't make a good stack tape
I love the way this comment is always thrown around.......amazing to me, especially considering how MUCH better section tapes sound.... ;D...seriously what do you do that is different and SO much more difficult to get a good section tape? Run to the section so you can claim the center spot, regardless of what your ticketed seat is?? ;D All kidding aside, section tapes, stack tapes....not much difference...now if you want to talk a skill, lets talk how difficult it is to get a good stealth tape...now there is talent!
I taped in the section at Phish this year, and will never do it again....if stack taping is the only other option...then so be it...cause section tapes are WAY overrated.
My .02
Nick
:DISCLAIMER: not trying to start shit, just defending my position here :/DISCLAIMER:
I agree with the stealth tape comment, mucho props there.
I just think that as far as section tapes go (or any open taping, sans stack tapes) it takes a little more skill to make the most of it- cap selection, stereo config, stand height, even gear selection come into play in a way that they don't when you're 6 feet from a mono PA.
I imagine if you give someone taping their first show a 17 foot mic stand, a D8, and, say for comparison's sake, CMC64>V3, they'd be able to pull a decent tape so long as they start the deck and get their levels close. From a section, or in the middle of a bar, even at a festival, there are so many more variables that need to be learned in order to get "the" tape. I'm not knocking the DMB stack tapes- they smoke-or the people that make them- they're great- but I think it takes a little more skill to get the same caliber source from behind the board.
I guess what hassles you give up in terms of feeling the room out you make up for in having to deal with the crowd. Not having the "drunk fratlord/spun wookie/'shhh'-ing old man" variable come into play-at any show- makes it worth my while to be a section rat.
+T's all around
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i can't get into panic but i don't feel the need to bash them every chance i get....
The Zeta is rotting your brain...
I KEED!
Chris' rig is portable if you have a pack mule.
Are you the fabled Trak2 guy?? Damn! How do you power that thing? I've always been curious...
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great taping policy, pretty good music, but some of the biggest assclown fans ever. screaming girls AND guys, cell phone holding up, even had a mollied out kid walk through the row wiping pretzel mustard on people. not to mention loud singing of lyrics. not exclusive to dmb, but worse imo. I have yet *not* to have a problem with someone at a dmb show. If I hadn't been alone with my gear last year in Phoenix, I would have knocked this fucker out. Spilled a beer right behind the 1k and laughed about it, and screamed through the whole show. that's why I'll never go again.
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agreed, DMB fans for the most part are bad...the good news is alot of the shows have several tapers and in some part, some of us are relatively smart, and trade seats around, so that a group of tapers are taping/blocking...helps to limit some of the bozo crowd crap...
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because the dmb tapers make better tapes
(ducking)
:rotflmao:
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this thread makes me :lol:
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section taping rules. drunk, teenie-bopper screaming fans dont appeal to me or my tape, dave has fallen off in his music since crash, just doesnt do it for me like phish, um, moe. does, they rock, and lee has it right, there is a lot more to section taping than a 20ft stand on a mono stack, just a few cents tossed in
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section taping rules.
now that is funny.... ;D
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do you ever sleep?
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Worst band ever!!!!! I think ween might be a close second in my book.
hey now, i'm not that big of a ween fan, but they are entertaining to watch live
and who is this OAR band, my friends played the NEMO music conference and they had OAR buttons laying everywhere around the place.
ed
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha
do you ever sleep?
NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAGH
(from Metallica's "Blackened")
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most of the girls who go to DMB shows aren't old enough to need to shave...there is plenty of box at a panic show that has showered that day...can't say the same for phish.
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Panic shows have much hotter women than any other show I've gone too... and they're not still in highschool and vomitting on their shoes so yeah, still better than dmb chicks
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Panic shows have much hotter women than any other show I've gone too... and they're not still in highschool and vomitting on their shoes so yeah, still better than dmb chicks
you have been to the wrong DMB shows then...
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put Nick stereotyping sooo much fun
only went once, fall '96 in St.Louis... Dave's voice was awful and the crowd blew.
I'll stick with the studio albums and official live releases, good stuff!
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Panic shows have much hotter women than any other show I've gone too... and they're not still in highschool and vomitting on their shoes so yeah, still better than dmb chicks
I am a DMB fan, but you've got a point about the pukers - three chicks puked themselves in front of me at MSG2 last year.
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Panic shows have much hotter women than any other show I've gone too... and they're not still in highschool and vomitting on their shoes so yeah, still better than dmb chicks
I am a DMB fan, but you've got a point about the pukers - three chicks puked themselves in front of me at MSG2 last year.
Also due to the number of females at dmb shows, you get longer lines to the ladies rooms meaning there's a better chance you see the wasted one (like wasted, stumbling drunk 16 year olds after 1 1/2 beers) going into the men's rooms because they can't wait in their own lines. This isn't a stereotype, I've seen it happen on a few occasions and each time was at a dmb show.
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put Nick stereotyping sooo much fun
only went once, fall '96 in St.Louis... Dave's voice was awful and the crowd blew.
I'll stick with the studio albums and official live releases, good stuff!
I know, I know. I have seen some damn bad DMB shows too, but they are definitely outweighed by the smoking ones I have seen (reference 11/28/99 - Greensboro, with Bela Fleck basically the entire show).
Truth be told though, whenever I get out here locally to tape Particle, Umphreys, etc...I always get some jackass hippies that dont give two shits about whose space they invade, and what the impact to me, my gear or stand is...I will deal with drunk girls anyday ;D
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Chris is a good man to have here...I would venture to say that he probably has the most extensive portable rig I have ever seen..hell if I had not seen it myself, I would not have believed it 8)
Nick
I met chris jones a while ago in philly at matthewson/train show...nice guy...nice rig...here's a photo! welcome chris...i''m sure you don't remember me...
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and this is Chris' stealth rig...he also has a Trak 2 which makes it out for special appearances 8)
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as for dmb...li ike them now, but not as much as during uttad/crowded streets/crash era...stopped going to shows due to amt of annoying screaming freaks attending the shows...and because of this, no real desire to see him again in concert...
just my opinion...ymmv
chris k
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I know the first thing I do when I get to a show is look at the people around me and judge my entire experience on that. But that's just me.
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screaming, yelling, talking, vomiting, beer spilling, peeing on the lawn... all shit I witnessed at my one and only DMB show
that's more than just "being around me"
but point taken SJ!
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Haha, Chris. I haven't seen you tape since ... D&T, perhaps? It's amazing the downsizing that rig has gone through. Long gone are the 2 rack case days and trying to steal AC power (the Point).
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peeing on the lawn
who cares what is going on in the lawn when you are in the first 10 rows? ;D
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peeing on the lawn
who cares what is going on in the lawn when you are in the first 10 rows? ;D
First night at DMB Alpine this year the person in front of my buddies got thrown out for going on the seat in front of them
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First night at DMB Alpine this year the person in front of my buddies got thrown out for going on the seat in front of them
OK, great....I am sure this stuff never happens at Phish shows with all the trashed hippies that are there....
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I know the first thing I do when I get to a show is look at the people around me and judge my entire experience on that. But that's just me.
what would you think if you saw this?
(http://www.davematthewsband.com/road/centralpark/24/images/31.jpg)
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I saw a guy pee on the lawn at Alpine Phish this summer
full disclosure here
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>>screaming, yelling, talking, vomiting, beer spilling, peeing on the lawn... all shit I witnessed at my one and only DMB show<<
i've seen that at allmans, mule, derek trucks, ben harper, etc
basically every outdoor show i've ever been to
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I still love you Scott...
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I still love you Scott...
:grouphug::happylove::grouphug:
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oh wait, I thought he said that he had DONE all of that at various shows... my bad.
j/k - stupid people are everywhere!
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ratdog sucks!
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I know the first thing I do when I get to a show is look at the people around me and judge my entire experience on that. But that's just me.
what would you think if you saw this?
(http://www.davematthewsband.com/road/centralpark/24/images/31.jpg)
First thing that would come to mind is "wait, where are all the hula hoops?"
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Hula hoops? It isn't an SCI show...
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I know the first thing I do when I get to a show is look at the people around me and judge my entire experience on that. But that's just me.
what would you think if you saw this?
(http://www.davematthewsband.com/road/centralpark/24/images/31.jpg)
First thing that would come to mind is "wait, where are all the hula hoops?"
first thing i thought odf was, " there are two people having sex in the foreground"
jr
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+T ... me too, but I didn't want to be the first perv to post that in case it's just some weird shadow or something :)
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