Topic: What's a nice way to turn down patchers?

[wsphansam]

While taping YMSB last week I got approached by a patcher. Told him it was my first time ever really taping and he'd probably better go through someone else.(Good thing too, 9v in the AD-20 went out 3/4 through 1st set) What's a nice way to turn away patchers if need be later in my taping career w/out saying it's my first time out?

[blu666z]

Got a short in my output.

-Kevin

[jpschust]

i generally offer a patch if they are there in time, but warn them of possabilities in situations like that

[Sparge Master]

While taping YMSB last week I got approached by a patcher. Told him it was my first time ever really taping and he'd probably better go through someone else.(Good thing too, 9v in the AD-20 went out 3/4 through 1st set) What's a nice way to turn away patchers if need be later in my taping career w/out saying it's my first time out?

Sounds sorta like me but did that for the opener hbrsb. I was able to borrow 4AA from slick rick. Rick also had a battery problem too that night.

[carlbeck]

Just run AKG's, they'll never ask for a patch They'll go looking for the heady Schoeps.

[BCostigan]

Just run AKG's, they'll never ask for a patch They'll go looking for the heady Schoeps.

Kinda funny how much truth there is to that!   I've had a few patchers basically come up to me, deck in hand, and ask if I'm running schoeps......the funny thing is that one of the times I was running ADK LEs!!!  Pretty easy to get the two confused I guess............

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oh yea....I always  give a patch to anyone that asks.....just sometimes I may not be as forthcoming with cables that they usually don't have.  

[F.O.Bean]

kinda nice running the jb3, cause it cant pass a signal, but i DO have a coax out ready, but they dont have to know that

im pretty much always giving a patch if someone asks, but occassionally i just tell em i dont wanna deal w/ it and to look around, the truth hurts, but gotta think about yourself sometimes, because i had to leave early and d00d had a md, so i told him i didnt wanna bother, blah, blah!!

i always love spreading my rigs' tapes tho, 99% of the time, i say yes

however at red rox trey 01, i got like fuckin 10 dat patchers the first nite along w/ 3-4 md's, well i didnt start a couple md's and i forgot to start the last dat in the cahin, then ppl get pissy cause they left their shit w/ YOU and they dont have a copy, like its your fault, thats the risk you take not knowing someone and being the 10th patcher, afetr that run i said fuck patchers cause i had a crappy time worrying about decks the whole second nite after i took only 8-10 patches total

seems like since i got the v3 and jb3, it totally scares ppl away, i havent given a patch in about a year, since garage a trois

[radioboy1977]

eight words:  run a laptop and a funny looking mic

patch rats look at my rig and get scared!

what's funny is that i have an rca out i can offer, but no one ever asks.

[JAH]

Just run AKG's, they'll never ask for a patch They'll go looking for the heady Schoeps.

   LMAO

back to our regular Question......WHY?  One can always tell the truth (you're a dick and I don't like your looks or, .....patcher.. humph, or sure man but I want to warn you this is trial and error at it's best).
As most people here I'll give a patch when they get there in time and have the cables they need.  Once the recording starts, I don't like to move the bag due to cables may get jostled and I'll tell 'em that too and then point out someone who has their shit spread out all over the place and try to hook them up.

Ya know "some" patchers (not the MD kids) have more experience that one would think and could actually help you if you needed any. vSome  (most) will kick down on some goodies to say thanks for the patch.

Patchers need to have the cables they need for connection, be on time and wait till all is in place before bothering someone who is setting up a rig.  It's all a matter of timing....after Timing Is Everything.

so what's w/ not wanting to give a patch?  You right not to, but wonder what the case may be as to why not?

peace
jah

[MattD]

so what's w/ not wanting to give a patch?  You right not to, but wonder what the case may be as to why not?

Until I had the setup of my laptop rig good enough to do in my sleep, I made patchers wait until I finished setting up. Adding them in the middle of my routine meant I was likely to forget something (like recording to the correct drive with enough space or arming a track or other such computer BS).

Also, as my gear puts out a 24-bit digital signal, I have had some decks have trouble locking to it (no input message), which is always frustrating. I keep 1/4" > RCA adapters in my bag and am more comfortable giving someone an analog patch to their deck or 16-bit A/D just so I don't have to spend 5 minutes figuring out if I'm passing signal correctly or their deck is one that just won't lock.

[John R]

fuck off



j/k  i always have a coax or aes out.  now i have a 12' coax and patchbay that nutter sent me, gets them far away.

jr

[cleantone]

I typically only give one to people who don't seem like they are gonna put it on-line the next day. The reason is I ALWAYS do some post production to recordings and thats what I want circulating. My first question is always "what are you gonna do with the recording"

Most often I just let them patch.

Somtimes I am the patcher. I'll bring my p1 occasionally to show for a patch. I ussually end up knowing the person who I get a patch from but I still look forward to getting turned away some day. That would be a kick!

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I hold up my deck and say, "I'm not sure if I can get a digital output on this..."

Terry

[Todd R]

I'm kinda curious about how to turn folks away since I've recently made it a rule not to patch MDers.  Well, really, not to give analog patches.  I run 3 separate digi outs from my V3 and am happy to accomodate digital patchers.  And if MDer get a CO2 or whatever, I'm happy to deal with them.  I've just had problems in the past with 1/8" mini analog cables going into my bag into my M1 since a slight tug on the mini cable can move the M1 which in turn moves the JB3 and I've had problems with dropouts from the optical cable as it gets moved about.  Getting a good pull for myself is more important to me than accomodating patchers, so I'm not giving analog patches.  I hate feeling like an ass, but if you want a patch for your MD from me, get a Hosa converter of CO2.  

I don't know how to tell MDers that though, and don't generally feel like getting into a long conversation with MDers each time they come up looking for a patch.  Usually I try to get one of my DAT patchers to accomodate them.  I suppose I could start telling them, sure analog patches are fine--you just need XLR cables to get out of my V3.  

[Brian Skalinder]

I suppose I could start telling them, sure analog patches are fine--you just need XLR cables to get out of my V3.  

That's what I do, but with my bag setup I required right-angle XLR cables.