Author Topic: Taping @ the Tower Theater (Read 6603 times)

thoman8r · « **on:** May 12, 2004, 11:56:36 AM »

Anyone here have experience taping at the Tower Theater in Philly? I'll be there for mraz next friday and want to know if anyone has ever run a stand FOB. Mraz's people say I can't because of venue policy, but I wanted to double check. I have 2nd row seats and really don't want to move back to the taper's section.

Dave

ChrisV · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2004, 02:50:14 PM »

Sorry to hijack your thread a bit...
But yeah, I am worried the same thing on Seattle/Portland shows....Mraz is playing these grand seated theatre type places who rarely have any concerts there. I got damn good seats to both but the Seattle one actually has "taper tickets" which are in the middle section but like 30 rows back....no idea how high we will be able to fly stands from there because there are still more rows behind us. And for Portland there wasn't any taper tickets so who knows on that show either(picked up front row of the box seats just to be safe).

Diggin · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2004, 02:54:17 PM »

according to the management for Mraz you can fly as high as the venue allows

Craig T · « **Reply #3 on:** May 12, 2004, 03:15:28 PM »

Tower's taping policy changes with the wind. I've heard of people running stands FOB for bands that allow taping but do not have taper tickets or a tapers section. I've been kicked out for taping FOB and up in the Loge for Phil Lesh where they had a specific taper section set up under the balcony in the last few rows. Last Oct. I ran openly from the front row of the Loge with no problems for SCI even though they had a tapers section under the balcony. A friend did the same the night before.

2nd row may be too close to record from, but maybe trade your ticket back a bit, maybe the 10-12th row, and ask the usher if you're allowed to record from there before setting up. Of course, if you have a stealth (ie. in hat) rig, just run that and don't say a word.

Have fun. If you park on the street, don't forget the meters run until 10 or 11pm. You will get a ticket if you don't feed them.

Craig.

thoman8r · « **Reply #4 on:** May 12, 2004, 06:03:50 PM »

Quote from: Craig T on May 12, 2004, 03:15:28 PM

Tower's taping policy changes with the wind. I've heard of people running stands FOB for bands that allow taping but do not have taper tickets or a tapers section. I've been kicked out for taping FOB and up in the Loge for Phil Lesh where they had a specific taper section set up under the balcony in the last few rows. Last Oct. I ran openly from the front row of the Loge with no problems for SCI even though they had a tapers section under the balcony. A friend did the same the night before.

I get the feeling that I will be shut down trying to tape FOB. Stealth is not an option with my rig. How was taping from the section? I imagine not too good if it was under that overhang. I'm thinking about swapping the 2nd rows for a pair of front row balcony DFC if I can. Think that's a better idea than taping from the section?

Dave

Craig T · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2004, 06:07:35 PM »

Yes, you can try to swap for the balcony, but if they don't let you tape up there you may not be able to get down to the section. I think it sounds better at the front of the Loge than under the balcony where they put most taper sections, especially if they push the section against one of the walls. Its not a bad sounding room, but I'd use hypers if you have them.

steve-o · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2004, 07:03:06 PM »

Quote from: thoman8r on May 12, 2004, 11:56:36 AM

Anyone here have experience taping at the Tower Theater in Philly? I'll be there for mraz next friday and want to know if anyone has ever run a stand FOB. Mraz's people say I can't because of venue policy, but I wanted to double check. I have 2nd row seats and really don't want to move back to the taper's section.

Dave

Dave,

I taped Damien Rice at the Tower a few months back, and had no problems until halfway through the set. I got the gear in, up, and was running it for almost an hour before I heard anything. So it's hit or miss.

Also, I'll be right next to you if you're there. I have pit seats, 3rd row. PM me when you get the chance and we can figure something out to get all our "stuff" in.

Steve

herrmann2burn · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2004, 10:16:32 PM »

I recorded WSP at the Tower and if you are in the center Loge section, there is a ledge infront of some of the first row that if you have a small 1-2 foot stand, would work perfectly. You can run it from there and not have to worry about the tight space with the seats.
If you dont have a small stand, i suggest bringing some long cables and a clamp.
~Rhys

Diggin · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2004, 10:44:16 PM »

I will be taping mraz friday so I can let you know what the crowd might be like since it is supposed to be a Jason solo show

fsulloway · « **Reply #9 on:** May 13, 2004, 11:50:46 AM »

I taped Panic fob there last April with no problems. We handheld for about two songs then put the stand up head high. Put some speaker cloth over the mics and we were good to go.

thoman8r · « **Reply #10 on:** May 13, 2004, 01:27:10 PM »

are the stacks on the floor or are they elevated?

+T to everyone in this thread for their help

thoman8r · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2004, 01:29:48 PM »

Quote from: ChrisV on May 12, 2004, 02:50:14 PM

And for Portland there wasn't any taper tickets so who knows on that show either(picked up front row of the box seats just to be safe).

FYI - you have to get taper tickets directly from Mraz's management.

steve-o · « **Reply #12 on:** May 13, 2004, 03:40:38 PM »

Quote from: thoman8r on May 13, 2004, 01:29:48 PM

Quote from: ChrisV on May 12, 2004, 02:50:14 PM
And for Portland there wasn't any taper tickets so who knows on that show either(picked up front row of the box seats just to be safe).

FYI - you have to get taper tickets directly from Mraz's management.

So my seats do me no good for taping the show?

ChrisV · « **Reply #13 on:** May 13, 2004, 03:46:50 PM »

Quote from: thoman8r on May 13, 2004, 01:29:48 PM

Quote from: ChrisV on May 12, 2004, 02:50:14 PM
And for Portland there wasn't any taper tickets so who knows on that show either(picked up front row of the box seats just to be safe).

FYI - you have to get taper tickets directly from Mraz's management.

Hmm, oh really? I thought they'd have put them up through Musictoday like they did for the Seattle show if available. I guess I'll try to get in contact with management and/or venue to double check. For now Ryan(olyrc) and I were planning to take over a box section(which is the first row of the balcony) and create our own little taping section.

Diggin · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2004, 04:22:53 PM »

Quote from: thoman8r on May 13, 2004, 01:29:48 PM

FYI - you have to get taper tickets directly from Mraz's management.

You don't have too, it is only if you want to tape and didn't get a chance to get a ticket. They want the "large rigs" to be in the taper section but if you have a better seat they don't really care

pnobles · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2004, 04:32:12 PM »

the tower had 2 hanging stacks, that was as of april 15.

thoman8r · « **Reply #16 on:** May 14, 2004, 01:02:38 AM »

Quote from: Diggin on May 13, 2004, 04:22:53 PM

Quote from: thoman8r on May 13, 2004, 01:29:48 PM
FYI - you have to get taper tickets directly from Mraz's management.

You don't have too, it is only if you want to tape and didn't get a chance to get a ticket. They want the "large rigs" to be in the taper section but if you have a better seat they don't really care

I know. I was merely saying that if you wanted a taper ticket, you have to get it directly through their management, you can't get it through normal means. You can still tape from your seat, but whether you can run a full rig remains to be seen. I guess I'll let you guys know after next Friday.

Diggin · « **Reply #17 on:** May 14, 2004, 09:47:34 AM »

Did you get taper tickets from the management? For me I tried and Jason's management dropped the ball and the venue offered me back right corner first level no stands/clamps/etc allowed. I would suggest getting your own ticket since the management doesn't seem to have good communication with the venues this tour, they said the next one will be better

thoman8r · « **Reply #18 on:** May 14, 2004, 10:01:36 AM »

Quote from: Diggin on May 14, 2004, 09:47:34 AM

Did you get taper tickets from the management? For me I tried and Jason's management dropped the ball and the venue offered me back right corner first level no stands/clamps/etc allowed. I would suggest getting your own ticket since the management doesn't seem to have good communication with the venues this tour, they said the next one will be better

No I got 2nd row seats through ticketmaster. Right now the plan is to try to

A.) tape with stand at full height from 2nd row
B.) tape with stand at head height from 2nd row
C.) trade back to the front row of the balcony and tape from there
D.) Tell Mraz's management and the Tower to go fuck themselves

Diggin · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2004, 11:23:05 AM »

A. Good Call
B. shouldn't have to but another idea
C. Good luck if you have too
D. I will be doing that tonight but with the Orpheum instead of the Tower

dmbtradeforall · « **Reply #20 on:** May 15, 2004, 07:11:53 PM »

do they allow tripod/mic stands in the balcony? ill be filing from the first row balcony, but worried ill be able to get my tripod up there

pnobles · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2004, 07:45:51 PM »

dave, dont forget plan E) pat's kangol

thoman8r · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2004, 07:48:00 PM »

Quote from: Diggin on May 14, 2004, 11:23:05 AM

D. I will be doing that tonight but with the Orpheum instead of the Tower

How'd it go?

thoman8r · « **Reply #23 on:** May 15, 2004, 07:49:05 PM »

Quote from: pnobles on May 15, 2004, 07:45:51 PM

dave, dont forget plan E) pat's kangol

Yeah I made that list before we talked. I'd almost consider rigging something for my mg's but since I only have hyper caps, I don't think that'd work out too well.

pnobles · « **Reply #24 on:** May 16, 2004, 04:35:51 PM »

we can run the 184s ( in hat ) > brick > sbm if we have to. the show is the 21st peter

Diggin · « **Reply #25 on:** May 16, 2004, 10:19:25 PM »

well I just got back home, no good internet access/time in mineeapolis.

Mraz's crew could care less what you do, the venue knew about taping and that is about it, the did a light search of the bag for video equipment and sent me though. The crowd was awesome, very quiet during the songs and very little yelling.

Be sure to tape the openers, Makana and Raul are really good. I don't think they are on the archive but I will be happy to help BT and download from my server if there is a demand.

You should be fine with whatever, but if you have problems Tim Krieg is the Tour Manager and Dan Wise is the soundboard guy

pnobles · « **Reply #26 on:** May 17, 2004, 08:34:18 AM »

very helpful. thanks

also - was there not a whole lot of screaming 14 year old girls? whoooah, i was fearing that...

Diggin · « **Reply #27 on:** May 17, 2004, 10:11:55 AM »

very few if, maybe once or twice that I heard. I was very surprised.
I will have a few songs from the opener available, it is all I taped before my shit stopped -- long story.

pnobles · « **Reply #28 on:** May 17, 2004, 10:18:23 AM »

did you run a stand at head hight? just wondering...and would like to hear the opener if you have some clips thanks

Diggin · « **Reply #29 on:** May 17, 2004, 10:21:49 AM »

I had no one in front of me and I sat it on the ledge in front of me, about 2 feet high. It was only my SP AT853s so it isn't the quality that should have been done

Diggin · « **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2004, 03:03:38 PM »

I have it on my server, PM me for the location info