Topic: busted recording at a show--what should I do?

[rdflash]

dude i got popped 5th row center at a dylan show by some tooley who didn't even have a floor ticket.. he ratted on me because he wanted my seat...the venue security tried to take my gear when i demanded he get a local police officer and have him take the gear the heat was off...after the show he came back up to me and was like dude wheres the tape wheres the recorder i told him i did not know what he was taking about and left with him following me still harassing me...when i got to the door around a bunch of cops i politely said loudly dude i am sorry i do not want to buy any pot from you...heat off forever...cops talked to him...got away with a crisp recording of dylan with some interesting banter
+TT for you troubles

there should be a tapers hall of fame for such jedi master mind control techniques, and sayings!

when i got to the door around a bunch of cops i politely said loudly dude i am sorry i do not want to buy any pot from you...heat off forever...cops talked to him...got away with a crisp recording of dylan with some interesting banter

Great Idea +T

[terrapinj]

did you try to tell them that PJ allows taping? i know they have an odd policy but the fact that they allow it may be enough to get them to stop hassling you. shity situation either way. if you have someone else with you i'd rig them up with the gear for the next show and take a night off to scope out the scene, however I would bet that you are free and clear and that the PJ crew has no clue of what even went on last night.

[John R]

you'r from florida, screw the forum.  even if you go back, how would they know.  i'd go back for sport(without rig)

[Patrick]

...+T for your troubles, will this help next time (w/croakie mounts?)?

 

[sunjan]

hello, I was caught taping a show tonight, they escorted me to the back and took my name and address, picture of me,picture of my rig, and said I am never to come back to the LA forum again. oh yeah they erased my flashcard.

4. Deos this mean that I am a marked man for this particular band?

Two things come to my mind:
 - If you want to play safe, change your appearance next time you go to the Forum. Grow a beard, hair coloring, sunglasses. But as it have been said, the guards have to usher thousands of people, they can't be bothered memorizing faces.
 - Try to do an Undelete/Unerase of the flashcard once you get home after the gig. It makes sense always bringing two cards for a gig, if they force you to erase your recording mid-gig, in best case scenario you might be able to continue taping later on, and don't risk overwriting the music that still is stored latent on the first card.

+T for better luck next time.

/Jan

[SparkE!]

hello, I was caught taping a show tonight, they escorted me to the back and took my name and address, picture of me,picture of my rig, and said I am never to come back to the LA forum again. oh yeah they erased my flashcard.

4. Deos this mean that I am a marked man for this particular band?

Two things come to my mind:
 - If you want to play safe, change your appearance next time you go to the Forum. Grow a beard, hair coloring, sunglasses. But as it have been said, the guards have to usher thousands of people, they can't be bothered memorizing faces.
 - Try to do an Undelete/Unerase of the flashcard once you get home after the gig. It makes sense always bringing two cards for a gig, if they force you to erase your recording mid-gig, in best case scenario you might be able to continue taping later on, and don't risk overwriting the music that still is stored latent on the first card.

+T for better luck next time.

/Jan

Erasing a flash card actually programs the erased area back to bytes whose values are all 0xFF (all 1's).  It's not like erasing a hard drive where they just modify the file allocation table rather than actually erasing the information.  In the case of a flash card, the information itself is erased.

[Chill]

Can they really do this, I mean if he just tried to leave the venue could they really legally stop him.  If they touch you that’s assault, right?

[joekar]

You got caught red handed and did not do the honorable task of taking your own life.....Couldn't find your cyanide capsule ?....Your hari-kari dagger at the cleaners.....And you call your self a taper !!!!!!!!

Just kidding..

Don't sweat it dude.......they threw out your

 info as soon as you left.....it's all about scare tactics and control....You pissed them off buy taping....they could not really do anything accept ask you to leave...so they tried to scare the crap out of you....I bet if you walked you to the guys that busted you today they would not even recognize you.......

Go to the other shows and have a great time.....don't worry about it.........You may, however, be on double secret probation .....if this is the case....only Dean Wormer holds the answer...(see link for wav)


Peace,
jk

[Wiggler]

It does seem questionable regarding the federal anti-bootleg statute that also covers recording of live performances.
It looks as if laws are in place just not enforced.
See attached link.
http://www.grayzone.com/faqindex.htm

[rdflash]

did you try to tell them that PJ allows taping? i know they have an odd policy but the fact that they allow it may be enough to get them to stop hassling you. shity situation either way. if you have someone else with you i'd rig them up with the gear for the next show and take a night off to scope out the scene, however I would bet that you are free and clear and that the PJ crew has no clue of what even went on last night.

heck, I got flac (and not the flac tapers like) for taping O.A.R. on sunday.

and they allow everything.

[pfife]

dude i got popped 5th row center at a dylan show by some tooley who didn't even have a floor ticket.. he ratted on me because he wanted my seat...the venue security tried to take my gear when i demanded he get a local police officer and have him take the gear the heat was off...after the show he came back up to me and was like dude wheres the tape wheres the recorder i told him i did not know what he was taking about and left with him following me still harassing me...when i got to the door around a bunch of cops i politely said loudly dude i am sorry i do not want to buy any pot from you...heat off forever...cops talked to him...got away with a crisp recording of dylan with some interesting banter
+TT for you troubles

If you're telling the troof, that's awesome.  If you're telling a lie, its a great idea.  +T

[pfife]

did you try to tell them that PJ allows taping? i know they have an odd policy but the fact that they allow it may be enough to get them to stop hassling you. shity situation either way. if you have someone else with you i'd rig them up with the gear for the next show and take a night off to scope out the scene, however I would bet that you are free and clear and that the PJ crew has no clue of what even went on last night.

heck, I got flac (and not the flac tapers like) for taping O.A.R. on sunday.

and they allow everything.

you're about to get a lot more flac for admitting that you actually went to an O.A.R. show too...

[macdaddy]

hypothetical - what if, when ushering you out, after catching you in the act, venue crew doesnt allow you to leave..? now they know you were using the gear, and they have you..? just curious, as that kind of sh*t can and does happen...

[tfs8271]

You got caught red handed and did not do the honorable task of taking your own life.....Couldn't find your cyanide capsule ?....Your hari-kari dagger at the cleaners.....And you call your self a taper !!!!!!!!

Just kidding..

Don't sweat it dude.......they threw out your

 info as soon as you left.....it's all about scare tactics and control....You pissed them off buy taping....they could not really do anything accept ask you to leave...so they tried to scare the crap out of you....I bet if you walked you to the guys that busted you today they would not even recognize you.......

Go to the other shows and have a great time.....don't worry about it.........You may, however, be on double secret probation .....if this is the case....only Dean Wormer holds the answer...(see link for wav)


Peace,
jk

Great wave file....I have that attached to my wifes incoming emails!


I wouldn't let them take my picture.

[balou2]

...and look at it this way.  Even if EVERY SINGLE venue employee had a picture of you in their hand at Santa Barbara, AND they were looking for you, the chances of them pulling you out of a crowd of PJ fans is slim.  You'd probably have a better chance getting a hummer from a lesbian.

Seriously, don't worry about it.  It certainly is a stressful situation, and I don't envy your having to go through it, but you'll be just fine for the next shows. 

TIP OF THE DAY: Don't look like you're miserable when you're stealthing.  I can often pick the folks in a crowd just by their drab, bored looking stare.  Smile, look stoned, and enjoy your tape!