Topic: busted recording at a show--what should I do?

[shaggy]

TIP OF THE DAY: Don't look like you're miserable when you're stealthing.  I can often pick the folks in a crowd just by their drab, bored looking stare.  Smile, look stoned, and enjoy your tape!

This is the best advice, ever.  If you are not enjoying yourself, then why the hell are you doing it?  I never drink before a big stealth job, only a puff or two.  Perfect glow, a little rocking back and forth never hurts.  I also do the 'stiff neck twist'....the head stays still and the body rotates.  Try it at home in front of a mirror, it is easy to do and it saves your neck as well as disguises your true intention which is to keep your head still.

[dunebug81]

Next time some security guard starts to stare at you wink and blow him a kiss.

[joekar]

Next time some security guard starts to stare at you wink and blow him a kiss.

Yeah, ya never know...you might get lucky...

[bluntforcetrauma]

i just thought since there was LA forum security and LAPD that i would be polite to the police because i dont know the rules.  so basically i can just say i want to leave-even to the police and just walk out-saying they cant hold me against my will--

So they cant even take pictures? I have the right to say no?

and leave?

thanks in advance

[balou2]

i just thought since there was LA forum security and LAPD that i would be polite to the police because i dont know the rules.  so basically i can just say i want to leave-even to the police and just walk out-saying they cant hold me against my will--

So they cant even take pictures? I have the right to say no?

and leave?

thanks in advance

They cannot touch your gear...period.  They may try to intimidate you, and throw some fancy words and jive at you, but they cannot do it.  They DO have the right to boot you, but that's a different story.

[svenkid]

waitva sec, shouldnt you be at the show right now, not poisting on ts about last night.
how did they get you to erase the stuff off the card? did they make YOU do it? or did THEY know how to do it and did it?

[Sebastian]

hypothetical - what if, when ushering you out, after catching you in the act, venue crew doesnt allow you to leave..?

Call the cops.

[tapeheadtoo]

TIP OF THE DAY: Don't look like you're miserable when you're stealthing.  I can often pick the folks in a crowd just by their drab, bored looking stare.  Smile, look stoned, and enjoy your tape!

This is the best advice, ever.  If you are not enjoying yourself, then why the hell are you doing it?  I never drink before a big stealth job, only a puff or two.  Perfect glow, a little rocking back and forth never hurts.  I also do the 'stiff neck twist'....the head stays still and the body rotates.  Try it at home in front of a mirror, it is easy to do and it saves your neck as well as disguises your true intention which is to keep your head still.

Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've been stealthing for years with mics clipped to my glasses, done the head-bopping thing and never had a problem with the end result.  I've found that turning my head to the side more than 45 degrees has a definite effect with the omnis, but bopping up and down seems to be okay.  As long as you keep the amplitude only a few inches.   

[pfife]

TIP OF THE DAY: Don't look like you're miserable when you're stealthing.  I can often pick the folks in a crowd just by their drab, bored looking stare.  Smile, look stoned, and enjoy your tape!

This is the best advice, ever.  If you are not enjoying yourself, then why the hell are you doing it?  I never drink before a big stealth job, only a puff or two.  Perfect glow, a little rocking back and forth never hurts.  I also do the 'stiff neck twist'....the head stays still and the body rotates.  Try it at home in front of a mirror, it is easy to do and it saves your neck as well as disguises your true intention which is to keep your head still.

Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've been stealthing for years with mics clipped to my glasses, done the head-bopping thing and never had a problem with the end result.  I've found that turning my head to the side more than 45 degrees has a definite effect with the omnis, but bopping up and down seems to be okay.  As long as you keep the amplitude only a few inches.   

Concur

[zhianosatch]

TIP OF THE DAY: Don't look like you're miserable when you're stealthing.  I can often pick the folks in a crowd just by their drab, bored looking stare.  Smile, look stoned, and enjoy your tape!

This is the best advice, ever.  If you are not enjoying yourself, then why the hell are you doing it?  I never drink before a big stealth job, only a puff or two.  Perfect glow, a little rocking back and forth never hurts.  I also do the 'stiff neck twist'....the head stays still and the body rotates.  Try it at home in front of a mirror, it is easy to do and it saves your neck as well as disguises your true intention which is to keep your head still.

Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've been stealthing for years with mics clipped to my glasses, done the head-bopping thing and never had a problem with the end result.  I've found that turning my head to the side more than 45 degrees has a definite effect with the omnis, but bopping up and down seems to be okay.  As long as you keep the amplitude only a few inches.   

Concur

disagree... but it's ok.

[macdaddy]

hey - the dutchman chimes in!!!



i agree with z. 100% - most all movement is audible. sometimes it is not too distracting, sometimes it is barely noticeable, but it almost always is audible, to some degree...

what you wanna do is learn the hippy shake, where the body does its thang, but the head stays still 

[dank]

if youre tall enough, collar mounted omnis are nice... buddy who is 6'6' does this so he can move his head around during the show.

standing still doesnt really bother me.... im there to watch whats going on on stage anyhow, not look around the place.

puffs pre & during show have been a stealth requirement for me, for many years tho

[pfife]

TIP OF THE DAY: Don't look like you're miserable when you're stealthing.  I can often pick the folks in a crowd just by their drab, bored looking stare.  Smile, look stoned, and enjoy your tape!

This is the best advice, ever.  If you are not enjoying yourself, then why the hell are you doing it?  I never drink before a big stealth job, only a puff or two.  Perfect glow, a little rocking back and forth never hurts.  I also do the 'stiff neck twist'....the head stays still and the body rotates.  Try it at home in front of a mirror, it is easy to do and it saves your neck as well as disguises your true intention which is to keep your head still.

Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've been stealthing for years with mics clipped to my glasses, done the head-bopping thing and never had a problem with the end result.  I've found that turning my head to the side more than 45 degrees has a definite effect with the omnis, but bopping up and down seems to be okay.  As long as you keep the amplitude only a few inches.   

Concur

disagree... but it's ok.

i agree with z. 100% - most all movement is audible. sometimes it is not too distracting, sometimes it is barely noticeable, but it almost always is audible, to some degree...

I wonder if my playback just isn't sufficient...   My experiece thus far is that vertical head movement is nbd, and horizontal is bad news... strange.

[rdflash]

My thoughts on Pearl Jam's recording policy

Audio Recording
Small, handheld recording devices welcome.
No feed from soundboard.
No large, professional audio equipment.
No boom mics.
No external mics.

So basically you are using the internal mic on an Iriver, etc.

Thats gonna sound like shit, what are you gonna do, hold it over your head the whole show, or stick it in your pocket and get muffled sounds, or leave it on the floor and have somebody step on it maybe.

Anyways, its not even a taping policy, its almost like your forced to buy their LIVE CDS mp3 or flac over the internet.

Monopoly tactics = BS

they basically allow no taping if you read that and your gonna buy their tapes (if you follow those rules)

- T for Pearl Jam

[OFOTD]

If I can at all come to their defense.  The live cd's that they offer are as good as it gets.  They make Instant Live look like shit.  The shows are usually up for download or purchase within 24 hours and never more than a week.  The show gets a proper after the fact mixdown for the cd's and they are only $10 compared to IL's $25 price tag.

I also know what the policy says but I have also witnessed rigs there as well as I think it comes down to more of how each venue decides to interpret and/or enforce the policy.  The last show I was at a few years back a couple of tapers had run one stand on the back corner of the board without problem.