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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #135 on: December 02, 2014, 02:58:23 PM »
That thing is TINY :) ;D I will definitely grab one of these after I pay off my NBob KCY ;) I can FINALLY have some control over each channel since my vms02ib just has ONE gain knob 8) ;D And I already have the perfect bag for it ;)

Now I cant wait to hear this thing in action ;D If it's ADC is anywhere as good as the m10s is, then I will be a very happy tapir lol ;) ;D 8) I'd really like to hear some Schoeps>Preamp>70D, so that I can get a feel for what it sounds like! And my buddy, Jon Merin, is supposed to buy a 70D tomorrow, so soon enough I'll hear some Schoeps>Lemosax/TinyBox>70D sources :) ;D 8)I'll ask Jon Merin to run mk4/mk41>KCY>Lemosax>70D + Lemosax>M10, so that we have a real time comp against the m10 vs. the 70D. Now THAT is a comp I can't wait to hear ;)

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Umm, hell yeah lol ;D 8) Like we talked about in our texts, I am DYING to hear the m10 vs. the 70D ADC!!! If you can run TinyBox>70D + Tinybox>M10, if your TB has [2] outputs ;) If it DOESN'T have [2] outputs, then I'd like to see you run Lemosax>70D + Lemosax>M10, so that we can hear exactly what the 70D's ADC sounds like, since we already know what the M10s ADC sounds like ;) That would surely put it to rest. And since I know your Lemosax has [2] outputs, then it should be very easy to do ;) 8)

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #136 on: December 02, 2014, 07:46:42 PM »
Got to record a set of Dead Winter Carpenters using the new deck last night.  I really think it sounds very nice. I had to leave after the first set but I should have it upped to LMA by tomorrow.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #137 on: December 02, 2014, 08:00:38 PM »
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #138 on: December 03, 2014, 04:45:25 PM »
http://youtu.be/sumvSK8awyQ

Here is a quick vid with the matrix recording I made with the DR-70D on Monday night.  Will have some time to do some comparing, testing, this week.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #139 on: December 03, 2014, 08:29:51 PM »
http://youtu.be/sumvSK8awyQ

Here is a quick vid with the matrix recording I made with the DR-70D on Monday night.  Will have some time to do some comparing, testing, this week.
I assume the files lined up perfect with the same clock
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #140 on: December 03, 2014, 08:42:04 PM »
http://youtu.be/sumvSK8awyQ

Here is a quick vid with the matrix recording I made with the DR-70D on Monday night.  Will have some time to do some comparing, testing, this week.
I assume the files lined up perfect with the same clock

Yes...Clock Synced

Dead Winter Carpenters set from Monday night:

https://archive.org/details/dwc2014-12-01.matrix.flac
« Last Edit: December 03, 2014, 08:51:20 PM by Cheesecadet »
AKG 481's, DPA 4061's (Matched), AT ES933's w/ AT853-ELE's (SC/C/O), ECM-19B's, MixPre-3, A10, M10 x 2, Hi Ho Silvers, Various Darktrain & GAKables

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #141 on: December 04, 2014, 08:58:13 AM »
Did you mix the sources on the fly?
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #142 on: December 04, 2014, 09:43:51 AM »
Did you mix the sources on the fly?

Nope because I didn't have headphones with.  It was also just my first trial run with the deck so I just wanted to be sure I got everything going correctly and work out any kinks before I take the deck out to some other shows this month.

I don't know that I would ever want to mix the show on the fly anyway.  I kind of like to tweak the recordings in post when I am at home in a quiet environment instead of a raucous show.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #143 on: December 04, 2014, 10:38:22 AM »
Did you mix the sources on the fly?

It is rarely a great idea to mix on the fly unless your mics are on-stage becuase there will be a time dealy (the clock is still synced).
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #144 on: December 04, 2014, 11:29:34 AM »
I recently used a cheapo set of earbuds to adjust my levels, and the results were good.   Unlike headphones, they tend to have pretty good isolation and don't stand out. 

 I have seen the Shure SE215 earbuds recommended because of their clarity and isolation.  Adorama has them on sale for $89.  However, I went cheap and ordered a set of Vsonic's from Lendmeurears.com for something like $30.  Not here yet to report on.  They were also on sale. 

We carry everything else.  What more is it to carry a good set of earbuds?  Seriously.  Try it. 

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #145 on: December 04, 2014, 11:37:29 AM »
Did you mix the sources on the fly?

It is rarely a great idea to mix on the fly unless your mics are on-stage becuase there will be a time dealy (the clock is still synced).

I have never noticed delay when running two sets of mics on the same stand at the back of a room by the soundboard areas
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #146 on: December 04, 2014, 11:42:51 AM »
If the two sets of mics are on the same stand, there won't be any delay. 

There would be delay if running one set of mics on a stand 100 feet back while picking up a SB feed from the stage, however.


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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #147 on: December 04, 2014, 12:20:06 PM »
If the two sets of mics are on the same stand, there won't be any delay. 

There would be delay if running one set of mics on a stand 100 feet back while picking up a SB feed from the stage, however.

True.  Isn't the conversion basically 1 millisecond of delay for each foot back from stage the mics are placed. That is what I have always heard.  Any insight to this?
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #148 on: December 04, 2014, 01:38:01 PM »
That's my understanding as well that it's 1ms per foot.  http://www.recordinginstitute.com/da154/ARP/chap3Sig/0304delcor.html

I'm guessing the 70d has a delay compensation in the menu like the 60d or it can be adjusted in your DAW by nudging the tracks as needed. 


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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder for DSLR cameras
« Reply #149 on: December 04, 2014, 01:53:42 PM »
Yes 70d has the delay feature. I imagine getting it dialed in at the show on the unit would be ideal instead of fiddling with the DAW later as long as you pace off the distance from PA to mics.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2014, 04:55:03 PM by Cheesecadet »
AKG 481's, DPA 4061's (Matched), AT ES933's w/ AT853-ELE's (SC/C/O), ECM-19B's, MixPre-3, A10, M10 x 2, Hi Ho Silvers, Various Darktrain & GAKables

Vinyl:
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