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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand(pics)
« Reply #135 on: June 25, 2010, 04:38:08 PM »
:drool:

Yeah. To me, it definately does force bigger setups to make a better argument as far as quality:result ratio is concerned. Is the advantage of an SD722 really worth the size compare to a TB>M10? Dunno, and it depends on the situation, but the position for using a smaller setup has definately gained a weapon in the argument.

Can't speak for the 722, but the R-44/DR-680/SD788 still have a pretty solid argument for them if you like 4 channel. 

Otherwise, using a 722 or similarly pricey deck may represent its own kind of Kool-Aid  >:D
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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand(pics)
« Reply #136 on: June 25, 2010, 04:48:55 PM »
Yeah. To me, it definately does force bigger setups to make a better argument as far as quality:result ratio is concerned. Is the advantage of an SD722 really worth the size compare to a TB>M10?

That's several questions...   One is M10 vs. 722.  The other is CMR's.  And yet another is TB performance and features.

One issue with the CMR is that it has no CMR.  Balanced cables are important around the stage, around dimmers, and on longer cable runs.   I've had my schoeps overload on extremely loud material... So I still have some concerns regarding how the 48v polarization voltage will impact sound quality and mic behavior.


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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand(pics)
« Reply #137 on: June 25, 2010, 05:11:07 PM »
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Balanced cables are important around the stage, around dimmers, and on longer cable runs
I have to admit in these situations I run the cmc6's
Schoeps MK4-MK41>cmc6/Nbob actives/Naiant LB/Naiant TB > Sony M10/PMD620

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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand(pics)
« Reply #138 on: June 25, 2010, 05:25:00 PM »
Just ordered CMR's, will be shipped next week  8)
Ordered my Tinybox from Jon a few days ago as well.

It will be interesting to comp the nbox side by side with this rig
on the same material going into the same recorder.

Size vs quality will always be debated, but when i am allowed to tape
i run schoeps caps > cmc6 > V-3 > AD2K+ > R-44 digi-in
Sometimes i run the nbox for the convenience of a smaller rig, but i know
for the highest quality i need my full rig.
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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand(pics)
« Reply #139 on: June 26, 2010, 12:38:15 AM »
Dammit, that's sexy as hell.

Schoeps stuff always confuses me. I know this has been beaten to death elsewhere on the board, but what caps do you run with the CMRs? Does it take the Colette series caps? What's an approximate price of caps + CMRs for this setup? Damned tempting. Not that I need it, but toy lust is ever-present.  ;D  And I'm diggin' the size of the Littlebox.
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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand(pics)
« Reply #140 on: June 26, 2010, 08:46:56 AM »
Dammit, that's sexy as hell.

Schoeps stuff always confuses me. I know this has been beaten to death elsewhere on the board, but what caps do you run with the CMRs? Does it take the Colette series caps? What's an approximate price of caps + CMRs for this setup? Damned tempting. Not that I need it, but toy lust is ever-present.  ;D  And I'm diggin' the size of the Littlebox.


Yes, you can use any Schoeps Colette series caps.


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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand(pics)
« Reply #141 on: June 26, 2010, 10:05:55 AM »
Just ordered CMR's, will be shipped next week  8)
Ordered my Tinybox from Jon a few days ago as well.

It will be interesting to comp the nbox side by side with this rig
on the same material going into the same recorder.


^
Looking forward to hearing the comp Ed!

Looks great Jon & Robb!!
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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand - First show up on LMA now
« Reply #142 on: June 26, 2010, 09:25:43 PM »
ok, ran the maiden Tinybox show last night for Ween(big thanks to Kobi(liveween) for the hookup), not going to be the greatest recording due to the fact that its the Aragon and we were pretty much forced to run FOB, but none the less you have to start somewhere and there were 4 other setups ran so hopefully those get upped so we can see some comps. also just a couple rig pics for fun.

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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand - First show up on LMA now
« Reply #143 on: June 26, 2010, 10:11:22 PM »
The size comparison between the contents of the 2 rig bags says a lot. That's nice and small.
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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand - First show up on LMA now
« Reply #144 on: June 26, 2010, 10:36:17 PM »
would the only reason FOB would be a problem be the mk41's?
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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand - First show up on LMA now
« Reply #145 on: June 26, 2010, 11:13:18 PM »
would the only reason FOB would be a problem be the mk41's?
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na, it sounded bad in there, they got it dialed in a bit after a few songs but that venue has a sweet spot the size of a gnats ass and FOB ain't it ;D

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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand - First show up on LMA now
« Reply #146 on: June 27, 2010, 08:09:51 AM »
but that venue has a sweet spot the size of a gnats ass and FOB ain't it ;D

The Aragon has a sweet spot?  :P
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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand - First show up on LMA now
« Reply #147 on: June 27, 2010, 10:11:46 AM »
The size comparison between the contents of the 2 rig bags says a lot. That's nice and small.

it speaks volumes!
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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand - First show up on LMA now
« Reply #148 on: June 27, 2010, 12:55:49 PM »
but that venue has a sweet spot the size of a gnats ass and FOB ain't it ;D

The Aragon has a sweet spot?  :P

not from what i have seen/heard but legend has it you found it once Brian :P

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Re: NEW Schoeps CMR Rig - Tinybox is IN Hand - First show up on LMA now
« Reply #149 on: June 27, 2010, 08:17:54 PM »
The size comparison between the contents of the 2 rig bags says a lot. That's nice and small.

it speaks volumes!

but you have to admit that the Portico has a sexiness factor that could never be pocket sized...and the rack ears give you something to grip.
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