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Title: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: Nick Graham on October 30, 2006, 11:54:42 AM
I've seached and searched in both this forum and the Recording Gear board, and everything is a bit overwhelming.

Last night after several months of foolproof use I finally ran into the dreaded R09 bad file problem.

When I try and open the file on my Imac in Spark XL I get the "Corrupted File" message. When I switch to my PC laptop and try CD Wav I get the "Cannot Open Riff Chunk - Not A Valid Wav" error.

Can someone give me (or point me to a thread) a simple walkthrough for fixing the header? Preferably on a Mac, but I'd use anything at this point.

HUGE thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: rePat on October 30, 2006, 12:28:35 PM
In windows, I use Gordon Gidluck's audiohack.exe to fix bad headers.  It is designed to split large (>2GB) files, but also repairs headers.  It's a free program.

http://www.gidluckmastering.com/audiohck.zip

Good Luck,

Pat
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: Patrick on October 30, 2006, 12:31:59 PM
I also recorded a corrupted file the other night on the h120, and like Nick, am running a Mac system, so we're in the same boat it seems.

The thing is, the file plays back fine in the standard iriver firmware, but not in rockbox, so I know it's just a simple fix and not a damaged file or anything.
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on October 30, 2006, 12:35:11 PM
Can't help you much because of the mac but maybe your salvation can be found here:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0

It hasn't been ported to the mac yet.. Should be trivial. Maybe someone with a mac can help?

Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: gewwang on October 30, 2006, 12:41:58 PM
I haven't tried this yet but it worked for china_rider:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=70753.msg976895#msg976895
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: Nick Graham on October 30, 2006, 01:19:57 PM
First of all, +Ts all the way around.

In windows, I use Gordon Gidluck's audiohack.exe to fix bad headers.  It is designed to split large (>2GB) files, but also repairs headers.  It's a free program.

http://www.gidluckmastering.com/audiohck.zip

Good Luck,

Pat

I've got the program open, what do I need to do now? I'm a complete novice at any type of DOS or script.

Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: pigiron on October 30, 2006, 01:43:35 PM
Nick - if you can run on windoze, can you give my utility at http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0 (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0) a try?

Your situation is exactly why I created the bugger and I'd sure like some "real world" feedback on how well it works (or not). If it doesn't work, I'd like to get my hands on a copy of the file so I can modify the program.
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: Patrick on October 30, 2006, 01:45:41 PM
Nick - if you can run on windoze, can you give my utility at http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0 (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0) a try?

Your situation is exactly why I created the bugger and I'd sure like some "real world" feedback on how well it works (or not). If it doesn't work, I'd like to get my hands on a copy of the file so I can modify the program.

I'll give it a try tonight on a friend's PC.  I'll report back here. Thanks for the link!

Nick, don't you have an intel mac?  can't you run bootcamp?  are have you already done that?
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: Nick Graham on October 30, 2006, 01:52:39 PM
Nick - if you can run on windoze, can you give my utility at http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0 (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0) a try?

Your situation is exactly why I created the bugger and I'd sure like some "real world" feedback on how well it works (or not). If it doesn't work, I'd like to get my hands on a copy of the file so I can modify the program.

I'm running Windows in Virtual PC mode, and it looks like your program is exactly what I want.

One issue though...I'll click on the program, and the DOS box appears and disappears pretty much instantly. What the...?
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: rePat on October 30, 2006, 02:03:33 PM
First of all, +Ts all the way around.

In windows, I use Gordon Gidluck's audiohack.exe to fix bad headers.  It is designed to split large (>2GB) files, but also repairs headers.  It's a free program.

http://www.gidluckmastering.com/audiohck.zip

Good Luck,

Pat

I've got the program open, what do I need to do now? I'm a complete novice at any type of DOS or script.



I usually put it in the same directory that the damaged file is in, run the .exe, it will ask for the file name, enter it, it will ask for output filename1, and filename2.  It will execute and you should have those files in the directory when finished.

Pat

Edit:  This is all done from a command (DOS) window.
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: Nick Graham on October 30, 2006, 02:08:33 PM
FWIW, I'm still trying to master all the "home brew" methods, but I just got the file open in Cool Edit Pro (totally forgot I even had that installed on my old laptop).

Looks like I should be able to successfully save it, and then edit/process like normal.

Thanks to everyone for all their help...everyone has already been +Td, and will be again in 12.


Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: pigiron on October 30, 2006, 02:11:26 PM
Nick - if you can run on windoze, can you give my utility at http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0 (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0) a try?

Your situation is exactly why I created the bugger and I'd sure like some "real world" feedback on how well it works (or not). If it doesn't work, I'd like to get my hands on a copy of the file so I can modify the program.

I'm running Windows in Virtual PC mode, and it looks like your program is exactly what I want.

One issue though...I'll click on the program, and the DOS box appears and disappears pretty much instantly. What the...?


That's just windows being dumb... if you click "Start" then click "Run" and then enter "cmd.exe", it will open up a DOS box... then "cd" to the directory that contains "fixwav" and enter "fixwav your_file_path"... where "your_file_path" is the BACKUP copy of the audio file.  Example:  fixwav C:\foo\bad.wav.
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: tapeworm48 on November 02, 2006, 01:03:55 PM
FWIW, I'm still trying to master all the "home brew" methods, but I just got the file open in Cool Edit Pro (totally forgot I even had that installed on my old laptop).

Looks like I should be able to successfully save it, and then edit/process like normal.

Thanks to everyone for all their help...everyone has already been +Td, and will be again in 12.

Nick,
what type of a file did you open this up as in CEP?  for the 2nd time in very few outings, i've walked out of a show w/ a bad file that doesnt register in Foobar and opens up in CEP as a solid green brick.  FWIW it was recorded on a 4GB transcend card using the R09 @ 24/44.1

i'll give pigirons program a shot.

Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: wbrisette on November 02, 2006, 05:11:40 PM
Nick - if you can run on windoze, can you give my utility at http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0 (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72936.0) a try?

Your situation is exactly why I created the bugger and I'd sure like some "real world" feedback on how well it works (or not). If it doesn't work, I'd like to get my hands on a copy of the file so I can modify the program.

Here it is running under Mac OS X (I simply compiled his code). You'll need to run this in the terminal window.

Wayne
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: chronictonicbear on May 28, 2007, 11:19:43 AM
i know this is an old topic, but how is this fix wav supposed to work? i recorded audio for a client on a sandisk 4gb sdhc card on r09 16/44.1, gave it to him & the card will not recognize in his either of his readers going to his mac. is there an easy fix to tell him to try?
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: scb on August 17, 2008, 09:26:48 PM
if you're looking to fix headers on a mac, use soundhack

http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre/soft//SH896.zip
Title: Re: Help Needed! (R09 Bad Wave Recovery)
Post by: EarlyMorningRain on September 18, 2008, 12:04:14 AM
yes old thread and slightly off topic.

Going to guess your client does not have a SD card reader that is "High-Capacity" capable. Get them a copy of this recording on low density media then give it to them.

So there is nothing wrong with your wav file. Problem lies with the hardware being used on their end.

This is what tipped me off "gave it to him & the card will not recognize in his either of his readers going to his mac".

That tells me the wav file on that card is not where the problem lies. Their computer cannot read the memory card you gave them. That is your issue.
 
Next person!



i know this is an old topic, but how is this fix wav supposed to work? i recorded audio for a client on a sandisk 4gb sdhc card on r09 16/44.1, gave it to him & the card will not recognize in his either of his readers going to his mac. is there an easy fix to tell him to try?