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Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« on: September 10, 2004, 09:15:59 PM »
I have a recording that I need to reduce the bass on.  The show was recorded using split omnis and sounds great, but the bass is heavy.

Can someone walk me through how to go about analyzing the wave and determining how much to roll off and where, etc?  No experience with post-production, but willing to learn.

Thanks in advance for the help or pointing me to a tutorial of sorts.

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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2005, 06:02:43 AM »
Usually a "too bassy "complaint relates to a heavy,muddy midbass which runs mostly between about 125hz up to about 350hz. a mild up in the area from 1khz to 3kz brings out a bit more presence,getting vocals a bit more above the blur. Seldom is the low end of the bass overdone-though levels that clip can really nasty up bass. Wavelab has undo,so fish around a bit, and don't rely on cheap little "computer speakers" which often boost the mid bass because they can't do low bass. To do Wavelab detailing or Soundforge you want a decent Stereo amp with real speakers having good detailed tweets and at least an 8" woofer. You need to accurately hear what is really there

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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2005, 03:30:11 PM »
I agree with what's said above. If you just want to get it over with though, and work on it the simple way...use the EQ. There are two different EQs on Wavelab. I can talk you through it if you're unfamiliar with using the program...it's pretty easy. 

I will back up the previous statement though....if you go with headphones or computer speakers....you won't get an accurate playback. However, instead of running out and buying nice monitors....you could just record several samples at various levels.....burn a test disc and play back on your home stereo. Not perfect....but in a pitch it's the best you can do.
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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2005, 04:23:30 PM »
is there a dedicated lo-cut in wavelab 5 ???

i have a recording that is a bit too heavy in the bass too  :)
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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2005, 04:43:00 PM »
Why not just use your basic EQ?
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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2005, 05:03:52 PM »
Why not just use your basic EQ?

well, i would have to use the comp speakers if i did that to judge the lo-cut, i wish there was an easy plugin where you could just put a lo-cut filter at 100hz or so

i couldve sworn that wavelab 4 had an EQ plugin similar to that, but i cant find it in 5
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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2005, 06:35:06 PM »
Yeah....I hear where you're coming from. Comp speakers don't come close to realistic representation of the actual sound. I do a good bit of editing work and sometimes what I have to do in that situation is make an edit test disk. Record the same cut several times with different eq level adjustments and name each cut according to the adjustment made. Burn all the cuts as seperate tracks onto a disc and playback on home stereo. It's a bit much, but it really doesn't take that long at all with Wavelab. I guess, depending on the importance of the show you're editing, it can definitely be worth it. All that being said, you probably had allready considered that option anyway. Just thought there was a chance this could help you out.

If you keep using Wavelab 5 on the same computer with the same playback system you eventually start to get an idea of what your adjustments will sound like when played back on another output device. That's what's happened to me. Unless I'm working on something very important or editing for someone else...I don't even bother with the process I listed above.

If I can help in any way, let me know.
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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2005, 07:42:04 PM »
thanks bud, +T ;)
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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2005, 08:13:44 PM »
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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2005, 08:36:24 PM »
+T thanks marc :) great read BTW
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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2005, 10:08:51 PM »
I would cut before I would add... that's just me though. Boosting will also add gain (potentially clipping!)
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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2005, 12:19:25 AM »
I would cut before I would add... that's just me though. Boosting will also add gain (potentially clipping!)

[yoda]agree with tim, i will[/yoda]

if you cut first, you'll get more clarity which may reveal sounds you may have missed.

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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2006, 09:20:00 PM »
Does any one have a copy of that EQ article?  Apparently it is pay only now...

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Re: Help with reducing bass in a recording please (wavelab 4)
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2006, 09:42:28 PM »
try the multiband compressor in wavelabs plugins
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
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