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Title: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: tapeheadtoo on June 21, 2011, 09:51:48 AM
I'm still ascending the steep learning curve of FCE.
But this one line makes me eager to upgrade:

"It even automates audio sync from an external recorder and the camera, matching audio and video via the waveforms, to connect content and sync it properly. This was formerly a manual process."

 :realhappy:

Of course, one will still have to correct for sound delay when sitting further back.  But that one-shot step will be easy compared to syncing multiple clips by hand.  I just reclaimed days (weeks?) of my remaining life.  Gotta shoot more shows...
Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: tailschao on June 21, 2011, 11:24:03 AM
I'm pretty sure the Plural Eyes plugins already do that. Not free, sure, but neither is FCP.

Can FCP X import AVCHD natively? I'm pretty sure past versions can't, right? I don't own a Mac, but if I did, being forced to transcode everything to ProRes would be an absolute dealbreaker for me. If I transcode before editing, I do it because I want to do some Avisynth filtering on the footage. In those cases, I edit the AVCHD natively (in Premiere), then, just before export, encode the Avisynth scripts to uncompressed video and do a Source Replace. Having to make ProRes intermediates for everything? No thanks.

Just IMO, of course.
Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: tapeheadtoo on June 21, 2011, 11:43:01 AM
Yes, Plural Eyes can sync...  but yeah, Plural Eyes ($150) plus FCP ($1000) was a no go for me.

I believe FCPX still can't edit AVCHD natively.  >:(    Since I'm Mac only I just have to deal with the bloated file sizes of AIC (FCE 4) and now ProRes for FCPX.  I'm used to 80-150gb HD output files by now.  The final Blu-ray discs still look great despite all that transcoding back and forth.
Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: Brian E. on June 21, 2011, 11:47:55 AM
i'm excited!  but $300 is still a lot of money :(
Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: tapeheadtoo on June 21, 2011, 04:30:56 PM
According to this, FCP X _does_ offer native editing support for AVCHD:

http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs/#supported-formats-and-io

Does this mean no more super-long ingest/transcoding times???

And on another note... export directly to Blu-ray!!  This appears to be the first Apple concession to Blu-ray, which is news in itself.
It'll be nice to skip the Toast step (and their lame menus).  Hopefully the FCP X menus will be better.

Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: Brian E. on June 21, 2011, 04:52:15 PM
oh man.  ok, guess i'm getting it.
Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: guitard on June 22, 2011, 06:57:53 PM
"It even automates audio sync from an external recorder and the camera, matching audio and video via the waveforms, to connect content and sync it properly. This was formerly a manual process."

Sounds like a great feature - but I'll have to see it to believe it. 
Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: willndmb on June 23, 2011, 11:14:01 PM
plural eyes and my fcp never worked right
after a number of emails, me sending the project to them and stuff we both gave up

anyways i hate how the new fcp looks - reminds me of new imovie which is a pain in the ass imo compared to imovie 6/hd
i'll stick to my "old" fcp until i have to upgrade
the price is nice though compared to past versions
Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: printguy on June 24, 2011, 08:45:57 AM
Here's a cool summary of some "missing" features: http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/professional-video-editors-weigh-in-on-final-cut-pro-x/
Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: Brian E. on June 24, 2011, 09:22:18 AM
looks like a good majority of the pro users' gripes are actually not true.  They just need to learn to use X.
Title: Re: Final Cut Pro X release
Post by: keytohwy on June 26, 2011, 11:04:28 AM
I've had good luck with Plural Eyes, but I am looking forward to what the new version offers. I've got a new iMac on order and will get FCPX upon arrival for a few projects I still have.

I'm certainly not a pro, so maybe I won't have all of the gripes others have  :P