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Offline Nick Graham

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How bad does this suck...
« on: May 08, 2005, 02:57:14 PM »
Last night was supposed to be my first show out with the Schoeps>Sax rig. Set everything up in the living room yesterday afternoon...worked perfectly. Hooked up everything in my bag and head out to Atlanta.

Get to the Tabernacle, throw up the stand, and no levels. I unhooked everything, went through it piece by piece...no luck. Finally got low levels by tuning the SXM2 to "High Gain" mode and turning the gain knobs wide open. Needless to say when I got home, the tape was toast - nothing but distortion.

Anyway, hook everything back up in my living room, and guess what - worked perfectly. Had decent enough levels on Low Gain with the knobs at 10 o'clock, and that was just taping my stereo.

The Taping Gods were not smiling on me last night...
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2005, 02:59:38 PM »
Last night was supposed to be my first show out with the Schoeps>Sax rig. Set everything up in the living room yesterday afternoon...worked perfectly.

what happened??+T for your trouble

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2005, 04:00:54 PM »
Did you leave the 9vs in it?  I think that thing is always on when you have battery or external power.  Sounds like a powering issue
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2005, 04:09:13 PM »
I think that thing is always on when you have battery or external power.

The SX-M2 has a global power switch and also a switch to turn on phantom power to the mics.  I've had more than my share of bad batches of 9v batteries - so...maybe just a bad batch.   :-\  But that wouldn't explain it working when you got back home.  Hmmmm...
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2005, 04:12:35 PM »
Just hope it's not a mojo voodoo hex.  Anything else you can probably overcome.

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2005, 11:00:17 PM »
Just hope it's not a mojo voodoo hex. Anything else you can probably overcome.

I think I'm just cursed to never actually run a rig at a Crowes show. Patched in NYC and Knoxville (New York 'cause I didn't wanna fly with my rig and Knoxville because I had 3rd row), and screwed up last night.

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2005, 01:04:05 AM »
d'oh, you must be that guy.
whats more amazing is that the rig worked when you got home.

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2005, 01:29:14 AM »
Just hope it's not a mojo voodoo hex.  Anything else you can probably overcome.

i take no responsibility for any voodoo hex.  I would recall placing a curse within the last 72 hours.  Werent me. :-\
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2005, 10:47:11 AM »
just mail it all to me and I'll take a look at it for you

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2005, 11:32:14 AM »
doh! what happened to the oade 148?
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2005, 08:39:10 PM »
d'oh, you must be that guy.
whats more amazing is that the rig worked when you got home.

I just realized - you were the guy in front of me running the ATs, right? How'd your tape turn out?

doh! what happened to the oade 148?

I continued onward in my gear slut ways and decided to go all out - Shempz!

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2005, 08:53:44 PM »
Any chance the SBM was switched to "Mic" instead of "Line"?  I've done that a number of times and gotten barely audible levels wide open (just from the circuit bleedthrough).  Save for high humidity situations, that's about the only thing that I can think would cause it.

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2005, 08:54:56 PM »
damn, that sucks nick :(
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2005, 11:27:00 PM »
Any chance the SBM was switched to "Mic" instead of "Line"?  I've done that a number of times and gotten barely audible levels wide open (just from the circuit bleedthrough).  Save for high humidity situations, that's about the only thing that I can think would cause it.

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2005, 02:41:48 AM »
d'oh, you must be that guy.
whats more amazing is that the rig worked when you got home.

I just realized - you were the guy in front of me running the ATs, right? How'd your tape turn out?


well i have heard better fo sure.  but it seems ok.  i just finished tracking 5/5 and will listen to it tomorrow.  will probably throw it up tomorrow night.  as far as 5/7... i havent even started with that, but again, the preliminary listen was alright, a little boomy.
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2005, 08:53:07 PM »
i'd be curious to know how any source turned out since the Tab isnt exactly a good room to get the best capture in my experience....
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2005, 11:36:47 AM »
i'd be curious to know how any source turned out since the Tab isnt exactly a good room to get the best capture in my experience....

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5/8/05 http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?t=11178

There were at least 4 tapers (besides myself) there on 5/7, Jeromejello's ATs, AKG 483s, Neumann KM185s, and a pair of mics front row balcony...hopefully at least one source will surface soon.
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2005, 06:30:16 PM »
i'd be curious to know how any source turned out since the Tab isnt exactly a good room to get the best capture in my experience....

5/5/05 http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=14204

5/6/05 http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=14164

5/8/05 http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?t=11178

There were at least 4 tapers (besides myself) there on 5/7, Jeromejello's ATs, AKG 483s, Neumann KM185s, and a pair of mics front row balcony...hopefully at least one source will surface soon.


i will seed the 5/7 show tomorrow night.  fwiw, the sound on sat's pull is much better then thursday's... i think they dialed it in nicely.  either that or for whatever strange reason the right side of the board had a better sound than the left.
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2005, 10:42:09 AM »
hey nick...did you see that BC's are playing in birmingham with Govt Mule and NMAS?
here's the link. it's the same weekend as wakarusa.
25 bucks and you get to see bands all day.
the lineup is
citizen cope
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govt mule
black crowes

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2005, 10:49:26 AM »
nice find tyler. i may be going over for that since its all sunday. can we tape?
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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2005, 11:00:13 AM »
nice find tyler. i may be going over for that since its all sunday. can we tape?

not sure...i can't find any info.
i'll see if i can dig up something.

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2005, 11:22:03 AM »
it says on the faq page no audio recorders.  it doesn't say no microphones though!  ;D

i'll try to contact the organization to see if it'll be allowed for the taper friendly bands.

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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2005, 12:26:43 PM »
hey nick...did you see that BC's are playing in birmingham with Govt Mule and NMAS?
here's the link. it's the same weekend as wakarusa.
25 bucks and you get to see bands all day.
the lineup is
citizen cope
nmas
govt mule
black crowes

http://www.citystages.org

should be good stuff!!

Thanks for the heads up...looks like a good day of music.

it says on the faq page no audio recorders. it doesn't say no microphones though! ;D

i'll try to contact the organization to see if it'll be allowed for the taper friendly bands.


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Re: How bad does this suck...
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2005, 03:51:50 PM »
who's got a stealth rig we can use?

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