Topic: Edirol R-09 release information

[willndmb]

Thank you.

Saved me 6 of 12 pages.

+T

Seems like a step backwards.

thats what i thought, the only plus to the r09 vs mt is that none have blown up, imo

[Brian Skalinder]

thats what i thought, the only plus to the r09 vs mt is that none have blown up, imo

Again, if all you want is a bit-bucket, the R9 isn't for you.  For analog-in, the UI is far better than the MT.  And as people use it more, we'll find out how it compares sonically to the MT and R1 (I've not heard any direct comps yet).  The MT offers mediocre analog-in performance, at best, IMO.

[willndmb]

thats what i thought, the only plus to the r09 vs mt is that none have blown up, imo

Again, if all you want is a bit-bucket, the R9 isn't for you.  For analog-in, the UI is far better than the MT.  And as people use it more, we'll find out how it compares sonically to the MT and R1 (I've not heard any direct comps yet).  The MT offers mediocre analog-in performance, at best, IMO.

but i fi was to go digi in from a ua5 and/or want to go at 96 vs 48 then its better in your opinion?

i just want to see what would be best for me
thanks

[Brian Skalinder]

but i fi was to go digi in from a ua5 and/or want to go at 96 vs 48 then its better in your opinion?

If you want to run digi-in to a recorder, or at 96 kHz sample rate, then the R9 is not for you.  It does not support digital inputs or 96 kHz sample rate.  So, no, in that specific case, it's not better since it's not even possible.  But for those running analog-in from a preamp, or mics + battery box, the R9 may prove better than the MT.  We'll see.

[coloartist]

I have ran analog into my JB3 twice.

I see no need to bypass my equipment so I can go Analog.

I don't stealth.

I respect the artists I tape. If they don't want me to record, I don't.

[Brian Skalinder]

I have ran analog into my JB3 twice.

I see no need to bypass my equipment so I can go Analog.

Then it's clear the R9 is not the best choice for you.

[coloartist]

Yup, you are right.

Now I just have to save up for one of the other choices.

I am guessing a year, and who knows what will be available then.

Then again, if my jb3 backup dies, it could be sooner.

Then the MT could be my back up instead of my JB3.

Who knows, maybe someday I won't run a backup. I doubt it though.

[gewwang]

I've compared the a/d in the R1 @24/44 vs the a/d in the V3 @24/48 and based on what I heard and the opinions of at least 3 other tapers I trust, we all felt the R1 was as good as the V3 after dithered down in Wavelab using UV22HR.

Compare the UA5's a/d vs. the R09's a/d and you might get the same results.

[sleepypedro]

ftp:  tapers.org
user:  ftp4all
pass:  ftp4all

look for r09_test.flac24

i am uploading the rest of this show to archive.org right now, but for now, here's a one minute sample of ...

Carbon Leaf   
June 13th, 2006
Ram's Head Onstage
Annapolis MD

*** THIS IS A 24-BIT FILESET NOT INTENDED FOR AUDIO CD ***

SOURCE:  schoeps mk4v (DINa, 10' from stage, clamped 7' up, DFC) > vms02ib > custom hyperconductor BNC - 1/8" interconnect > edirol r09 (24/48)
PROCESSING:  soundforge 8.0 (tracking, fades) > flac 1.1.2

[Jofa]

ftp:  tapers.org
user:  ftp4all
pass:  ftp4all

look for r09_test.flac24

i am uploading the rest of this show to archive.org right now, but for now, here's a one minute sample of ...

Carbon Leaf   
June 13th, 2006
Ram's Head Onstage
Annapolis MD

*** THIS IS A 24-BIT FILESET NOT INTENDED FOR AUDIO CD ***

SOURCE:  schoeps mk4v (DINa, 10' from stage, clamped 7' up, DFC) > vms02ib > custom hyperconductor BNC - 1/8" interconnect > edirol r09 (24/48)
PROCESSING:  soundforge 8.0 (tracking, fades) > flac 1.1.2

Thanks! This will be very interesting!

/ R.

[coloartist]

Is there one file, or is there a comparison file also?

I don't doubt it sounds good, I was just wondering if there is a source from the same type of mics from the same location?

[sleepypedro]

Is there one file, or is there a comparison file also?

I don't doubt it sounds good, I was just wondering if there is a source from the same type of mics from the same location?

it's not a gear comparison.  people said they wanted to hear a sample, i give them a sample.

now, i give them the entire 24/48 show:

http://www.archive.org/details/cl2006-06-13.mk4v.flac24

my r1 is getting repaired.  if i had it in hand, i'm sure i'd have given some thought to gear comps, but i haven't.   

[hyperplane]

Getting stoked. Sound Professionals called and said the R-09 that I ordered should be shipping out to me on Monday. Woohoo! 

[gngrbrdman13]

Seems like a step backwards.

If all you're looking for is a bit bucket, it's obviously not a good fit.  But for those in the market for an analog-in recorder, it seems (so far, brand new after all) it's a big step forward over the R1 and other options.

exactly.  Its seems like a great unit for 'under the radar' 24 bit its gonna be great in so many aspects!

I am buying mine today or monday.  Again is oade doing any mods.  I dont think they even have it yet.

dd

[blackmikito]

Seems like a step backwards.

If all you're looking for is a bit bucket, it's obviously not a good fit.  But for those in the market for an analog-in recorder, it seems (so far, brand new after all) it's a big step forward over the R1 and other options.

exactly.  Its seems like a great unit for 'under the radar' 24 bit its gonna be great in so many aspects!

I am buying mine today or monday.  Again is oade doing any mods.  I dont think they even have it yet.

dd

I remember Oade posting back before the Microtrack first came out that he wouldn't (or couldn't) be doing mods on the line-in or gain stage because the digital button-operated level control on the unit would be much too impractical to attempt to hack, if even at all possible. Since the R-09 appears to have a similarly setup level control using buttons instead of the manual dial, I imagine it goes the same for that one.  With the new digi-recorders I think that ones with level "dials" like the R-1 and Marantz models can be improved noise and gain wise, whereas digital button models like the Microtrack and R-09 cannot.  Although, I of course could be mistaken.