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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: robgronotte on May 29, 2023, 06:49:45 PM
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Whenever I get my next recorder, I would like to get one that can be controlled with my phone so I'm not looking into my bag to adjust things. My eyesight is getting worse, I occasionally will press the wrong button, and it's not very stealthy to keep fiddling with it.
A friend has the Sony A10 with bluetooth and a phone app and likes it, but I'm curious what else is available and used by people here for comparison. I have also seen that some slightly older models used a wifi connection between recorder and phone, but I don't know how that works. Definitely would want a system that works in the field when no wifi network is available.
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I have the A10 and am happy with it. I think the latest Zoom recorders have a bt option.
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The Roland r-o7 and the Olympus LS-P5 also. The BT can be slow to connect though, the A10's is almost instantaneous.
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Sound Devices MixPre can be started, stopped, monitored, and the metadata edited via the mobile "wingman" app but it does not allow users to control input levels.
On the new 32 bit "Mark II" versions, this might not matter!?
The mixpre pairs with bluetooth in a different way than the A10. The mixPre doesn't require the user to go through the system menu, it just works when it's in range and the password is correct.
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The Tascam Portacapture X8 and X6 both have remote control via an accessory Bluetooth module. There are iOS/iPadOS and android apps available. I use the iOS app with my X8 and it is solid, with full control. I also have the Zoom F3 and can confirm the Bluetooth (also with accessory module) control works reliably. The Sound Devices MixPre series has built in Bluetooth. As others have already commented, the Wingman app has remote metering and track arming/naming, along with file naming and some metadata entry/reporting. I wish it had 100% recorder menu access, though. It works solidly, but Wingman is ripe for a refresh.
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+1 for A10. The app gives incredible control over the device and I've never had an issue with it besides it not connecting once when I had an android phone. The issue was resolved with a re-pairing.
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The Roland r-o7 and the Olympus LS-P5 also. The BT can be slow to connect though, the A10's is almost instantaneous.
What exactly do you mean by slow to connect? Just once when you turn it on, or slow to react when controlling it with your phone? Both of the two devices you mention can be slow?
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If anyone has a Sony A10 they're looking to unload, or possibly any other model that can be controlled with a phone, I may be interested in buying it from you.
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The Tascam Portacapture X8 and X6 both have remote control via an accessory Bluetooth module. There are iOS/iPadOS and android apps available. I use the iOS app with my X8 and it is solid, with full control. I also have the Zoom F3 and can confirm the Bluetooth (also with accessory module) control works reliably.
Excuse me for being a bit off topic, but as you own both portacapture and a Zoom F I’d like to ask you your opinion about their sound. Interested in preamp/converter quality in terms of noise and also quality of tone they can reproduce.
Many thanks
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The Roland r-o7 and the Olympus LS-P5 also. The BT can be slow to connect though, the A10's is almost instantaneous.
What exactly do you mean by slow to connect? Just once when you turn it on, or slow to react when controlling it with your phone? Both of the two devices you mention can be slow?
Once you've made the first connection and you've started the recording, they don't stop recording, it's just the long wait for the re-connection to your phone that's annoying. When you're at a show for instance and you want to check how things are going, they can take an age to connect to your phone. It seems to be when there's a lot of people around that the problem arises. With the A10, the connected screen is visible immediately.
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The Tascam Portacapture X8 and X6 both have remote control via an accessory Bluetooth module. There are iOS/iPadOS and android apps available. I use the iOS app with my X8 and it is solid, with full control. I also have the Zoom F3 and can confirm the Bluetooth (also with accessory module) control works reliably.
Excuse me for being a bit off topic, but as you own both portacapture and a Zoom F I’d like to ask you your opinion about their sound. Interested in preamp/converter quality in terms of noise and also quality of tone they can reproduce.
Many thanks
Quick answer: I wouldn’t hesitate to use them interchangeably from a noise (very low) and sound quality (very high) perspective. I use mine exclusively for soundscape recording, and both recorders do an excellent job capturing the audio my microphones produce. I have no trouble using them along side recordings made with my Mixpre-6mkii. I’ll leave music recording comparisons to others.
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Tascam WL-22 and -44, if I've remembered the model numbers correctly, have wifi control. DR-22WL mine is, having now reached across and checked. I have that connected to the output of my all-embracing sound system, and its wireless is linked to the home network, so I can operate it from the phone anywhere in the house. It's ok in other respects, not amazing, not bad.
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The Roland r-o7 and the Olympus LS-P5 also. The BT can be slow to connect though, the A10's is almost instantaneous.
What exactly do you mean by slow to connect? Just once when you turn it on, or slow to react when controlling it with your phone? Both of the two devices you mention can be slow?
I think it depends on the smartphone. My R-07 is instantly connected when I open the app on my iPhone 14. Same was the case on my iPhone 8.
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Instantly with my R-07 too.
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Zoom F3 & F6, w/ the wireless dongle & app...
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Zoom F8 as well. I don't use the app though.
Not phone and no monitoring, but Tascam DR2d includes a small IR remote. Easy to start, pause, stop, etc as long as there is a line of sight to the recorder., confirmed by red LED co-located with the IR sensor. Very useful for stealthing and board patches.
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Is the Android app for the R-07 still available? That is the recorder I own and last time I tried searching the app store it seemed the app was either no longer available or an old version that my phone couldn't download. Would love to be able to control the unit from my phone. Thanks
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Is the Android app for the R-07 still available? That is the recorder I own and last time I tried searching the app store it seemed the app was either no longer available or an old version that my phone couldn't download. Would love to be able to control the unit from my phone. Thanks
Yes it is, just used it to control two decks at a show in Sepr.