Author Topic: Beyerdynamic MC930 info (Read 9232 times)

aberg · « **on:** December 20, 2006, 11:01:34 AM »

These mics look interesting, and at $765 for a new set from BHphoto, if they can beat the km184, I'm intrigued. Not looking to spend any more money now, but just looking to learn more about these mics. Those that use them, what do you think? How do they compare to 481s?

TNJazz · « **Reply #1 on:** December 20, 2006, 11:16:19 AM »

It's unlikely that the price is still good. Dealer cost for these mics is almost $100 more (Beyerdynamic raised prices on September 1st, I believe).

I wonder if B&H will honor this price? The only person who ordered from them was Tapermark. Not sure if he's gotten his mics yet though...?

EDIT: They destroy KM184s. Have never compared them to 480s, but they destroy 460s too (even JWmodded).

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=77065.0 <---- Join the team!

stirinthesauce · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2006, 11:25:01 AM »

Quote from: aberg on December 20, 2006, 11:01:34 AM

These mics look interesting, and at $765 for a new set from BHphoto, if they can beat the km184, I'm intrigued. Not looking to spend any more money now, but just looking to learn more about these mics. Those that use them, what do you think? How do they compare to 481s?

PM Tapermark and see if his finally showed up from B&H. I know he had waited some time.

Mine came from FrontendAudio. They were a bit more but I recieved them 2 days later. Customer service is sometimes worth the additonal money.

Well this is my ears speaking, but, I like these alot more than 481's. I've not owned 480's but have borrewed and run them. The CKx series cap always have left me wanting more. They just seemed a bit thin to my ears. Of course this is MY ears, yours or someone else's may hear something else. The adantage with the 480's though is multiple caps, the mc930 is a fixed card. Of course this may be a non-issue with you.

Now, for what I hear on the mc930's. Fullness across the frequency range. Fantastic mid, great highs but not bright, and a full lowend but not bloated. Representative of it's flat freq response chart. Very smooth sound, detailed and transparent, but not overly so. Some ultra transparent mics sound a bit harsh, almost too transparent. These are defintiely not those. Just a pleasing playback experience. Of course these are my ears, yours may tell you something else.

aberg · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2006, 11:29:38 AM »

Thanks for the info guys... it would be nice to find someone in town with a set and run a comparison. I'd also like to run a comparison with km140s.

stirinthesauce · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2006, 11:44:25 AM »

Quote from: aberg on December 20, 2006, 11:29:38 AM

Thanks for the info guys... it would be nice to find someone in town with a set and run a comparison. I'd also like to run a comparison with km140s.

There has been a shootout comp listed over on gearslutz awhile back. Between the km84 (reference mic in the shootout), mg300, km 184 and the mc 930. Do a search for " inexpensive km84" or something along that lines. That was the thread title or part of it. That comped sealed the deal for me in my decision to purchase mine. If you want to listen to one of my sources, here is one:

http://www.archive.org/details/db2006-11-22.mc930.flac16

TNJazz · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2006, 01:05:07 PM »

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=80355

KLowe · « **Reply #6 on:** December 20, 2006, 01:09:06 PM »

Not really a shoot-out but me and Jon did tape PGroove in Huntsville.
mics at same location > W-mod Ua-5's

only difference is that I dithered and resampled from 24/48.

http://www.archive.org/details/pgroove2006-11-01.KM140
140's
http://www.archive.org/details/pgroove2006-11-01..flac
Beyer dynamics

I still can't figure out why the archive has not converted my flacs in to mp3's yet? I set to allow derivations. Oh well.

I'm interested to see what others think about the two comps.

Kevin

Rick · « **Reply #7 on:** December 20, 2006, 01:11:19 PM »

Quote from: TNJazz on December 20, 2006, 11:16:19 AM

It's unlikely that the price is still good. Dealer cost for these mics is almost $100 more (Beyerdynamic raised prices on September 1st, I believe).

I wonder if B&H will honor this price? The only person who ordered from them was Tapermark. Not sure if he's gotten his mics yet though...?

EDIT: They destroy KM184s. Have never compared them to 480s, but they destroy 460s too (even JWmodded).

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=77065.0 <---- Join the team!

Hmmm I was thining about ordering them too... It says in stock Hopefully they will honor that price

TNJazz · « **Reply #8 on:** December 20, 2006, 01:15:16 PM »

Quote from: Rick on December 20, 2006, 01:11:19 PM

Quote from: TNJazz on December 20, 2006, 11:16:19 AM
It's unlikely that the price is still good. Dealer cost for these mics is almost $100 more (Beyerdynamic raised prices on September 1st, I believe).

I wonder if B&H will honor this price? The only person who ordered from them was Tapermark. Not sure if he's gotten his mics yet though...?

EDIT: They destroy KM184s. Have never compared them to 480s, but they destroy 460s too (even JWmodded).

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=77065.0 <---- Join the team!

Hmmm I was thining about ordering them too... It says in stock Hopefully they will honor that price

Interesting. It *does* say they're in stock. Previously it said "special order item".

Paging tapermark! Can you give us an update? Have you gotten your mics yet?

flipp · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2006, 01:46:04 PM »

Quote from: TNJazz on December 20, 2006, 01:15:16 PM

Quote from: Rick on December 20, 2006, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: TNJazz on December 20, 2006, 11:16:19 AM
It's unlikely that the price is still good. Dealer cost for these mics is almost $100 more (Beyerdynamic raised prices on September 1st, I believe).

I wonder if B&H will honor this price? The only person who ordered from them was Tapermark. Not sure if he's gotten his mics yet though...?

EDIT: They destroy KM184s. Have never compared them to 480s, but they destroy 460s too (even JWmodded).

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=77065.0 <---- Join the team!

Hmmm I was thining about ordering them too... It says in stock Hopefully they will honor that price

Interesting. It *does* say they're in stock. Previously it said "special order item".

Paging tapermark! Can you give us an update? Have you gotten your mics yet?

It says in stock until you add it to your shopping cart, then it shows
Availability: In Stock

Important Notice!
This is not a regular stocked item and cannot be canceled, returned or exchanged.

and they charge your card when you place the order, not when the item ships.
Hope Mark gets his soon if he hasn't already.

stirinthesauce · « **Reply #10 on:** December 20, 2006, 02:51:59 PM »

[showUID]=186&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1[showUid][backPID]=74&cHash=444e7cb3c0]http://www.beyerdynamic.com/cms/Recording_studio.74.0.html?&L=1&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1[showUid][showUID]=186&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1[showUid][backPID]=74&cHash=444e7cb3c0

http://www.microphone-data.com/microphone.asp?mic=1046

The specs

TNJazz · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2006, 02:56:03 PM »

Quote from: stirinthesauce on December 20, 2006, 02:51:59 PM

[showUID]=186&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1[showUid][backPID]=74&cHash=444e7cb3c0]http://www.beyerdynamic.com/cms/Recording_studio.74.0.html?&L=1&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1[showUid][showUID]=186&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1[showUid][backPID]=74&cHash=444e7cb3c0

http://tinyurl.com/y8fcuu

http://www.microphone-data.com/microphone.asp?mic=1046

The specs

fixed it for you.

stirinthesauce · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2006, 02:57:14 PM »

Quote from: TNJazz on December 20, 2006, 02:56:03 PM

Quote from: stirinthesauce on December 20, 2006, 02:51:59 PM
[showUID]=186&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1[showUid][backPID]=74&cHash=444e7cb3c0]http://www.beyerdynamic.com/cms/Recording_studio.74.0.html?&L=1&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1[showUid][showUID]=186&tx_sbproductdatabase_pi1[showUid][backPID]=74&cHash=444e7cb3c0

[url=http://www.microphone-data.com/microphone.asp?mic=1046]http://www.microphone-data.com/microphone.asp?mic=1046

The specs

fixed it for you.

Thanks, was about to fix, you just did it for me

TNJazz · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2006, 02:58:03 PM »

Wow, the board's suddenly freaking out a little! Here's the first link again:

http://tinyurl.com/y8fcuu

Rick · « **Reply #14 on:** December 20, 2006, 03:04:12 PM »

Quote from: TNJazz on December 20, 2006, 02:58:03 PM

Wow, the board's suddenly freaking out a little! Here's the first link again:

http://tinyurl.com/y8fcuu

To bad it dosn't come with that XY/ORTF bar.

Teen Wolf Blitzer · « **Reply #15 on:** December 20, 2006, 03:55:26 PM »

I cancelled the order. BEWARE! Avoid BandH at all costs. I shit you not emailed em last week and got the answer again. 4 weeks. That would have made the total wait 10 weeks for these mics. That's if they would even deliver on the 4 week thing. I figured it was a sign and cancelled the order. So far BandH is 4 for 4. All 4 orders cancelled because of the same thing. No delivery. I don't get how they get business. Seriously.

TNJazz · « **Reply #16 on:** December 20, 2006, 03:58:55 PM »

Did you get a pair from anywhere else then, or are you still on the hunt for a pair?

aberg · « **Reply #17 on:** December 20, 2006, 04:03:32 PM »

Quote from: tapermark on December 20, 2006, 03:55:26 PM

I cancelled the order. BEWARE! Avoid BandH at all costs. I shit you not emailed em last week and got the answer again. 4 weeks. That would have made the total wait 10 weeks for these mics. That's if they would even deliver on the 4 week thing. I figured it was a sign and cancelled the order. So far BandH is 4 for 4. All 4 orders cancelled because of the same thing. No delivery. I don't get how they get business. Seriously.

brutal... i wonder if they stock them at the NYC storefront.. might be easier than dealing with shipping.

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #18 on:** December 20, 2006, 04:10:51 PM »

Quote from: tapermark on December 20, 2006, 03:55:26 PM

I cancelled the order. BEWARE! Avoid BandH at all costs. I shit you not emailed em last week and got the answer again. 4 weeks. That would have made the total wait 10 weeks for these mics. That's if they would even deliver on the 4 week thing. I figured it was a sign and cancelled the order. So far BandH is 4 for 4. All 4 orders cancelled because of the same thing. No delivery. I don't get how they get business. Seriously.

Were these all special orders, or stocked items?

stirinthesauce · « **Reply #19 on:** December 20, 2006, 04:12:57 PM »

Dirk linked a pair on ebay going for 799. No one even bid on them. They were new stereo pair.

As stated earlier though, these prices are probably gone for good. Frontendaudio is charging 999, and after talking with Warren about the price he pays, this is VERY reasonable. Given their performance, it's a steal.

aberg · « **Reply #20 on:** December 20, 2006, 04:40:37 PM »

Quote from: stirinthesauce on December 20, 2006, 04:12:57 PM

Dirk linked a pair on ebay going for 799. No one even bid on them. They were new stereo pair.

As stated earlier though, these prices are probably gone for good. Frontendaudio is charging 999, and after talking with Warren about the price he pays, this is VERY reasonable. Given their performance, it's a steal.

That same pair has been relisted for the same price... I'm hoping sometime in the new year a used pair will pop up somewhere... looking forward to trying these out maybe for festivals next summer if they sound nicer than the ck61's... always keeping the ck63's since I haven't heard a better hyper.

TNJazz · « **Reply #21 on:** December 20, 2006, 04:44:14 PM »

Quote from: aberg on December 20, 2006, 04:40:37 PM

I'm hoping sometime in the new year a used pair will pop up somewhere...

Nothing wrong with hoping. Just don't hold your breath...

I have yet to see a used pair show up ANYWHERE (and believe me, I've been looking daily for the last 8 months in every conceivable place...!)

Closest I came was a single on Ebay about 3 months ago.

aberg · « **Reply #22 on:** December 20, 2006, 04:55:39 PM »

Quote from: TNJazz on December 20, 2006, 04:44:14 PM

Quote from: aberg on December 20, 2006, 04:40:37 PM
I'm hoping sometime in the new year a used pair will pop up somewhere...

Nothing wrong with hoping. Just don't hold your breath...

I have yet to see a used pair show up ANYWHERE (and believe me, I've been looking daily for the last 8 months in every conceivable place...!)

Closest I came was a single on Ebay about 3 months ago.

Well, let me know if you find any.. doesn't sound promising though.

TNJazz · « **Reply #23 on:** December 20, 2006, 05:00:10 PM »

Quote from: aberg on December 20, 2006, 04:55:39 PM

Well, let me know if you find any.. doesn't sound promising though.

Finding them used is quite a task. I would imagine it's because once people hear how good they sound they're reluctant to sell them.

Not saying that they won't show up on the used market, just saying your best bet is to just buy new (hell, you get the warranty and all that anyway. it's worth it!)

Teen Wolf Blitzer · « **Reply #24 on:** December 20, 2006, 08:35:53 PM »

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on December 20, 2006, 04:10:51 PM

Quote from: tapermark on December 20, 2006, 03:55:26 PM
I cancelled the order. BEWARE! Avoid BandH at all costs. I shit you not emailed em last week and got the answer again. 4 weeks. That would have made the total wait 10 weeks for these mics. That's if they would even deliver on the 4 week thing. I figured it was a sign and cancelled the order. So far BandH is 4 for 4. All 4 orders cancelled because of the same thing. No delivery. I don't get how they get business. Seriously.

Were these all special orders, or stocked items?

No. First was a bag. listed as in stock. Second was a stand listed in stock, 3rd was a thread adapter listed in stock and lastly these mics which said special order but a 7-14 business day wait not 10 weeks.

Teen Wolf Blitzer · « **Reply #25 on:** December 20, 2006, 08:36:46 PM »

Quote from: TNJazz on December 20, 2006, 03:58:55 PM

Did you get a pair from anywhere else then, or are you still on the hunt for a pair?

For now I'm gonna play around with the Gefells. Maybe down the road.

phatDats4u · « **Reply #26 on:** January 17, 2007, 05:10:20 PM »

I guess these are just hard mics to track down. They're worth it if you can catch up with a pair- I was amazed

stirinthesauce · « **Reply #27 on:** January 17, 2007, 07:09:59 PM »

Quote from: phatDats4u on January 17, 2007, 05:10:20 PM

I guess these are just hard mics to track down. They're worth it if you can catch up with a pair- I was amazed

Not hard to get. Just that price on B&H is what is screwy. From my talks with a reputable dealer, with the changing euro/dollar rates, he can't even get them from the factory for the price B&H is advertising for sale.

Anyone dealer selling these for a grand (there is at least one that I know of), consider that a steal. List is around 1300-1400 with price going nowhere but up in the future.

Fantastic mic. I ran some comps the other weekend with my sto-2's, an adk ld (not the tl but the fixed card one), MXL ld (don't know the model #), adk sc-2 on an acoustic guitar, a Martin. The mc930's were light years ahead of everything. It was amazing the difference. Everyone in the room noticed it. The sto-2's were nice, but not as nice as I was hoping for on the guitar. The 930's exceeded my expectations.

Surprisingly, the MXL was not as shitty as we thought it would be. Definitely much brighter with a seemingly large high freq. boost though.

Nick Graham · « **Reply #28 on:** January 17, 2007, 11:38:51 PM »

Quote from: tapermark on December 20, 2006, 03:55:26 PM

I cancelled the order. BEWARE! Avoid BandH at all costs. I shit you not emailed em last week and got the answer again. 4 weeks. That would have made the total wait 10 weeks for these mics. That's if they would even deliver on the 4 week thing. I figured it was a sign and cancelled the order. So far BandH is 4 for 4. All 4 orders cancelled because of the same thing. No delivery. I don't get how they get business. Seriously.

Sorry to hear about your experiences, but I've had nothing but A+ service from B&H. I've ordered literally dozens of times, and never had anything but wonderful results.