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Gear / Technical Help => Battery Boxes, Preamps, Mixers, ADCs, and Processors => Topic started by: stober on January 31, 2005, 08:31:20 PM
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has anybody tried this? m-148>V3 The continous gain of 20 on the m-148 is fixed right?You turn it on and bam 20 db?Is the only switch on this thing is on/off?Seriously thinking of putting a m-148 in front of my V3 when need.(bad sounding venues)but there is no level adjustments on the m 148 right?Could I run the m148 right into my da-p1?
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I ran this for awhile and loved it, as have a few others on this board.
m148 is fixed 20db, only has an on/off switch.... that's it.
you can run the m148 line into a dap1 if your mics have high enough output, the u89s did not put out enough juice to do this very well
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bean ran tim's (now my) 148 in front of his v3 and really dug it, if i recall....
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bean ran tim's (now my) 148 in front of his v3 and really dug it, if i recall....
this is correct
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I ran this for awhile and loved it, as have a few others on this board.
m148 is fixed 20db, only has an on/off switch.... that's it.
you can run the m148 line into a dap1 if your mics have high enough output, the u89s did not put out enough juice to do this very well
I,m running dpa 4023,s so do they have enough output?would you calibrate the m 148 >V3 like you would calibrate any other pre amp>ad/converter.I have never thought of putting anything (pre-amp) in front of the V3 because you cant bypass the pre-amp on the V3 and use it like an apogee and just use it as an a/d converter.But is it correct that when you use the digital in or analog in on the Apogee mini-me or ad-1000 your still using the pre-amp? I would like a moded sbm-1 to throw behind the m148 but if my da-p1 will work i can use that.I think the a/d in the p-1 is just as good as a stock sbm-1 if not better.I m really looking in to my rig better for indoor stuff.The dpa>V3 is what I want in perfect conditions and something with a little a'color" or "darkness to it."I really like a nice midrange and full low end in the tapes I listen to .The best fit for the V3 all around are Neumans Schoeps imo.
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I,m running dpa 4023,s so do they have enough output?
no idea... I think you can look that up in the archival section
would you calibrate the m 148 >V3 like you would calibrate any other pre amp>ad/converter.
no need
I have never thought of putting anything (pre-amp) in front of the V3 because you cant bypass the pre-amp on the V3 and use it like an apogee and just use it as an a/d converter.But is it correct that when you use the digital in or analog in on the Apogee mini-me or ad-1000 your still using the pre-amp?
for the minime you cannot bypass the preamp, Todd R has explained this pretty indepth before, I'll see if I can find the thread. not sure about the ad1k.
I would like a moded sbm-1 to throw behind the m148 but if my da-p1 will work i can use that.I think the a/d in the p-1 is just as good as a stock sbm-1 if not better.I m really looking in to my rig better for indoor stuff.The dpa>V3 is what I want in perfect conditions and something with a little a'color" or "darkness to it."I really like a nice midrange and full low end in the tapes I listen to .The best fit for the V3 all around are Neumans Schoeps imo.
I think you would probably be very happy with the m148. PM Jonny and see if he has any tapes of dpa->m148->v3 for you to hear.
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here's one post where todd explains the "by passing the pre" thing a little bit. He's gone over this a few other times as well...
http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10860.msg132251#msg132251
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bean ran tim's (now my) 148 in front of his v3 and really dug it, if i recall....
what mics?
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how heavy is the m 148?.Does it fit very well in soniccase?
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you can run the m148 line into a dap1 if your mics have high enough output, the u89s did not put out enough juice to do this very well
I,m running dpa 4023,s so do they have enough output?
I am not sure but I doubt it. The DPA 402x series are quite low output mics (7mV/pa). Don't know how hot the U89's run, but when I ran some 140's with my V3 I had to knock the gain down ~5dB from my normal setup running 4022's.
Happy taping,
Ben
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you can run the m148 line into a dap1 if your mics have high enough output, the u89s did not put out enough juice to do this very well
I,m running dpa 4023,s so do they have enough output?
I am not sure but I doubt it. The DPA 402x series are quite low output mics (7mV/pa). Don't know how hot the U89's run, but when I ran some 140's with my V3 I had to knock the gain down ~5dB from my normal setup running 4022's.
I know what you mean.i borrowed my buddies Schoeps and had to turn the gain down more than I.m use to with my dpas.
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bean ran tim's (now my) 148 in front of his v3 and really dug it, if i recall....
what mics?
i ran akg 481>m148>v3 for phish 6/24/04 at deer creek, dug that tape, if youd like, i'll send ya a copy to hear, but FWIW, deer creek was mixed like crap IMO
its heavy, but built like a tank :)
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it is no heavier than an SLA and doesn't require one. Hands down my favorite setup when in an iffy sounding venue. I love the m148 and the v3, so why not run them together?
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I ran the 140's>m148>V3 last DEAD tour of which it is out on ETREE (I think)...I didn't post it someone wanted it and asked if he could post. They are 140's and not DPA...so as long as you can sort out the diff, I can send you a CDR . Did some M148>V3>MME and V3>MME stuff too. PM if interested.
peace
jah
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it is no heavier than an SLA and doesn't require one. Hands down my favorite setup when in an iffy sounding venue. I love the m148 and the v3, so why not run them together?
what he said
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you can run the m148 line into a dap1 if your mics have high enough output, the u89s did not put out enough juice to do this very well
I,m running dpa 4023,s so do they have enough output?
I am not sure but I doubt it. The DPA 402x series are quite low output mics (7mV/pa). Don't know how hot the U89's run, but when I ran some 140's with my V3 I had to knock the gain down ~5dB from my normal setup running 4022's.
Happy taping,
Ben
you're gonna have to turn the shit out of the v3 gain, thus running more v3 pre, I believe. dpas are pretty low output. check with Schuster, he ran this rig.
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At the 2003 Xmas Jam, Mic D started out the night with 4022>m148>ad1000 and wasn't able to apply enough gain to get decent levels during the acoustic music. We swapped mics so to speak and I ran mk41>kc5>cmc6>m148>adk and was able to get nice levels. Mic D ran 4022>m148>v3 and had the gain @ +20 with additional trim applied.
I ran the mk41>m148>v3 combo 5 times that fall and each time, I left the gain on the V3 @ +10 and had plenty of room to work with.
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At the 2003 Xmas Jam, Mic D started out the night with 4022>m148>ad1000 and wasn't able to apply enough gain to get decent levels during the acoustic music. We swapped mics so to speak and I ran mk41>kc5>cmc6>m148>adk and was able to get nice levels. Mic D ran 4022>m148>v3 and had the gain @ +20 with additional trim applied.
I ran the mk41>m148>v3 combo 5 times that fall and each time, I left the gain on the V3 @ +10 and had plenty of room to work with.
yeah, the dpas really are low output. many times when I ran 4022>eaa>adk I had to run the adk wide open, even at -10 on the adk. amd running 4022>m148>hhb, I had a bitch of a time getting good levels.
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Been running the MG>M148>V3 for a little while now, and I need very little gain on the V3 (10-15db). I like the combo so far in bad to decent sounding rooms. Good sounding rooms, I may pull the M148, but I am rarely in a good sounding room!