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Title: Help with my Md recorder
Post by: owen on February 12, 2004, 04:04:52 PM
how do i turn up the input recording leves ??

on a sony I think its mz-r500

???

Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on February 12, 2004, 04:08:32 PM
I thought I remember the Sony MDs only allow you to adjust levels before recording, not during the recording...  But then again I have no idea...

I'd suggest reading the owner's/instruction manual...

Adn if you don't have a manual, I bet you could google a PDF of one online somewhere...

Terry
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: heath on February 12, 2004, 04:19:34 PM
i love that google has become a verb...very interesting.

 :P
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: sexymexi on February 12, 2004, 04:55:36 PM
check the archival section heres the link.

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=8635
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: olyrc on February 12, 2004, 07:44:22 PM
The recording volume is in the menus somewhere, maybe under options.  I'll try to dig out my MD and look tonight.

Easiest way is to use a battery box with a level knob so you don't have to dig through the menus.
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: John Kelly on February 12, 2004, 08:40:02 PM
I have the same MD, and boy is it a pain in the ass to set levels with it.  Luckily I only had to do it for one show before I upgraded. ;)

IIRC, you have to start recording, pause it, go through the menu and there should be a REC LEVEL option.  
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: sexymexi on February 12, 2004, 09:16:29 PM
yep he's right, check the link above.
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: owen on February 12, 2004, 11:19:35 PM
Ya I got it to work thanks for every ones help why im here

do yous know if Sony  MZr55 Have LPMD modes ??    
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: zhianosatch on February 13, 2004, 12:54:05 AM
don't use them if it does!
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: owen on February 13, 2004, 01:01:11 AM
relly i dident know that they where bad for it
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: zhianosatch on February 13, 2004, 01:09:46 AM
yeah, the taping gods will put a curse on you if you use mdlp. :)
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: owen on February 13, 2004, 01:12:36 AM
lol right on well i better listing then dont wanna get them mad
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: zhianosatch on February 13, 2004, 01:28:08 AM
 ;D
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: George on February 13, 2004, 08:52:02 AM
Ya I got it to work thanks for every ones help why im here

do yous know if Sony  MZr55 Have LPMD modes ??    

Nope, that's an ancient model.  
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: joemango on February 13, 2004, 10:09:47 AM
Hey.  Don't diss MDLP.  I've gotten lots of great shows that would otherwise have had to be analog.  I did quite a few a/b listening comparisons with SP and LP2- all digital transfers, mind you.. and quite frankly, I like the space and decay that LP2 gives over the old mode.  Don't forget that LP2 is not just ATRAC with a lower bit-rate, it's an entirely different algorithm that was developed at least 8 years after the original ATRAC, with faster and better DSP's.

Yes, it's still compressed.  But when you're dealing with compressed audio, the proof is in the listening.

That having been said, I won't be using it for anything but straight voice recording again.  I love my JB3.
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: zhianosatch on February 13, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
The reason I diss LP2 and LP4 is because they sound far shittier than ATRAC. Simple.
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: joemango on February 13, 2004, 10:57:57 AM
Simple.  OK.  I hadn't thought of that.  Good argument.

It doesn't matter in this case as the person who started this thread doesn't have MDLP anyway on his MZR-55.

I won't be using LP2 anymore, as I have my JB3 and my laptop.

Just a suggestion though...  qualify your opinions a little in the future instead of making blanket statements that make you sound like an elitist.
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: Sean Gallemore on February 13, 2004, 02:03:35 PM
don't worry, he is ;) :P
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: zhianosatch on February 13, 2004, 02:05:07 PM
The reason I diss LP2 and LP4 is because they sound far shittier than ATRAC. Simple.

But when you're dealing with compressed audio, the proof is in the listening.

Exactly.
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: mattb on February 13, 2004, 04:36:55 PM
Yeah, I have a couple of MD recorders around that I use for listening on the go (running, cycling, etc). I find MDLP to be pretty good for playback when you're outside like that. With all the other noise around I really can't tell the difference.
Now when making a master, I agree you should use the best that's available, but that brings up a good point. What's worse, a show recorded in better quality SP that cuts in mid-song when you had to flip, or a slightly lesser quality complete uninterrupted recording?
Tough call. I think valid arguements can be made either way.
Anyway, I think MD is a fine walkman format, just not the best recorder (but far from the worst).
 
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: shroominhumpy on February 14, 2004, 12:46:00 AM
I am going to have to back up mango on the MDLP A:B comparisons. I also prefer MDLP. The imgaging of the recording is superior, and although is more compressed, the recordings have more depth of soundfield.

Jason
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: Karl on February 14, 2004, 12:42:11 PM
Though, in MDLP, you lose definition in the treble range.  You completely lose some frequencies in the high end.  I'm not sure how good stereo imaging could make up for that. But if imaging is what your after, that's cool.
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: zhianosatch on February 14, 2004, 12:43:55 PM
don't worry, he is ;) :P

This is true.
Title: Re:Help with my Md recorder
Post by: Scuba Jeremy on February 14, 2004, 01:43:37 PM
Is a tape flip really that hard? It does take practice to master the art, but damn.

I have a few MDs with 3-4 albums on there as LP2, and those sound "good" when I'm on the train or walking around in the city, but when I get home and turn off the lights, it's no good.

The only exception I could possibly make is listening back to that LP2 MD in my school's Audio Production 1 lab. Each station is equiped with a Tascam MD-350 deck in there for students to use for turning in projects. It sounded just fine when I routed it through the Midas Venice board and into ProTools. This leads me to believe that the ATRAC3 algorithm is pretty good, but the quality of the playback is limited (severly) by the playback unit. Sony portables make it sound about equal to an MP3 recorded as 96Kbps to my ear. Played back through a $700 pro deck is much, much better. But that's a problem, isn't it? Would I accept a trade with any LP in the lineage?

NO.

(well, maybe if I saw the Tascam MD-350 in the text file...)