Topic: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder

[adrianf74]

extra bits wont buy you anything if the preamps are junk... "TDB", as they say.

TDB... lol.  Fitting, no?

[breakonthru]

extra bits wont buy you anything if the preamps are junk... "TDB", as they say.

TDB... lol.  Fitting, no?

Theyre kinda killin it these days!
maybe there is hope for Deity to save face

[breakonthru]

also just because its 24-bit doesnt mean it cant be well implemented. take for example the dpa d:vice which is arguably one of the most adequate implementations of a basic pre and AD for our purposes. it uses the AKM5552VN which has 115dB of dynamic range

https://www.akm.com/content/dam/documents/products/audio/audio-adc/ak5552vn/ak5552vn-en-datasheet.pdf

a 5572 which still has relatively low power consumption gains 6 dB on this

https://www.akm.com/content/dam/documents/products/audio/audio-adc/ak5572en/ak5572en-en-datasheet.pdf

a 5578 with the channels summed can gain 6dB more, albeit being probably at the practical limits for power consumption

https://www.akm.com/content/dam/documents/products/audio/audio-adc/ak5578en/ak5578en-en-datasheet.pdf

good IC pres are cheap and common but it really depends on how much board space they can devote to a good analog gain stage. cleaner ADCs reduce the need for analog gain stage to an extent

all of this hits up against the wall of EIN of about 131dB. which easily fits into a 144dB 24bit container

[Psinka]

Guys...
I dont know how it is possible, but i get PR2 in next several days     
I ask seller where they get it - they told that their supplier in china set them 
It cost approx 280$ for me.

Do you know what's the funniest thing about all these? The fact that I live in Russia 

[grawk]

it's priced at Gotham, with a June delivery date:

https://www.gothamsound.com/product/pr-2-pocket-recorder

[tim in jersey]

Like a fool, I got in on the pre-order queue.

Hurray for being a beta tester!   

[breakonthru]

Guys...
I dont know how it is possible, but i get PR2 in next several days     
I ask seller where they get it - they told that their supplier in china set them 
It cost approx 280$ for me.

Do you know what's the funniest thing about all these? The fact that I live in Russia 

congrats on being “the guy”

Don’t let us down with your review!

[DavidPuddy]

Anyone know of a Europe/Canada/Japan dealer with the non-US version?

[voltronic]

That's a very attractive price point. And if it really does supply 5V, this tiny deck plus a set of DPA lavs would make a killer two-channel rig.

[grawk]

That's a very attractive price point. And if it really does supply 5V, this tiny deck plus a set of DPA lavs would make a killer two-channel rig.

My first test will probably be 4015gs

[adrianf74]

That's a very attractive price point. And if it really does supply 5V, this tiny deck plus a set of DPA lavs would make a killer two-channel rig.

Yup. That might be what I end up doing down the road if this thing delivers for when I need to do ultra stealth.

[grawk]

16 hours of 24/48 is pretty compelling. set up, hit record and then turn it off when you get home

[WiFiJeff]

That's a very attractive price point. And if it really does supply 5V, this tiny deck plus a set of DPA lavs would make a killer two-channel rig.

If you are recording two channels, it's a definite step backwards from the MMA-A -> iPhone (with Metarecorder) setup that's been around for six years.  That will do 24/96 and, with my old iPhone, run over 10 hours.  Unless the preamp or A/D clearly outclass the MMA-A, that would get me interested again.  Waiting for a convincing review to say that.

[voltronic]

That's a very attractive price point. And if it really does supply 5V, this tiny deck plus a set of DPA lavs would make a killer two-channel rig.

If you are recording two channels, it's a definite step backwards from the MMA-A -> iPhone (with Metarecorder) setup that's been around for six years.  That will do 24/96 and, with my old iPhone, run over 10 hours.  Unless the preamp or A/D clearly outclass the MMA-A, that would get me interested again.  Waiting for a convincing review to say that.

The sample rate limitation to 48 kHz is a bit odd, especially given that it can record in 24-bit fixed and 32-bit float formats. I wonder what chips they are using that can't do those things at 96 kHz.

Comparing specs, PR-2 EIN and dynamic range are 9 dB better than the MMA-A, but strangely, THD is worse by about the same amount. I will be interested to see some proper third-party measurements of this thing.

[breakonthru]

That's a very attractive price point. And if it really does supply 5V, this tiny deck plus a set of DPA lavs would make a killer two-channel rig.

If you are recording two channels, it's a definite step backwards from the MMA-A -> iPhone (with Metarecorder) setup that's been around for six years.  That will do 24/96 and, with my old iPhone, run over 10 hours.  Unless the preamp or A/D clearly outclass the MMA-A, that would get me interested again.  Waiting for a convincing review to say that.

The sample rate limitation to 48 kHz is a bit odd, especially given that it can record in 24-bit fixed and 32-bit float formats. I wonder what chips they are using that can't do those things at 96 kHz.

Comparing specs, PR-2 EIN and dynamic range are 9 dB better than the MMA-A, but strangely, THD is worse by about the same amount. I will be interested to see some proper third-party measurements of this thing.

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