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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #360 on: April 01, 2020, 01:57:12 AM »
my bad. the 10t and 10-ii have word clock in and out. the 3s and 6s do not
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #361 on: April 01, 2020, 08:55:16 AM »
So, what's the best way to power a 10 II?
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #362 on: April 01, 2020, 05:06:20 PM »
So, what's the best way to power a 10 II?
I meant to send you a link earlier. I also use the larger 11,000 mah as well. No USBc with the 10 is kind of a pain, but these work fine in the 6 and the couple times I used the 10. Ill send the Hirose Ted made me for these with it if youd like.
http://www.talentcell.com/products/12v-battery/12v-battery-8300mah.html
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #363 on: April 11, 2020, 09:32:03 PM »
The 64gb version of this 128gb card is on the sound devices approved list. Anyone using the 128 fb version?

SanDisk 128GB Extreme SDXC UHS-I Card - C10, U3, V30, 4K UHD, SD Card - SDSDXV5-128G-GNCIN https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H48412Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_x7MKEb3XRSC8N

How many gb do you need to run 32/48 with 8 channels for three hours anyway?  That’s about the most I would need to record for.
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #364 on: April 12, 2020, 07:37:24 AM »
I've had to wrestle with this kind of question in the past and have come up with my own rules of thumb based on previous recording lengths (because I'm too lazy to explicitly calculate the file sizes).  But, in researching your question, I found a terrific website that does the calculations for you:

http://www.theaudioarchive.com/TAA_Resources_File_Size.htm

So, for 32/48 with 8 channels for 3 hours, the result is 16.2 GB.

If you want the rule of thumb for 24/48, you'll be collecting 1 GB per hour for 2 channel (stereo).  For 32/48 it's 1.33 GB/hr for 2 channels.  (a slight underestimate based on the calculator result...)
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #365 on: April 12, 2020, 08:16:14 AM »
The 64gb version of this 128gb card is on the sound devices approved list. Anyone using the 128 fb version?

SanDisk 128GB Extreme SDXC UHS-I Card - C10, U3, V30, 4K UHD, SD Card - SDSDXV5-128G-GNCIN https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H48412Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_x7MKEb3XRSC8N

How many gb do you need to run 32/48 with 8 channels for three hours anyway?  That’s about the most I would need to record for.

id buy it and test it yourself. i had horrible luck with almost all cards over 32GB with the mixpre
you can always return or repurpose it

this is almost exactly the same
https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=191314.msg2305837#msg2305837

you can estimate filesizes here.

https://www.sounddevices.com/audio-recording-calculator/

just remember that actual card capacity is just over 90% of branded capacity
 (EG 128GB = 119ish)
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #366 on: April 12, 2020, 09:19:57 PM »
I've had to wrestle with this kind of question in the past and have come up with my own rules of thumb based on previous recording lengths (because I'm too lazy to explicitly calculate the file sizes).  But, in researching your question, I found a terrific website that does the calculations for you:

http://www.theaudioarchive.com/TAA_Resources_File_Size.htm

So, for 32/48 with 8 channels for 3 hours, the result is 16.2 GB.

If you want the rule of thumb for 24/48, you'll be collecting 1 GB per hour for 2 channel (stereo).  For 32/48 it's 1.33 GB/hr for 2 channels.  (a slight underestimate based on the calculator result...)

Awesome. Thanks. That means the 64gb (on the approved list) here is plenty of space.

SanDisk 64GB Extreme SDXC UHS-I Card - C10, U3, V30, 4K UHD, SD Card - SDSDXV6-064G-GNCIN https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H42L4TJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_L47KEb71PNKYR
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #367 on: April 16, 2020, 07:53:00 PM »
Anybody see a point in running a V3 in front of 32bit? 

I don’t think I’d ever sell my V3 but I don’t really see a benefit in 32 bit. Probably keep the V3 in a second bag for a backup rig or multiple stage scenario.
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #368 on: April 16, 2020, 08:20:27 PM »
bitrate wouldnt be a factor really. if you like the sound of the grace pre over the SD pre doesnt really matter if youre recording 32, 24, or even 16 bit on the backend.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #369 on: April 17, 2020, 03:43:17 AM »
Anybody see a point in running a V3 in front of 32bit? 
How about analog out, where you want to compare V3 output via analog vs digital!?
You may find you prefer V3 > analog > 32float for some style of music or particular mic configs.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #370 on: April 17, 2020, 08:06:48 AM »
Anybody see a point in running a V3 in front of 32bit? 
How about analog out, where you want to compare V3 output via analog vs digital!?
You may find you prefer V3 > analog > 32float for some style of music or particular mic configs.

good point.
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #371 on: April 17, 2020, 05:32:03 PM »
good point.
Thanks ;-)
It's also a good way to compare the V3 preamp itself versus the built-in pre in the recorder. You might prefer the V3!!
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #372 on: April 21, 2020, 07:44:43 PM »
What I’m used to with the R-44:

Import files and they are paired L/R stereo for each set of mics.

I haven’t gotten to play with my new MixPre10 yet, but is this the only way to do it?

https://youtu.be/Nt4cAbbegp4

I guess split the poly file in wave agent, and then link the L/R mics/files as a stereo file in audacity?
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #373 on: April 21, 2020, 08:53:04 PM »
What I’m used to with the R-44:

Import files and they are paired L/R stereo for each set of mics.

I haven’t gotten to play with my new MixPre10 yet, but is this the only way to do it?

https://youtu.be/Nt4cAbbegp4

I guess split the poly file in wave agent, and then link the L/R mics/files as a stereo file in audacity?

Just know that Wave Agent can't handle the 32bit files. I wish SD would fix this.
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Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre6 I, Sony PCM m10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #374 on: April 21, 2020, 09:01:36 PM »
What I’m used to with the R-44:

Import files and they are paired L/R stereo for each set of mics.

I haven’t gotten to play with my new MixPre10 yet, but is this the only way to do it?

https://youtu.be/Nt4cAbbegp4

I guess split the poly file in wave agent, and then link the L/R mics/files as a stereo file in audacity?

Just know that Wave Agent can't handle the 32bit files. I wish SD would fix this.



Geez. So, I’m that case, can audacity handle the poly wave files?  That might be easier.

Import poly > highlight left and right ISO > stereo pair. ?
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

 

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