Topic: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)

[Phil Zone]

if you have a windows computer give that a shot. format it with a different computer. just an idea no clue if it would work

[F.O.Bean]

It could just be that that particular card doesnt mesh well with the M10. I didnt even know Samsung made microSDHC Cards? I bet its just an incompatibility issue! Did you get it at a store or online? I use Sandisk and A-Data MicroSDHC cards with zero errors, so far at least I would just return it and try a card that has already been proven with the M10.

[dbindc]

I never got it to work correctly.  Bought it from Amazon so I don't think it was counterfeit although that appears to be an issue. Needless to say it's going back.  Maybe it was just a compatibility issue as Bean mentioned.  Needed something right away for Lock'n so just picked up another 16 GB ScanDisk like the one I already use. For future reference, which 32 GB cards are proven to work?

[F.O.Bean]

I never got it to work correctly.  Bought it from Amazon so I don't think it was counterfeit although that appears to be an issue. Needless to say it's going back.  Maybe it was just a compatibility issue as Bean mentioned.  Needed something right away for Lock'n so just picked up another 16 GB ScanDisk like the one I already use. For future reference, which 32 GB cards are proven to work?

I have [2] A-Data 32gb microsdhc cards and they work great! I also use A-Data 16gb microsdhc cards as well! Ive had great success with A-Data and Sandisk cards. I have [2] Sandisk 16gb cards and they are great too! I would just stick with A-Data and Sandisk cards, but as always, YMMV!

[earmonger]

I never got it to work correctly.  Bought it from Amazon so I don't think it was counterfeit although that appears to be an issue.

I test every card and flash drive with the free and well-established  h2testw, which will tell you if it's fake or bad.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/H2testw.shtml

Just remember, after you've done the h2testw test, to format the card again. The test completely fills the card with data.

[ArchivalAudio]

never had an issue with any one of my many transcend cards...

now I only buy class10  cards. overkill for audio but great for video.

[jerryfreak]

former R09-HR user, first night out last night with m10, running mk4v+cmr in hat>bbox>M10

completely blown away

taped maiden, megadeth, and anthrax, started plenty of preroll, still walked out with 3/4 on batteries.

super easy to use, sounds great

level metering is ideal. pull it out of your pocket to see the red record light and that -12 is flashing and its pretty damn idiot proof

heres the tapes (mp3s, will be upping flacs to dime when i get my upload acct back):

Iron Maiden: http://www.sendspace.com/file/o7o1y4
Megadeth: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4k5mov
Anthrax: http://www.sendspace.com/file/jhb15c

[yug du nord]

^line-in or mic-in?

[jerryfreak]

mic in, low sens, levels were around 4 and had me peaking at ~ -6dB.

[F.O.Bean]

Awesome Jerry! Now you FINALLY know what all the rage is about

[nulldogmas]

Okay, after reading all of the M10 love on this forum, I'm definitely interested in checking them out the next time I need a new recorder. My question to folks here: I currently have a pair of iRiver 320s, with Rockbox installed, which have served me extremely well. Aside from 24-bit recording, are there any other major improvements I'd notice with an M10? Or can I happily save my pennies until one of the 320s gives up the ghost?

[F.O.Bean]

Battery run times and the preamp is pretty good

[jerryfreak]

not writing the r09 off yet

im doing a bunch of mic in and line in tests with the m10 vs R09 now

as far as sound goes, they are identical to my ears

as far as input noise they are very similar. i see noise as high as -50 to -60 dB at the highest gain ranges

at comparable input levels, RMS noise level measured with 'statistics' using soundforge
mic in:
both R09 and M10:~ -79db

line in:
R09: -93.4dB
M10: -87.5dB

6dB is a fair amount if youre running levels low and normalizing....

[earmonger]

Battery life does also matter to many of us. PCM-M10 > R09 and R09HR.

Also...as feel goes...I've had other Sony gizmos, so obviously I'm used to their interface, but PCM-M10 makes me feel like I"m taking rational steps to record and R09 made me feel like I was talking to a robot.

YMMV. I don't think anyone with a R09HR should immediately change over to the PCM-M10--certainly it does the job well.  But when it wears out...you'll want to join our swarm. 

[udovdh]

What about the `24-bit` capabilities of the M10?