Topic: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 7)

[blg]

Asking this on behalf of a friend.  His line in jack on the m10 is giving him issues. Is there anyone you can send it to for repair or is he better off just buying a new one? From what he said the jack is loose and the signal is cutting in and out.

On the SBD question, i had no problems recording line in.  XLR out of the board to mini to m10. Worked perfectly.

Probably bad solder joint to the board, best to completely remove all the old solder and replace it with 63/37 eutectic solder.  Any electronics repair shop would be able to do this for you if you neither of you solder.

Thanks very much, i'll pass along the info.

[dyneq]

Food for thought: when I first started using mine, I had to make sure that the plug went all the way in to the jack. It looked like it was all the way in, but if I pressed on it, it would make one final little click and all was good. Also, did you try to clean the plug and jack? Here's a good instructable on cleaning:

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Clean-a-18-3.5mm-Headphone-Jack/

[yates7592]

Just a quick heads-up for anybody who's interested, that tripod mounting hole thread on the back of the M10 is universal amongst all Sony PCM recorders. So the Sony XLR-1 mic adaptor also fits perfectly with the M10 allowing easy use of mics with XLR's requiring phantom power:

[JM Charcot]

Does somebody know if the Sony XLR-1 is still available in Europe?

[F.O.Bean]

Just a quick heads-up for anybody who's interested, that tripod mounting hole thread on the back of the M10 is universal amongst all Sony PCM recorders. So the Sony XLR-1 mic adaptor also fits perfectly with the M10 allowing easy use of mics with XLR's requiring phantom power:

whered you get those 1/8" rubber hole covers at? My M10s dont leave my bags so I dont really need them, but Id like to have a pair regardless

[yates7592]

whered you get those 1/8" rubber hole covers at? My M10s dont leave my bags so I dont really need them, but Id like to have a pair regardless

I got them on eBay, but can't find the link now, they're there somewhere....

[yates7592]

Does somebody know if the Sony XLR-1 is still available in Europe?

No, it's discontinued. Ebay's your best bet.

[willndmb]

Just a quick heads-up for anybody who's interested, that tripod mounting hole thread on the back of the M10 is universal amongst all Sony PCM recorders. So the Sony XLR-1 mic adaptor also fits perfectly with the M10 allowing easy use of mics with XLR's requiring phantom power:

what is and where did you get the cap inside the mic in plug?
Tia

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Apparently it's a thing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100x-Clear-Rubber-Anti-Dust-Jack-Plug-Stopper-Cap-For-All-Cellphone-17-5X3-5MM-/301004498590?pt=US_Other_Cell_Phone_Accessories&hash=item461544269e

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xdust+plug&_nkw=dust+plug&_sacat=0&_from=R40

[F.O.Bean]

I dont have PayPal or a Debit/Credit card, but I'll def pitch in to get like [10] of them Whos willing to buy them?

[yates7592]

Excellent technical review of the M10 here:

http://kenrockwell.com/audio/sony/pcm-m10.htm

Has lots of info on self-noise, and also detailed max input and attenuation figures for each record level on the line and mic inputs.

[Napo]

Excellent technical review of the M10 here:

http://kenrockwell.com/audio/sony/pcm-m10.htm

Has lots of info on self-noise, and also detailed max input and attenuation figures for each record level on the line and mic inputs.

I am confused on the attenuanation figures. By reading past treads I thought that the attenuation was close to zero around 4-5 gain level. Where am I wrong?

Cheers, Mauro

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Never, ever rely on Ken Rockwell for info.  He normally pushes camera gear. In one article he'll say something is the best ever. And then he'll contradict himself by touting other gear.  There are vast, epic threads mocking him on that. He does have good info at times, but he also makes his living by being paid to push gear.  I was surprised when he ventured out of cameras and into audio with the piece on the m10. I think it actually may have been written by someone else, as a paid placement piece. Or he took data from someone else and wrote it up.  It seemed like an effort to expand his market into audio.

So while he does have excellent info at times, it is all very suspect.

[yates7592]

Excellent technical review of the M10 here:

http://kenrockwell.com/audio/sony/pcm-m10.htm

Has lots of info on self-noise, and also detailed max input and attenuation figures for each record level on the line and mic inputs.

I am confused on the attenuanation figures. By reading past treads I thought that the attenuation was close to zero around 4-5 gain level. Where am I wrong?


Cheers, Mauro

His 'attenuation' figures are based on attenuation below the maximum gain, so at  record level 10 attenuation is zero. This is different to the unity gain way of looking at attenuation.

The max input level figures look entirely reasonable and very consistent with what Sony, GuySonic and others have posted previously, except these figures are more detailed for every level step on the dial for both line and mic inputs - really useful info.

[jerryfreak]

Apparently it's a thing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100x-Clear-Rubber-Anti-Dust-Jack-Plug-Stopper-Cap-For-All-Cellphone-17-5X3-5MM-/301004498590?pt=US_Other_Cell_Phone_Accessories&hash=item461544269e

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xdust+plug&_nkw=dust+plug&_sacat=0&_from=R40

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