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Re: Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2007, 07:17:58 PM »
all these answers have been covered many times under the "iriver team" threads  ;D

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Re: Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719
« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2007, 01:27:16 AM »
after installation you MAY install the REP(recording enhancement pack)..just extract the files to your Iriver´s root directory and say "YES" for overwriting files:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/martin.scarratt/Rockbox/rockbox.zip
hey, Arni, I'm pretty happy with the "normal" builds, they do the work very good. But I want to try the REP...does it have any bugs or it works flawlessly?
I always used Mmmm´s most recent REP-builds and ha NO problems at all. taped a lot since I got my H140 almost 1 year ago. ;)
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Re: Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2007, 06:05:30 AM »

Thanks a ton! If I have any questions, I'll ask.

As usual...  ;)
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Re: Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719
« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2007, 06:49:21 AM »
The only problem with the Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719 combination is the Sony ECM-719. Don't ever use a Sony mic. The MZ-RH1 or the iHP-120/140 will make great recording when combined with an inexpensive battery box (I use Chris Church's tiny one-about $52 on E-Bay) and Sound Professionals or Church Audio omnis or cardiods costing around $120 or less. Do not use a mic that attaches directly to the recorder-get a corded one. This avoids any chance of recording noise made by the recorder. If what you are recording is fairly quiet, you may need a pre-amp instead of a battery box (or you can try battery box into mic in instead of into line in), but this is rarely a problem with rock concerts. It is very stealthy, and if you need to record longer than 94 minutes without changing discs, to my ears Hi-SP is basically indistinguishable from PCM. With Hi-SP you can record over 7 hours on 1 disc. The battery will last over 7 hours in that mode also.

I have made great recordings with my MZ-RH1. I don't care for having to use Sony's software to upload, but it's not that hard to get used to. The only thing I really dislike a lot about the MZ-RH1 is that when using line in (which is generally best when you have a battery box), the recorder automatically starts a new track when the volume drops enough. They can easily be combined and tracks put where you want them with audio editing software, however. 

I also recently picked up the iHp-120 and installed Rockbox. That shows great promise as well, but I haven't yet made a recording with it combined with a battery box (or pre-amp), so I can't report on it personally. From what I see on the internet, it will make great recordings with a pre-amp (the Church Audio ST-9100, which I have ordered, is highly recommended) and probably, in many cases, with just a battery box. I like the fact that you can upload the iHp-120 recordings by drag & drop and that it doesn't arbitrarily start new files when the volume drops. (I made one recording using just the recorder's internal pre-amp. The loud parts sounded great, but the quiet parts were fairly noisy.)
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Re: Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719
« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2007, 07:44:02 AM »
I also recently picked up the iHp-120 and installed Rockbox. That shows great promise as well, but I haven't yet made a recording with it combined with a battery box (or pre-amp), so I can't report on it personally. From what I see on the internet, it will make great recordings with a pre-amp (the Church Audio ST-9100, which I have ordered, is highly recommended) and probably, in many cases, with just a battery box. I like the fact that you can upload the iHp-120 recordings by drag & drop and that it doesn't arbitrarily start new files when the volume drops. (I made one recording using just the recorder's internal pre-amp. The loud parts sounded great, but the quiet parts were fairly noisy.)
grats to your gear, I´m using the same....2xRH1 + h140 rockboxed. ;)
I love both.
Yesterday I recorded the same song from cd on my home stereo with 2 RH1s...1st in PCM and 2nd in HI-SP.
Afterwards I listened to the recorded tracks not knowing and I really could NOT tell the difference ...what was PCM and what HI-SP.
Before this test I thought it must be audible, but to my ears it isn´t ;).
Using the RH1-mic-in for silent or moderate loud concerts has the advantage of not needing an external preamp ;).
SO this is the ultra-stealth gear setup.
1 RH1+bbox+HLSO(or SP-CMC-4U).
keep on taping! ;)

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Re: Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719
« Reply #65 on: June 14, 2007, 01:26:20 PM »
The only problem with the Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719 combination is the Sony ECM-719. Don't ever use a Sony mic. The MZ-RH1 or the iHP-120/140 will make great recording when combined with an inexpensive battery box (I use Chris Church's tiny one-about $52 on E-Bay) and Sound Professionals or Church Audio omnis or cardiods costing around $120 or less. Do not use a mic that attaches directly to the recorder-get a corded one. This avoids any chance of recording noise made by the recorder. If what you are recording is fairly quiet, you may need a pre-amp instead of a battery box (or you can try battery box into mic in instead of into line in), but this is rarely a problem with rock concerts. It is very stealthy, and if you need to record longer than 94 minutes without changing discs, to my ears Hi-SP is basically indistinguishable from PCM. With Hi-SP you can record over 7 hours on 1 disc. The battery will last over 7 hours in that mode also.

I have made great recordings with my MZ-RH1. I don't care for having to use Sony's software to upload, but it's not that hard to get used to. The only thing I really dislike a lot about the MZ-RH1 is that when using line in (which is generally best when you have a battery box), the recorder automatically starts a new track when the volume drops enough. They can easily be combined and tracks put where you want them with audio editing software, however. 

I also recently picked up the iHp-120 and installed Rockbox. That shows great promise as well, but I haven't yet made a recording with it combined with a battery box (or pre-amp), so I can't report on it personally. From what I see on the internet, it will make great recordings with a pre-amp (the Church Audio ST-9100, which I have ordered, is highly recommended) and probably, in many cases, with just a battery box. I like the fact that you can upload the iHp-120 recordings by drag & drop and that it doesn't arbitrarily start new files when the volume drops. (I made one recording using just the recorder's internal pre-amp. The loud parts sounded great, but the quiet parts were fairly noisy.)

hmm. never heard of that happening, is it something that can be changed with a menu setting? groups setting? something like that? neither of mine do that, either because they are not set to, or just dont, but i find it weird that the "new and improved" rh-1 would do something as dumb as that,when my older models do not.

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Re: Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719
« Reply #66 on: June 14, 2007, 02:19:10 PM »
hmm. never heard of that happening, is it something that can be changed with a menu setting? groups setting? something like that? neither of mine do that, either because they are not set to, or just dont, but i find it weird that the "new and improved" rh-1 would do something as dumb as that,when my older models do not.

When I tape off the board it happens every now and then but when using mics it never gets quiet enough to do an autosplit.  I dont think its a feature you can turn off but merging the tracks is easy enough to do in post on the computer or right on the disc.
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Re: Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719
« Reply #67 on: June 14, 2007, 03:13:24 PM »
Just an update, I ordered the ihp120 and Church Audio cardoid mics and battery box.

If I'm recording a comedian, should I use mic in or line in? (does it have this option? I haven't got it yet.)

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Re: Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719
« Reply #68 on: June 14, 2007, 06:07:08 PM »
Just an update, I ordered the ihp120 and Church Audio cardoid mics and battery box.

If I'm recording a comedian, should I use mic in or line in? (does it have this option? I haven't got it yet.)
mic+line-in are the same on the iriver ;).
there is only 1  1/8"(3.5mm)jack.
 
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