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Title: Neumann KM184 & KM183
Post by: One Cylinder on September 14, 2011, 04:58:12 PM
What's the going rate in the US for a pair of used KM184 mics?  Also, is there usually a substantial difference in the cost of a new pair of these mics vs. a new pair of the Neumann 183 omni's?

TIA.
Title: Re: Neumann KM184 & KM183
Post by: newplanet7 on September 14, 2011, 07:59:13 PM
Having not actually checked, I believe a stereo matched set of either NEW is around $1500.
There is no immediate price difference.
Some places if you actually call and semi-haggle you could get them for a little less.
Full compass usually says to call for a better price.

Is there a reason you would buy a FIXED omni?
What type of recording are you doing?
Title: Re: Neumann KM184 & KM183
Post by: John Willett on September 15, 2011, 06:55:08 AM
What's the going rate in the US for a pair of used KM184 mics?  Also, is there usually a substantial difference in the cost of a new pair of these mics vs. a new pair of the Neumann 183 omni's?

TIA.

They both retail for the same price - though you may get the 184s cheaper if they sell in much larger quantities than the 183.

But, please note, that Neumann changed their trade discount structure at the beginning of this year, so there are not the discounts there used to be - about 10% off is about the maximum nowadays.
Title: Re: Neumann KM184 & KM183
Post by: yltfan on September 15, 2011, 02:03:11 PM
Do a search in the Yard Sale, but used 184's seem to sell in the 900's.
Title: Re: Neumann KM184 & KM183
Post by: page on September 15, 2011, 02:08:27 PM
Do a search in the Yard Sale, but used 184's seem to sell in the 900's.

that sounds about right, but I'd have to check.
Title: Re: Neumann KM184 & KM183
Post by: F.O.Bean on September 15, 2011, 09:51:56 PM
And why do you need/want fixed capsules ??? If you go the 140 route instead of the 18x route, you can buy whichever capsules you want, but at least you have options vs. a fixed capsule ;)
Title: Re: Neumann KM184 & KM183
Post by: newplanet7 on September 16, 2011, 12:12:07 AM
Is there a reason you would buy a FIXED omni?
What type of recording are you doing?

And why do you need/want fixed capsules ??? If you go the 140 route instead of the 18x route, you can buy whichever capsules you want, but at least you have options vs. a fixed capsule ;)

Ha ha beaner! looks like we are thinking the same here.
Title: Re: Neumann KM184 & KM183
Post by: ghellquist on September 16, 2011, 03:01:10 AM
And why do you need/want fixed capsules ??? If you go the 140 route instead of the 18x route, you can buy whichever capsules you want, but at least you have options vs. a fixed capsule ;)
Hmm. Checking retail prices on the capsules, there is not that much cost difference between a Km184 and the corresponding capsule. You make your choices of course, but it has some advantages to having fully working mics instead of one headamp and several capsules.

// gunnar
Title: Re: Neumann KM184 & KM183
Post by: John Willett on September 16, 2011, 07:59:47 AM
And why do you need/want fixed capsules ??? If you go the 140 route instead of the 18x route, you can buy whichever capsules you want, but at least you have options vs. a fixed capsule ;)

And why buy the old KM 140 when you can buy the new KM 184-A?

The new KM-A / KM-D series has fully interchangeable capsules and all accessories like the old KM 100 series - but is newer and with a much lower self-noise.

I would get a KM 100 series nowadays (unless it's an addition to an existing system).