oh and fyi - these are made in ChinaI'm shocked. ;)
The cardiod cap looks similar to a Peluso hypercard cap, and the hyper and omni caps look like a Peluso wide-card cap. I'd bet they're identical housings but with different innards. :hmmm:
Now, how it sounds is a totally different story. Few if any companies in China are know for quality control, so you can end up with 10 mics all of which have a different sound.
Rick, once you get your recorder back, I am interested in hearing what you think.
Wayne
My vote is for the T+ mod UA-5 so we can hear what the mics sound like on their own.
mine arrived today. ;D
i did a quick test with the cards and they seem to be matched very close, within .5 dB of each other, so i'm pleased.
as for the sound of them, i'm going to hopefully run them on wednesday night for Of Montreal.
i'll be ~20' from the stage at most and i was thinking about running hypers for the opener and cards for the main set so we can get a feel for what both sound like.
i have a couple choices for what to run behind them. anyone have a preference between:
eaa psp2 > edirol r1 @24/44
or
oade t+ ua5 > h120 @ 16/48
i have no problem doing one or the other..................
PRICE INCREASE on the CK1 kit!!!
was 99.99
Now 149.99
high fives to everyone who got in on the intro pricing!
Im loving these things...
Jerry Joseph solo...these are the cardioid capsules...
http://www.archive.org/details/jj2007-03-31.avantoneck1
PRICE INCREASE on the CK1 kit!!!If you try here, http://www.proaudiosolutions.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=avantone&Search.x=0&Search.y=0, you might get them to honor their web pricing.
was 99.99
Now 149.99 (still worth every penny at this price!)
high fives to everyone who got in on the intro pricing!
Im loving these things...
Jerry Joseph solo...these are the cardioid capsules...
http://www.archive.org/details/jj2007-03-31.avantoneck1
Jerry Joseph solo...these are the cardioid capsules...
http://www.archive.org/details/jj2007-03-31.avantoneck1
What was your location relative to stage / PA / SBD?
I think the mic pad is a must... at least for this setup running the omnis.
Thanks for the review!
Agree - the switches are the least inspiring feature - time will tell...I had to use my fingernail move the switch...It didn't seem like they could be easily bumped. They seem to have some "spring" to them - so they sort of sink into the body if you bump them - kinda wierd. When I put the mic in the shockmount, I used the back to guide it through to avoid putting the cap end/switches through the shock webbing...
Hey Rick, did you listen to the CK-1's by themselves? Happen to have a clip of that?
Also - looks like Avantone has a stereo mic in the works - CK-40 -http://emusician.com/show_rept/2007_winter_namm_report/
...link but - no details on site...yet.
The Avantone CK-40 is a transformerless stereo FET mic ($499) with 1.25-inch diaphragms, Class A electronics, three patterns for each capsule (cardioid, figure-8, and omni), a -10 dB pad, and an 80 Hz rolloff switch.
As I've said, in my case; I got an email question from a guy named Christos and when he told me what he was doing, I realized that I had not even given consideration to a great area of recording!
Hi "O" and thank you for the Welcome!
One never knows how he'll be addressed when he comes in and in most cases gets perceived as "another manufacturer with products to sale" more than anything else. As I've said, in my case; I got an email question from a guy named Christos and when he told me what he was doing, I realized that I had not even given consideration to a great area of recording! The following day, he gave me the link in a 2nd email and I just realized that this was something that I was interested in as a engineer and musician.
I'm in here because I found the talk interesting and the people really "knowing their stuff". In addition, I got to hear our CK-1's on live recordings in a lot of different ways. That was just something that would take weeks for me to personally setup. So this place is just a great "hang".
Like I said, I don't get out much, but I want all of you to know that we're the most approachable company in the business. Test us. Christos did and I believe I answered him really quickly. It all boils down to respect and I've got lots of it for the people that I've "listened to" and heard record in here.
peace out,
-glen
Avant Electronics
Here's some more CK-1 fluffing fer ya!
Rose Hill Drive Wanee 2007 LMA (http://www.archive.org/details/rhd2007-04-14.flac16_avantoneCK-1cards)
Keller Williams Wanee 2007 LMA (http://www.archive.org/details/kw2007-04-14.flac16_avantoneCK-1cards)
Here's some more CK-1 fluffing fer ya!
Rose Hill Drive Wanee 2007 LMA (http://www.archive.org/details/rhd2007-04-14.flac16_avantoneCK-1cards)
Keller Williams Wanee 2007 LMA (http://www.archive.org/details/kw2007-04-14.flac16_avantoneCK-1cards)
I have a ck-1 unused...still sitting in the box (opened only to look at it).
99 bucks takes it. I'll eat the shipping and paypal
Move over Studio projects, move over Oktava...Their is a new kid on the block and he is about to take your lunch money!!!
thanks guys...
It feels good here...
-glen
Re-offer your release price of $99 to ts members & watch the sales fly
I have a ck-1 unused...still sitting in the box (opened only to look at it).
99 bucks takes it. I'll eat the shipping and paypal
Here's a sample of the Nickel Creek set from Wanee 2007.
The CK1 omni's are split about 15 feet at 8feet up, about 40 feet from the stage/center.
It's @ 240k lame mp3 compressed, about 1:50 sample. It's amazing to my ears.
Please remember that NC does not allow for electronic posting of their music, so that's why I made it a short sample. I will only leave it up for a few days.
Split Omni CK1 sample (http://www.johnsonfamilyweb.net/wanee2007/nc_wanee2007_splitomniCK1.mp3)
Picture shows where I was from the stage.
Glen,
I was just wondering and thinking of something that seems such an easy thing for your company to do to help you guys and the tapers here...
I noticed that you do not sell your product on your website, but rather through audio vendors (from looking at your page several times and not finding how to buy it on there).
Why dont you offer reduced prices for member here at TS.com - Which would cut out some of the middle-man markup.
Thus, making more profit for your company and reducing financial cost for the tapers.
Seems win/win to me, but I do not know how feasible/simple it is for you if you outsource various functions of your company.
-jon
Glen,
I was just wondering and thinking of something that seems such an easy thing for your company to do to help you guys and the tapers here...
I noticed that you do not sell your product on your website, but rather through audio vendors (from looking at your page several times and not finding how to buy it on there).
Why dont you offer reduced prices for member here at TS.com - Which would cut out some of the middle-man markup.
Thus, making more profit for your company and reducing financial cost for the tapers.
Seems win/win to me, but I do not know how feasible/simple it is for you if you outsource various functions of your company.
-jon
if you guys cant afford to pay a measly $300 for a pair of brand new ck-1s with three sets of caps then you should think about buying something else. instead, y'all are trying to haggle with the man who put in all the work to make them available at such an affordable price when you should be thanking him for making them so affordable. $300 is already super cheap and if you want the company to stay around buy the mics at the current price point.
Glen,
I was just wondering and thinking of something that seems such an easy thing for your company to do to help you guys and the tapers here...
I noticed that you do not sell your product on your website, but rather through audio vendors (from looking at your page several times and not finding how to buy it on there).
Why dont you offer reduced prices for member here at TS.com - Which would cut out some of the middle-man markup.
Thus, making more profit for your company and reducing financial cost for the tapers.
Seems win/win to me, but I do not know how feasible/simple it is for you if you outsource various functions of your company.
-jon
Sorry, but the eliminating the middle man would definately help Glen and somebody like a poor taper. Even if it does not help a taper - it is putting more money in Glen's pocket - which is a benefit to him...not hagglin' the guy on the price - I probably wont purchase new mics anytime soon...just was trying to help Glen out and others...sorry for being thoughtful!
Just a suggestion - sorry for thinking outside the box.
I love when people like you rovingsign sip haterade...
Glen,
I was just wondering and thinking of something that seems such an easy thing for your company to do to help you guys and the tapers here...
I noticed that you do not sell your product on your website, but rather through audio vendors (from looking at your page several times and not finding how to buy it on there).
Why dont you offer reduced prices for member here at TS.com - Which would cut out some of the middle-man markup.
Thus, making more profit for your company and reducing financial cost for the tapers.
Seems win/win to me, but I do not know how feasible/simple it is for you if you outsource various functions of your company.
-jon
Don't get too ruffled if Glen doesn't jump on this. Avantone might work the same way I do... I don't sell to end users because I sell only through established Pipe/Valve/Fitting distributors. I will not quote or sell to end users, OEM's, Fab Shops, etc because I protect my distributors. I will ship direct for my distributors, so they have confidence that even if the end user knows it is shipping from my warehouse, I won't turn around and take the customer away on the next sale. Not all companies work this way, every business is different... AND I am not saying that Avantone works this way, just pointing out a possible and legitimate reason they might not want or be able to sell direct to us... or anyone for that matter.
but it sure would be sweet if they could.
I would offer online purchasing power on their website...but, then again I do not own the business ;)
I would offer online purchasing power on their website...but, then again I do not own the business ;)
Think of it this way... if they did, we might end up paying the same price or maybe more for the mics... The added cost of creating the staff and resources needed to sell direct would defeat the purpose... music stores and websites are already set up to sell direct to customers.
Also, if I owned a music store and I had to compete against my own supplier, what would my motivation be to carry that manufacturer's product?
I would offer online purchasing power on their website...but, then again I do not own the business ;)
Think of it this way... if they did, we might end up paying the same price or maybe more for the mics... The added cost of creating the staff and resources needed to sell direct would defeat the purpose... music stores and websites are already set up to sell direct to customers.
Also, if I owned a music store and I had to compete against my own supplier, what would my motivation be to carry that manufacturer's product?
I would offer online purchasing power on their website...but, then again I do not own the business ;)
Think of it this way... if they did, we might end up paying the same price or maybe more for the mics... The added cost of creating the staff and resources needed to sell direct would defeat the purpose... music stores and websites are already set up to sell direct to customers.
Also, if I owned a music store and I had to compete against my own supplier, what would my motivation be to carry that manufacturer's product?
Bingo!
-glen
Avant Electronics
Just a quick heads up here, I just ordered a pair of these for $99 a piece to play around with from here:
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Avant_Electronics_CK_1_FET_Pencil_Microphone_p/9683.htm
Although I do feel $149 a piece is still a great deal for mics with 3 caps.
Just a quick heads up here, I just ordered a pair of these for $99 a piece to play around with from here:
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Avant_Electronics_CK_1_FET_Pencil_Microphone_p/9683.htm
Although I do feel $149 a piece is still a great deal for mics with 3 caps.
I ordered a pair earlier this week from Star Pro Audio at that price. Two days later they sent me an email saying that 1)the price has gone up and 2) they were out of stock. So I bought KLowe's for $99 and then picked one up $149.
But, I honestly didn't mind paying a little more
if you guys cant afford to pay a measly $300 for a pair of brand new ck-1s with three sets of caps then you should think about buying something else. instead, y'all are trying to haggle with the man who put in all the work to make them available at such an affordable price when you should be thanking him for making them so affordable. $300 is already super cheap and if you want the company to stay around buy the mics at the current price point.
if you guys cant afford to pay a measly $300 for a pair of brand new ck-1s with three sets of caps then you should think about buying something else. instead, y'all are trying to haggle with the man who put in all the work to make them available at such an affordable price when you should be thanking him for making them so affordable. $300 is already super cheap and if you want the company to stay around buy the mics at the current price point.
Really! & With shockmounts.
T+
Just a quick heads up here, I just ordered a pair of these for $99 a piece to play around with from here:
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Avant_Electronics_CK_1_FET_Pencil_Microphone_p/9683.htm
Although I do feel $149 a piece is still a great deal for mics with 3 caps.
Someone in this thread mentioned something about one of the rubber bands shooting off on their shock mount. Yeah, that happened to me as well today. Popped off and have no idea which direction it went. I wrote it off as a loss. I also didn't have any the extras in my gear bag. Not the end of the world.
Here is another ck-1 show for your listening pleasure. I'm very pleased with how it turned out. It was VERY windy that day, and while I have no wind noise (dead rats) there is some phase issues that can be heard. Very nice bass response. I was maybe 35 feet from the stage dead center.
http://www.archive.org/details/um2007-04-22 (http://www.archive.org/details/um2007-04-22)
let me know what you folks think....
ck-1 (cards) > apogee mini-mp > Edirol R-1 16bit/44.1k
Just a quick heads up here, I just ordered a pair of these for $99 a piece to play around with from here:
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Avant_Electronics_CK_1_FET_Pencil_Microphone_p/9683.htm
Although I do feel $149 a piece is still a great deal for mics with 3 caps.
they are now $149 at Front End Audio.
I would like to add, seeing others talking preamps for these mics, I recommend avoiding running UA-5's with the ck-1's, as there is something either with differing impedences, or the UA-5's just don't have quite enough juice to properly run them. I can't say for sure whether it is just the Oade modded UA-5's or all of them, but for some reason they just don't match up well.
Just wanted to give others a heads up if they were considering running that particular combo, as they work beautifully with my V3 and many other preamps as you can tell from the samples throughout this thread.Quote
could you be a little more specific as to why you think the UA-5 is no good for these mics? I don't own a ua-5 or plan on getting one, but i'm just curious as to what issues you have. Have you tried multiple ua-5s? or just one. These are a great entry level (price wise at least) mic and the ua-5 is a good entry level (again, price wise) pre so several newcomers may benefit from more elaboration.