Topic: Mic stands for on stage/stage lip

[bryonsos]

OK, I've become a covert. I'll take snake channels for on stage over SBD in many situations now. So far, I've been lucky and have been able to clamp to something on stage, or the sound guy had an extra stand or two I could borrow. I'd prefer to be independent and have my own compact stands. They've got some deals going on at Sam Ash right now, but I'm on the fence as to which stands would be the best combination of function and weight. I like these kick drum stands, but wonder if the solid base is worth the weight:

http://www.samash.com/p/On%20Stage_MS7920B%20Kick%20Drum%20or%20Amp%20Microphone%20Stand_-49993697

These are tripod boom stands, so they're significantly lighter, but may get knocked over more easily, they also allow for higher mic placement:

http://www.samash.com/p/Quik-Lok_A341%20Short%20Tripod%20Microphone%20Stand%20wTelescoping%20Boom_-49992570

What do y'all think? Opinions and other options are most welcome. Thanks in advance!

[Walstib62]

Stick to the short kick drum stands. I would think it rare that a band would let you run any higher than a foot or two, in most situations. Or just buy both so I can borrow some more of your gear.

[flipp]

an even cheaper option with a three foot base for stability (also good for avoiding obstacles onstage) and it folds for easy transport plus it comes with an extension pole that can be used seperately

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253077-REG/Impact_LS_3S_Two_Section_Back_Light.html

< thanks to gutbucket for the original link that shows the base can also be used with other things to get it just exactly perfect >

[achalsey]

Even cheaper:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mini-Light-Stand-Photo-Video-Studio-Lighting-Backlight-Stand-Free-Ship-/110788823345?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cb874931#ht_3012wt_1150

I bought one that is almost identical (the original seller doesn't have them listed anymore, and is 2 inches taller/ bigger footprint) and its works great.

[acidjack]

an even cheaper option with a three foot base for stability (also good for avoiding obstacles onstage) and it folds for easy transport plus it comes with an extension pole that can be used seperately

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253077-REG/Impact_LS_3S_Two_Section_Back_Light.html

< thanks to gutbucket for the original link that shows the base can also be used with other things to get it just exactly perfect >

This is what I use.  FWIW the only slightly more expensive Manfrotto version (which I also have) is, IMHO, a bit better quality - the whole thing is tighter feeling, less prone to rotate around.  And maybe a smidge lighter, but I could be making that up.

[bryonsos]

Even cheaper:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mini-Light-Stand-Photo-Video-Studio-Lighting-Backlight-Stand-Free-Ship-/110788823345?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cb874931#ht_3012wt_1150

I bought one that is almost identical (the original seller doesn't have them listed anymore, and is 2 inches taller/ bigger footprint) and its works great.

I'm liking this one! I like the B&H one too. Thanks, and keep 'em coming.

[flicflac]

OK, I've become a covert. I'll take snake channels for on stage over SBD in many situations now. So far, I've been lucky and have been able to clamp to something on stage, or the sound guy had an extra stand or two I could borrow. I'd prefer to be independent and have my own compact stands. They've got some deals going on at Sam Ash right now, but I'm on the fence as to which stands would be the best combination of function and weight. I like these kick drum stands, but wonder if the solid base is worth the weight:

http://www.samash.com/p/On%20Stage_MS7920B%20Kick%20Drum%20or%20Amp%20Microphone%20Stand_-49993697

These are tripod boom stands, so they're significantly lighter, but may get knocked over more easily, they also allow for higher mic placement:

http://www.samash.com/p/Quik-Lok_A341%20Short%20Tripod%20Microphone%20Stand%20wTelescoping%20Boom_-49992570

What do y'all think? Opinions and other options are most welcome. Thanks in advance!

Beat the Sam Ash price by 5$
http://cnydjsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=52&products_id=178

[jbell]

I also have this stand and it is perfect for onstage!

Even cheaper:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mini-Light-Stand-Photo-Video-Studio-Lighting-Backlight-Stand-Free-Ship-/110788823345?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cb874931#ht_3012wt_1150

I bought one that is almost identical (the original seller doesn't have them listed anymore, and is 2 inches taller/ bigger footprint) and its works great.

[Hypnocracy]

The Kick Drum with the heavy metal foot is the one...Even had a Guitar player comment that stand was so small it was no problem to ever put it on his stage...

I like it when floor space is tight on bar stages...the three legs can get in the way...and I use the three leg stands unless I can barrow Walstibs kick drum stands

 

[Walstib62]

We've come full circle

[cybergaloot]

Very small: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photographic-Mini-Light-Stand-Tripod-Studio-Lightstand-/260953087313?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc2041d51

I have a pair of these that have worked very well for me: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Series-Tripods-Stands-Light-Stand-40cm-16-40cm-Lightstand-mini-lightstand-NEW-/370545987021?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5646430dcd

[F.O.Bean]

Even cheaper:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mini-Light-Stand-Photo-Video-Studio-Lighting-Backlight-Stand-Free-Ship-/110788823345?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cb874931#ht_3012wt_1150

I bought one that is almost identical (the original seller doesn't have them listed anymore, and is 2 inches taller/ bigger footprint) and its works great.

I'm liking this one! I like the B&H one too. Thanks, and keep 'em coming.

[bhtoque]

I use the kick drum stand you linked to.

The 30" height you get, plus the small footprint makes it a winner on stage.

I've also stuck a 3' boom arm on top for more height stage lip. The small heavy base makes it work where a leg sticking out would have been a big problem.

Holds two pairs of full body mics no problem.

JAson

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I have one that you can borrow indefinitely... 

Terry

[One Cylinder]

The only potential issue w/ the previously mentioned stand is its max height. If an artist or venue doesn't want you to run on stage, but is ok w/ stage lip, 2' might only get your mics a couple inches above the stage floor. Of course, if you're primarily taping the same bands, at the same venues, and they are cool w/ on-stage -  then not a problem... FWIW I've got a small Bogen stand that works great for both on-stage and stage-lip. It collapses to about the same height as the previously mentioned stand, but can extend up to 4' if needed.  It also has the stubby 3 fold out legs so it's very stable.....

[twoodruff]

i just bought this one from a recommendation from nolafishwater

http://www.adorama.com/LTSB3.html

[F.O.Bean]

I have one that you can borrow indefinitely... 

Terry

Really Terry? I dont do onstage/stage-lip too often anymore since a few venues here in da burgh wont allow us to do Onstage/Lip anymore Id LOVE to have one handy if/when Id need it tho

So, PM sent!

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I have one that you can borrow indefinitely... 

Terry

Really Terry? I dont do onstage/stage-lip too often anymore since a few venues here in da burgh wont allow us to do Onstage/Lip anymore Id LOVE to have one handy if/when Id need it tho

So, PM sent!

The offer was for Bryon, who lives in Raleigh, just a few miles away from me... 

Terry

[bryonsos]

Thanks again for all the input. I ended up getting a pair of the kick drum stands, but in the course of researching options, I found this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Nu-Era-Tabletop-Mic-Stand/dp/B003VYBD58/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332253850&sr=8-1

I figured that for ~&20 shipped for a pair it was worth a try. These are actually pretty well built, and have a wide base so they're pretty stable. It will also be easy to tape the legs down for added security. 16 in height is plenty for most on stage purposes. The included clips are hard plastic, I won't use them since I have plenty of clips that I like. Two of them will fit in one of the included bags. The bag has a strap, so I'm going to loop it through my gear bag strap for carrying into the show. Here's a couple iphone pics that shows how compact they are, and one for scale when they're fully open.

[tgakidis]

I use a couple standard vocal mic stands with tripod legs that I chopped down.

[SmokinJoe]

Kick drum stands are great for smaller mics... an active setup, or a set of typical SD pencil mics (AKG460, etc).  If you start clamping 2 or 3 set of mics on there, or have something heavy like a pair of ADK-TL's,  I use a small tripod... I think it's intended for micing a guitar cabinet or something.  Min height is probably 18" and max height is probably 36".  I typically shoot for about knee high on the musician, and nobody has every complained.

[bryonsos]

Kick drum stands are great for smaller mics... an active setup, or a set of typical SD pencil mics (AKG460, etc).  If you start clamping 2 or 3 set of mics on there, or have something heavy like a pair of ADK-TL's,  I use a small tripod... I think it's intended for micing a guitar cabinet or something.  Min height is probably 18" and max height is probably 36".  I typically shoot for about knee high on the musician, and nobody has every complained.

Generally I run omnis AB on stage, so there will only be 1 mic/stand. I tried putting 1 ADK on it and it's pretty stable, but I'll still tape the legs down just in case. I'm pretty happy with these for traveling light or if I'm not sure if the band or venue will be cool with on stage. Not much weight or bulk to carry. When I know I'm good to go, I'll use the kick drum stands. For XY etc. I may get one of these, but so far I've been mostly happy with AB:

i just bought this one from a recommendation from nolafishwater

http://www.adorama.com/LTSB3.html

[NOLAfishwater]

if you loosen the nut on the side, can the mics rotate around in the stand until you retighten, or do they only face one way?

Thanks again for all the input. I ended up getting a pair of the kick drum stands, but in the course of researching options, I found this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Nu-Era-Tabletop-Mic-Stand/dp/B003VYBD58/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332253850&sr=8-1

I figured that for ~&20 shipped for a pair it was worth a try. These are actually pretty well built, and have a wide base so they're pretty stable. It will also be easy to tape the legs down for added security. 16 in height is plenty for most on stage purposes. The included clips are hard plastic, I won't use them since I have plenty of clips that I like. Two of them will fit in one of the included bags. The bag has a strap, so I'm going to loop it through my gear bag strap for carrying into the show. Here's a couple iphone pics that shows how compact they are, and one for scale when they're fully open.

[bryonsos]

if you loosen the nut on the side, can the mics rotate around in the stand until you retighten, or do they only face one way?

Thanks again for all the input. I ended up getting a pair of the kick drum stands, but in the course of researching options, I found this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Nu-Era-Tabletop-Mic-Stand/dp/B003VYBD58/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332253850&sr=8-1

I figured that for ~&20 shipped for a pair it was worth a try. These are actually pretty well built, and have a wide base so they're pretty stable. It will also be easy to tape the legs down for added security. 16 in height is plenty for most on stage purposes. The included clips are hard plastic, I won't use them since I have plenty of clips that I like. Two of them will fit in one of the included bags. The bag has a strap, so I'm going to loop it through my gear bag strap for carrying into the show. Here's a couple iphone pics that shows how compact they are, and one for scale when they're fully open.

Yes, they can rotate. That reminds me, the one minor complaint is that when the nut/thumb screw is loosened, you can pull the extension pole + mic/clip out. It doesn't have anything at the end of the tube to stop it from coming out. Not a deal breaker for me since the screw holds it very firmly when it's engaged, just something to be aware of.

[bryonsos]

Here's a pic with an ADK mounted. That's a 24 in level next to it, it's probably not clear, but the top of the mic is at 21.5 in.

[ellaguru]

an even cheaper option with a three foot base for stability (also good for avoiding obstacles onstage) and it folds for easy transport plus it comes with an extension pole that can be used seperately

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253077-REG/Impact_LS_3S_Two_Section_Back_Light.html

< thanks to gutbucket for the original link that shows the base can also be used with other things to get it just exactly perfect >

looks like the perfect one to me...plus you can use the supplied extension bar/pole in other applications.

im ordering 2.

chris