Topic: Warning signs before an AD1000 word clock goes kafluey ?

[Tim]

memphis

[marc0789]

I personally feel that it is sonically superior to any of the new generation a/d's...

I agree.

ditto, although I find the mme, when run line-in, to be very, very close and close enough for me.

[ethan]

I personally feel that it is sonically superior to any of the new generation a/d's...

I agree.

ditto, although I find the mme, when run line-in, to be very, very close and close enough for me.

Yeah one thing I'd say is I never like the apogee preamps on their AD's. External always does better.

[Nick's Picks]

Mme...
i've been wanting to play with one recently.

[Craig T]

the external word clock is an interesting idea to keep the ad1k's running, but my question would be how much influence on the sound does the word clock have?  I thought one of the strong points of the Apogee units was the superior clock.  someone should compare internal vs external on a fully functional ad1k.

[ethan]

the external word clock is an interesting idea to keep the ad1k's running, but my question would be how much influence on the sound does the word clock have?  I thought one of the strong points of the Apogee units was the superior clock.  someone should compare internal vs external on a fully functional ad1k.

Yeah the low gitter wc could indeed be a factor...Do we know how the V3's and AD1k's compare on paper?

[Nick's Picks]

I would think that using an external a/ds WC output into the ad1k would sort of defeat the purpose, no?

[ethan]

I would think that using an external a/ds WC output into the ad1k would sort of defeat the purpose, no?

Read the thread...we're talking about using an external AD to provide a WC sync source to an AD1K with a *BAD* word clock...

[Xpanding Man]

i'm still very curious to hear how this comes out.....my WC is questionable 

[Nick's Picks]

i've been reading the thread since the begining...but thanks for directions. ;-)

pardon my ignorance...but isnt a WC signal digital?  and if you are passing said signal to the apgogee are you not bypassing what makes it sound so good in the first place?

[dnsacks]

nick -- i believe that all the word clock does is provide the a>d with the timing info necessary to parse out samples (a digital "click track" if you will).  Thus, if an external word clock accurately instructs the ad1000 to create 44,100 of its aurally superior samples per second, the result should be no worse (perhaps better if more accurate) than what the ad1000's internal word clock could do.

[Nick's Picks]

right...
thats what I thought.  where i'm loosing this is would the signal keep the 1k characteristics we all like?

[bluegrass_brad]

right...
thats what I thought.  where i'm loosing this is would the signal keep the 1k characteristics we all like?

It should sound the same, as the word clock basically just tells the converter  the "where" to sample, and doesnt really change the "how" of it...if you get what Im trying to say.  It would be useful for aligning audio with other sources with a word clock out, preventing drift. But shouldnt change the way the a/d conversion is done.

[Nick's Picks]

ok..
I have understood fully what the WC does, having played with the BIG  BEN a while.
but what I didn't get was how the signal was affected, other than timing issues w/the clock.

in my experience, there was no A/D stage involved (this is on playback) so it was just a digital signal being fed to the master WC, who then sent that on down the line.

in this scenarieo..you are saying that you would send an Apogee two signals.  one analog..and the other WC.  the 1k would then do the a/d conversion ....yet bypass its own WC in hopes it will lock on and use that in its process before passing a stable s/pdif signal.

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