Topic: Running mics through the snake and phantom

[BayTaynt3d]

Also - remember - some/most snakes have channels that go from the board back to the stage...(Not just stage > board..) So you can also run the board feed back through the snake to your deck (which would have to be near the stage/snake  - - another approach.

Yeah, but most likely that will end up being a LONG UNBALANCED run = not good. If you want to take advantage of the "returns," you're way better off using turnarounds (m-to-m and f-to-f XLR adapters) and still running your mics back to the SBD (b/c that will be a balanced run).

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

Don't discount onstage Dana.  I've had great success running matrix this way for HBRSB...although last month when they were here I tried MS 20 feet in front of the stage w/ a board.  I really was happy with that result.  Good luck.  Josh is a way cool soundman.  He'll set ya up and help ya.  I had a bad board channel at that show and he moved shit around till it worked!   

[halleyscomet8]

Don't discount onstage Dana.  I've had great success running matrix this way for HBRSB...although last month when they were here I tried MS 20 feet in front of the stage w/ a board.  I really was happy with that result.  Good luck.  Josh is a way cool soundman.  He'll set ya up and help ya.  I had a bad board channel at that show and he moved shit around till it worked!  

 i second that. josh is a soper nice guy and easy to aproach. have fun and upload it to LMA

[JiB97]

Allow me to throw in my suggestion:
Since omnis are out of the question at the Rhythm room, I would take a board feed and run it into the R4, and either use your 483's or maybe run M/S with TL's.  Hell, you could even run one TL as the side channel, and maybe a 481 as the mid channel.

I have a feeling M/S would sound really nice in the Rhythm Room because of the way those speakers are set-up.  It would be a lot of post-work to blend the SBD and then have to decode M/S, but I feel this might give you the most options, if you don't decide to run onstage and use the house snake.

[china_rider]

Hmmmm.... That is an Idea... I have not done m/s yet.  With the location of the SBD it may be hard to get the patch and get the mics in the middle of the room.  My cables are long enough... I guess I could tape them down.  Dammit.... Now you got me thinking.    If I ran the TLs M/S I could still bring the 480s to run through your rig in case the MS does not turn out.

EDIT: Duh... could hopefully still use the snake for M/S and go stage lip.

[JiB97]

Hmmmm.... That is an Idea... I have not done m/s yet.  With the location of the SBD it may be hard to get the patch and get the mics in the middle of the room.  My cables are long enough... I guess I could tape them down.  Dammit.... Now you got me thinking.    If I ran the TLs M/S I could still bring the 480s to run through your rig in case the MS does not turn out.

EDIT: Duh... could hopefully still use the snake for M/S and go stage lip.

Ya, I think that the SBD is probably like no more than 20 ft from where you could set up your stand.

Good call on using the 480s just in case.  Could even run them through your W-Mod, into my JB3 @ 48khz.  Lot of options.  Hopefully Brian will show up, we'll have a nice little section going on.

I'm really hoping the crowd is respectful, and not the typical talk-fest that the Rhythm Room can be.

[gratefulphish]

Per a suggestion from mmmatt a while back, I carry around 4 XLR barrels to do just that:  4 x XLR-f | XLR-f barrels + 4 x XLR-m | XLR-m barrels.  Let's me turnaround the snake lines running from board > stage so they then run stage > board.

Did you mean 4 x XLR-M>XLR-F barrels, and vice versa? Otherwise, they just sound like barrel connectors.

[gratefulphish]

In response to the OP, in this situation, if there is essentially no on-stage sound, then I would either go with the stand in the room, (but I always get sketched running my cables across traffic, even taping them down) or, it sounds like the PA is up high, so if there is somewhere to clamp up top and hang your mics, and run the cables along the ceiling back to the board avoiding the cables on the ground.  My preferred MO in these situations.  Superclamps rule.

[BayTaynt3d]

Per a suggestion from mmmatt a while back, I carry around 4 XLR barrels to do just that:  4 x XLR-f | XLR-f barrels + 4 x XLR-m | XLR-m barrels.  Let's me turnaround the snake lines running from board > stage so they then run stage > board.

Did you mean 4 x XLR-M>XLR-F barrels, and vice versa? Otherwise, they just sound like barrel connectors.

You need 1 F-to-F XLR (cause that turns a M into a F) and 1 M-to-M XLR (cause that turns a F into a M) adapter to run one channel backwards through the returns.

[gratefulphish]

You need 1 F-to-F XLR (cause that turns a M into a F) and 1 M-to-M XLR (cause that turns a F into a M) adapter to run one channel backwards through the returns.

Oh, I see now.  DOH!  Note to add to pack.  Any preferred brand for the connectors?