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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2005, 04:43:30 PM »
NTFS filesystems has no file size restrictions and no file splits are needed on any type of file. I wish these portable recorders would take other filesystems into consideration when being made. Especially $2K-$10k ones.

NTFS is proprietary.


as is FAT32...the only non-proprietary file systems I can think of are EXT2, EXT3, ReiserFS and other *NIX file systems.


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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2005, 05:09:12 PM »
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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2005, 05:43:49 PM »
NTFS filesystems has no file size restrictions and no file splits are needed on any type of file. I wish these portable recorders would take other filesystems into consideration when being made. Especially $2K-$10k ones.

NTFS is proprietary.


as is FAT32...the only non-proprietary file systems I can think of are EXT2, EXT3, ReiserFS and other *NIX file systems.

Yeah, I know its proprietary, but would be a better alternative to FAT32 IMO. Just stating that I wish other filesystems would be given a chance to make these limitations a thing of the past. I know there is nothing anyone can do about and it is all about the greatest good for the most people. What happens when Windows Vista/Longhorn comes along. It is based on a new filesystem I think. Could get really interesting!
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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2005, 05:52:48 PM »
Yeah, I know its proprietary, but would be a better alternative to FAT32 IMO. Just stating that I wish other filesystems would be given a chance to make these limitations a thing of the past. I know there is nothing anyone can do about and it is all about the greatest good for the most people. What happens when Windows Vista/Longhorn comes along. It is based on a new filesystem I think. Could get really interesting!

This is really OT, but Longhorn will not include the new MS file system.  The file system was contributing greatly to MS's delay on Longhorn (which is now officially Windows Vista).

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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2005, 06:03:49 PM »
Yeah, I know its proprietary, but would be a better alternative to FAT32 IMO. Just stating that I wish other filesystems would be given a chance to make these limitations a thing of the past. I know there is nothing anyone can do about and it is all about the greatest good for the most people. What happens when Windows Vista/Longhorn comes along. It is based on a new filesystem I think. Could get really interesting!

This is really OT, but Longhorn will not include the new MS file system.  The file system was contributing greatly to MS's delay on Longhorn (which is now officially Windows Vista).

even if Vista used the delayed WinFS file system, MS would still HAVE to support FAT32 file systems, if only for compatability reasons.

I'm not sure where the person above got his info that NTFS has no file size limitations...that is just false!
while NTFS has file limitations that we will probably never see/use(they are extremely large), the problem is that audio apps hard code the 2GB WAV limitation so we still effectively have to deal with the 2GB barrier even on the NTFS file system.
I personally dont know of any audio apps(on Win anyways) that will open/save a WAV file >2GB...thats why many people use the W64 format, or SDII(extended), instead of WAV for 24/96 files.


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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2005, 06:53:59 PM »
Think somewhere during these 25 pages of Part IV we'll actually get a Microtracker in our hands to use?  Man I hope so. :drool:
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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2005, 07:05:18 PM »

I'm not sure where the person above got his info that NTFS has no file size limitations...that is just false!


Say what? The only limitations are on size of your disks, but have been verified to work up to 2TB. So NTFS has no limitations to a files size. Sorry to be off-topic!

"This flexible system allows files to be extended in size virtually indefinitely. In fact, under NTFS, there is no maximum file size. A single file can be made to take up the entire contents of a volume (less the space used for the MFT itself and other internal structures and overhead.)"

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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2005, 07:34:31 PM »
Here's an email response on my inquiry into an updated firmware that addresses the 2gb file limitation.

"The 2 gig limit is a limitation of the file format (FAT32). We will a have a firmware update coming that will allow a continuous recording that will split at the 2 gig point.
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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2005, 07:56:30 PM »
From the manual:
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The MicroTrack 24/96 will automatically
assign a name to the file in the format “FILExxxx.eee” where xxxx is a number from 0001 to 9999 and eee is either “wav” or “mp3.”
There doesn't appear to be a way to change the file name by using just the MT. Presumably, the first file recorded will be named "FILE0001.wav". Now, when you're transfering the file from the CF card to an on-the-go drive, would it overwrite an existing FILE0001.wav file already present on the OTG drive? This would obviously be a big problem...

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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2005, 08:07:21 PM »
Don't have a file of the same name on the OTG drive. The way I read it, the MT will continue naming the files from 0001 - 9999. I don't know about you, but I don't think I'll ever get to 9999.
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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2005, 08:08:50 PM »
From the manual:
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The MicroTrack 24/96 will automatically
assign a name to the file in the format “FILExxxx.eee” where xxxx is a number from 0001 to 9999 and eee is either “wav” or “mp3.”
There doesn't appear to be a way to change the file name by using just the MT. Presumably, the first file recorded will be named "FILE0001.wav". Now, when you're transfering the file from the CF card to an on-the-go drive, would it overwrite an existing FILE0001.wav file already present on the OTG drive? This would obviously be a big problem...

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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2005, 08:10:30 PM »
what hes saying is, if you transfer your first set from the MT to your otg drive, it will be named 001, once you reformat the cf card and start the next set, that file name will be 001 also, since the microtracker would presumably see that file as the first since it is, it doesnt count how many sets you tape ;)
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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2005, 08:15:09 PM »
Okay, I've been doing a few experiments here w/ my digital camera and my OTG drive. I took a pic, and loaded it into the drive. I then erased the camera memory, took another pic, and then loaded that into the drive. I was relieved to find that, even though the files had the same name, a new folder was created every time I uploaded the pics. So the same-named pics were in different folders. I expect the MT will do the same!

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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2005, 08:24:49 PM »
Okay, I've been doing a few experiments here w/ my digital camera and my OTG drive. I took a pic, and loaded it into the drive. I then erased the camera memory, took another pic, and then loaded that into the drive. I was relieved to find that, even though the files had the same name, a new folder was created every time I uploaded the pics. So the same-named pics were in different folders. I expect the MT will do the same!

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what kinda of OTG drive do you have? and how is it powered?

sounds like i wanna grab the same one, cause i bet not EVERY otg drive starts a new folder, tho i really have no clue ???
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Re: M-Audio MicroTracker details **PART IV**
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2005, 08:40:35 PM »
Okay, I've been doing a few experiments here w/ my digital camera and my OTG drive. I took a pic, and loaded it into the drive. I then erased the camera memory, took another pic, and then loaded that into the drive. I was relieved to find that, even though the files had the same name, a new folder was created every time I uploaded the pics. So the same-named pics were in different folders. I expect the MT will do the same!

SWEET, HUGE +T man!

what kinda of OTG drive do you have? and how is it powered?

sounds like i wanna grab the same one, cause i bet not EVERY otg drive starts a new folder, tho i really have no clue ???
I have this OTG drive enclosure and an 80GB Fujitsu HD (you can use any brand notebook HD you'd like), about $150 for both. This enclosure seems very robust, pretty much bulletproof. (figure of speech warning - don't actually shoot it!  ;D ) It has an internal battery that lasts for 2 hours continuous use, plenty of time for our purposes. It is recharged either through the USB cord or an included AC cord.

I suspect every OTG drive will create a new folder every time, shouldn't be a problem. I was just freaking out there for a bit, I so want my MT to get here now! Or at least in time for the NOMAS show next friday.

 

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