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24 bit upload to LMA???
« on: December 16, 2006, 07:09:24 PM »
I tried to upload some 24 bit files to LMA using transmit and every time one file finished the upload would disconnect. I looked to see if LMA has a special 24 bit contribution section but couldn't find any thing and I checked my preferences but could not find any thing I needed to check. I have uploaded plenty of 16 bit shows so I know my program works. Please help so I can upload these 24 bit shows for a friend.
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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2006, 07:25:57 PM »
nope, nothing special when uploading 24-bit files.  should be the same as 16-bit files.
the only difference is when you import it, you should choose "24-bit FLAC" instead of "FLAC" so that it doesn't try to make mp3 file derivatives, and also so that it shows up when people search for 24-bit shows.  but it seems like you're not even getting that far, for some reason.

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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2006, 11:58:03 PM »
when you import it, you should choose "24-bit FLAC" instead of "FLAC" so that it doesn't try to make mp3 file derivatives, and also so that it shows up when people search for 24-bit shows.  but it seems like you're not even getting that far, for some reason.

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Guess I need to start doing that. I was wondering how it could decode the 24bit to make mp3's that fast. :-[

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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2006, 08:07:35 AM »
also, 48hrs isnt enough to upload a 24-bit show IMO. make its 72 hrs folks

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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2006, 01:09:23 PM »
also, 48hrs isnt enough to upload a 24-bit show IMO. make its 72 hrs folks

twice now LIFE got into the way and I couldnt check in my raq 24-bit files from 12/09. so now i have to try a thrid time If i want, only takes 40 hrs to upload :P

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are you using the global setting on smartftp?  it makes 'having to check' a thing of the past.  simple and you can simply 'check-it-in' once the program finishes up for you.

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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2006, 01:59:35 PM »
also, 48hrs isnt enough to upload a 24-bit show IMO. make its 72 hrs folks

twice now LIFE got into the way and I couldnt check in my raq 24-bit files from 12/09. so now i have to try a thrid time If i want, only takes 40 hrs to upload :P

bean,

are you using the global setting on smartftp?  it makes 'having to check' a thing of the past.  simple and you can simply 'check-it-in' once the program finishes up for you.

how does onew do that? and I can paste the setlist/ffp/info in after the fact?

how does it generate a link for me to finish checking in the files?
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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2006, 04:54:04 PM »
I tried to upload some 24 bit files to LMA using transmit and every time one file finished the upload would disconnect. I looked to see if LMA has a special 24 bit contribution section but couldn't find any thing and I checked my preferences but could not find any thing I needed to check. I have uploaded plenty of 16 bit shows so I know my program works. Please help so I can upload these 24 bit shows for a friend.
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Not sure if ya all understand wahts going on!!! Yes I do understand it takes longer but when I go to upload I get disconnected after my program (Transmit) uploads only one file. Could this be a seting or mabey my ISP? Can't get my program to continue w/ the whole upload. WTF is goiing on?
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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2006, 10:03:24 AM »
I tried to upload some 24 bit files to LMA using transmit and every time one file finished the upload would disconnect. I looked to see if LMA has a special 24 bit contribution section but couldn't find any thing and I checked my preferences but could not find any thing I needed to check. I have uploaded plenty of 16 bit shows so I know my program works. Please help so I can upload these 24 bit shows for a friend.
peace
Not sure if ya all understand wahts going on!!! Yes I do understand it takes longer but when I go to upload I get disconnected after my program (Transmit) uploads only one file. Could this be a seting or mabey my ISP? Can't get my program to continue w/ the whole upload. WTF is goiing on?
Peace

well your question is a bit confusing.  i've uploaded a handful of 24bit shows to LMA and haven't heard of 'Transmit' before.  I use an FTP program, called SmartFTP.  If you use the global que, you can drag and drop all the files into one working directory.  If anything happens, during the upload, SmartFTP will automatically resume due to your global settings.  Even if the upload dis-connects in the middle of a file.

if transmit is an FTP program, i would suggest that you change passive/active, it always seems to do the trick for me.

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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2006, 10:58:26 AM »
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if transmit is an FTP program, i would suggest that you change passive/active, it always seems to do the trick for me.
Yeah I use transmit for the Mac becuse I like using the mac to upload. Last night I got the complete show up but I still had to upload 6 files at a time at a slower speed so I didn't get disconnected. Also I changed passive to active and that kinda helped. Still jave one more 24 bit show to upload and hope to do better this time around. Sorry about the confusion and thanks for all the help.
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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2006, 09:28:30 PM »
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if transmit is an FTP program, i would suggest that you change passive/active, it always seems to do the trick for me.
Yeah I use transmit for the Mac becuse I like using the mac to upload. Last night I got the complete show up but I still had to upload 6 files at a time at a slower speed so I didn't get disconnected. Also I changed passive to active and that kinda helped. Still jave one more 24 bit show to upload and hope to do better this time around. Sorry about the confusion and thanks for all the help.
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I'm still using Cyberduck on my Mac, Jim, without any issues.  My guess is it is either a software setting in Transmit, or something funky with your ISP.  I have similar issues when I try to upload from home (Cox cable modem), where it seems to 'time-out' my uploads.  No issues at work, though, which is a University with very fast data X-fer rates.

If you're still stuck, I'd be happy to help do the upload. 

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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2006, 09:38:58 PM »
is there a MAC equivalent program to utorrent where you can set a protocol encryption so your ISP cant see what youre doing?
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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2008, 03:21:18 PM »
is there a MAC equivalent program to utorrent where you can set a protocol encryption so your ISP cant see what youre doing?

This is slightly off-topic, but I think Transmission can. But I think you should really eliminate the problem rather than working around it. Just switch to an ISP that isn't giving you a hard time for using the internet connection you're paying for...

Oh and the reason why I stumbled over this thread in the first place... Does anyone know what's the current status on supported FLAC versions for 24-bit files at the LMA?

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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2008, 03:45:50 PM »
Oh and the reason why I stumbled over this thread in the first place... Does anyone know what's the current status on supported FLAC versions for 24-bit files at the LMA?

they still have not updated to v1.2.1.  So far, I've only uploaded one 24 bit show encoded with v1.2.1.
Every couple of weeks I get an email message telling me that the files fail verification, and to reply to the email after the files are fixed so that an admin can check it back in.  Every single time, I write back, telling them that the verification failure is false and that the issue is stemming from the fact that they are using an old version of FLAC.  I never get any response from a real person, even though I ask for one in every single email I've sent.  So I don't know the status of it other than it hasn't yet been fixed.  My last email regarding this show was earlier this week, so unless they've upgraded it in the past couple of days, it's not done yet.

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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2008, 04:50:00 PM »
hmm, weird. ive upped prolly 75+ 24-bit flacs onto the LMA and have never had a single problem. I have been using 1.1.3b and 1.1.4b w/ out ANY problems!
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Re: 24 bit upload to LMA???
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2008, 04:58:54 PM »
hmm, weird. ive upped prolly 75+ 24-bit flacs onto the LMA and have never had a single problem. I have been using 1.1.3b and 1.1.4b w/ out ANY problems!

Bean - not weird at all.  as long as you are using a version of FLAC v1.1.x, you'll be fine with the LMA.  the problem comes with those of us using v1.2.1.  in the latest version of FLAC (v1.2.1), 24 bit encoding has been changed a bit (which greatly improves the compression ratio).  However, the older version of FLAC (which the LMA still uses) cannot decode and verify 24 bit FLACs encoded in v1.2.1.

as a work around to this, many tapers are holding off on the upgrading to v1.2.1 and are sticking with v1.1.4 to stay compatible with the LMA.  personally, I'm just holding off uploading any more 24 bit shows until the LMA updates to the latest version of FLAC.

 

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