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DAT Long Play 12 bit/32 kHz transfers
« on: September 27, 2020, 03:33:36 PM »
I have never been a DAT guy myself so I have zero experience using these machines. I've decided to get one in my arsenal strictly for transfers. What are the most versitile machines out there? I need one that sounds nice and can play any tape I put in it. Long play recordings included. As I won't use it regurarely I would prefer the range $200-600. If you can recommend any EU sellers that would be nice too.

It's really difficult to find DAT recorders in Sweden. There is a Sony DTC-57ES for sale now but to my knowledge it's a consumer level DAT recorder and it can't play 44,1 kHz? Would it be good enough for me or should I look elsewhere?
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2020, 03:37:14 PM »
Panasonic/Technics SV-3700 or SV-3900.
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2020, 03:43:45 PM »
Panasonic/Technics SV-3700 or SV-3900.

Can they play LP recorded tapes?

Edit: The reason for this is that I will likely help a guy transfer some shows unfortunately recorded in Long Play.
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2020, 05:11:41 PM »
Easier to find 32K long play support on the DAT side than on the recorder side, depending on what you’re transferring it to. I have one to transfer and i have to bust out an old sound card setup because none of my standalone devices record 32K.
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2020, 05:22:32 PM »
Easier to find 32K long play support on the DAT side than on the recorder side, depending on what you’re transferring it to. I have one to transfer and i have to bust out an old sound card setup because none of my standalone devices record 32K.

I noob question perhaps but is it impossible to convert it in post?
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2020, 05:35:19 PM »
It will absolutely get sample rate converted in post, in hq in software. I just don’t want to rely on the built-in dac chip on a 25-year-old deck.
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2020, 06:15:04 PM »
Sony 7030 or 7040 (newer version) were the top of line DAT machines in the history of that medium.  I have both.  There is no appreciable difference between the two, except the 7040 had remote capabilities.  I don't believe the electronics are different under the skin.  These machines were rack mounted beasts that weighed in at about 50 pounds and had a killer transport system.  They retailed for $10,000 in the day. 

I transcribed (converted) somewhere near 1,000 shows for a radio station  five years ago using these machines. 

The output is weird, only a single XLR for digital out, no SPDIF or Sony 7 Pin, so I think I had to use a HOSA AES Box to convert that signal to SPDIF, thence into a Tascam DR680.     
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2020, 07:37:58 PM »
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2020, 07:49:37 PM »
Where are you located?  I have a place in North Hollywood, California for this type of deck.  They are not cheap.  $100 minimum usually and most repairs are less than $150
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2020, 03:29:41 AM »
Sony 7030 or 7040 (newer version) were the top of line DAT machines in the history of that medium.  I have both.  There is no appreciable difference between the two, except the 7040 had remote capabilities.  I don't believe the electronics are different under the skin.  These machines were rack mounted beasts that weighed in at about 50 pounds and had a killer transport system.  They retailed for $10,000 in the day. 

I transcribed (converted) somewhere near 1,000 shows for a radio station  five years ago using these machines. 

The output is weird, only a single XLR for digital out, no SPDIF or Sony 7 Pin, so I think I had to use a HOSA AES Box to convert that signal to SPDIF, thence into a Tascam DR680.   

Seems like great machines but unfortunately they can't play LP recordings.
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2020, 03:35:18 AM »
how many do you have to transfer? i can roll them for you
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2020, 05:02:56 AM »
how many do you have to transfer? i can roll them for you
Thanks but this is just for fun. I'm interested to learn more about DAT and possibly help some friends with their tapes along the way.
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2020, 09:55:47 AM »
Panasonic/Technics SV-3700 or SV-3900.
I suggest AVOIDING the SV3700.
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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2020, 10:02:18 AM »
Where are you located?  I have a place in North Hollywood, California for this type of deck.  They are not cheap.  $100 minimum usually and most repairs are less than $150

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Re: DAT recorder for transfers
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2020, 11:04:14 AM »
Now that Paul is gone, where do we go to get decks serviced?

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