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Title: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: F0CKER on November 11, 2008, 03:31:27 PM
Where's the best place to buy these?  Ebay?  Need to grab two more, just not sure what brand is best which place sells them the cheapest.  I got one on ebay a while back and it turned out to be a dud.  Are there brands I should stay away from or are they all basically the same with different packaging?
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on November 11, 2008, 03:56:42 PM
My theory is that if a company is going to sell ripoff fakes, they will stamp them sony.   So I'd lean toward buying non-sony batteries from a known 3rd party brand.  But I haven't bought any in years so no recs.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: Crumbo on November 11, 2008, 04:50:56 PM
http://www.eastcoastphoto.com/

I've had good experiences with these folks :)

YMMV
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: OFOTD on November 11, 2008, 05:37:25 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000K7EQPS/ref=dp_olp_2/105-3745974-8866049

I have a few of these 6900 mAh batteries.   No problems whatsoever.    For the price they're damn easy to replace if they'd ever need it.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: F0CKER on November 11, 2008, 06:40:59 PM
+ Mythical T's all around. 
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: fozzy on November 11, 2008, 10:16:42 PM
I have been getting mine from 1800-emart.com they have the problem on the case coming apart like most generics but a bead of CA/Suprt glue fixes the problem
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: mmedley. on November 11, 2008, 11:21:09 PM


Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.


http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: orechall on November 12, 2008, 12:23:32 AM


Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.


http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0


these are the only ones I use. You dont have to worry about the pins coming out with these batteries either.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: OFOTD on November 12, 2008, 12:28:19 AM


Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.


http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0


What kind of record times are you guys getting with the 7800mAh batteries?

Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: Jamos on November 12, 2008, 12:46:59 AM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000K7EQPS/ref=dp_olp_2/105-3745974-8866049

I have a few of these 6900 mAh batteries.   No problems whatsoever.    For the price they're damn easy to replace if they'd ever need it.

I bought a couple of these once...
The batteries charge/discharge fine, but I found that they don't seat all the way in my 702 recorder.  Maybe it was just my unit?  When you slide the battery into place, the locking tab did not have enough clearance to pop up.  So you could slide the battery out without pushing down the locking tab...
not good.

Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: hypnotoad on November 12, 2008, 02:03:30 AM
Good information all around.  Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: Kevin Straker on November 12, 2008, 08:29:11 AM


Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.


http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0

martin, does that one lock on well? If ordered the 6900 battery from the cheapest of the Amazon links and received a 5400 battery. They said that is as big as they can get. It locks on pretty solid.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: mmedley. on November 12, 2008, 10:38:19 AM


Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.


http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0

martin, does that one lock on well? If ordered the 6900 battery from the cheapest of the Amazon links and received a 5400 battery. They said that is as big as they can get. It locks on pretty solid.


I do not have one of those specifically, but Cfox uses them and has no issues at all. I didn't learn about these until after I bought a few from B&H. I use the Impacts (NP-F975) from B&H still. When they bite the dust I plan to replace them with these Lenmars though.

Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: dennisrtyler on November 12, 2008, 10:43:56 AM


Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.


http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0


What kind of record times are you guys getting with the 7800mAh batteries?


David...i can fill an 8g card at 24/48 with this battery. So 8 hrs with room to spare.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: OOK on November 12, 2008, 06:53:27 PM


Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.


http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0


Bingo.  You have a winner... I use these.  You can't beat a 3 year warrenty for what we do with batteries....

OOK
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: cfox on November 13, 2008, 08:47:50 AM


I do not have one of those specifically, but Cfox uses them and has no issues at all. I didn't learn about these until after I bought a few from B&H. I use the Impacts (NP-F975) from B&H still. When they bite the dust I plan to replace them with these Lenmars though.

I have this battery, and I run HDD and CF all nite with the lights on, and still have enough power to run a latenite if needed. And the pins don't come out the batts either.  I wouldn't feel comfortable with anything under 7600

Martin your still a douche bag!
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: OFOTD on November 13, 2008, 12:11:07 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000K7EQPS/ref=dp_olp_2/105-3745974-8866049

I have a few of these 6900 mAh batteries.   No problems whatsoever.    For the price they're damn easy to replace if they'd ever need it.

I bought a couple of these once, from "Red Hot Buys", who was selling them for like $20 each.
The batteries charge/discharge fine, but I found that they don't seat all the way in the 7xx recorders.  When you slide the battery into place, the locking tab did not have enough clearance to pop up.  So you could slide the battery out without pushing down the locking tab...
not good.

The battery housing on these generics must be just a tad bigger than the original or something.

Like I said, they work fine, but I wouldn't trust that situation in the field.

Sorry to hear that.  I went back and looked at each of my batteries and they all seat in the battery slot perfectly.  No overlap or obstruction.    Happy customer here but I guess with most things YMMV.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: boojum on December 01, 2008, 09:15:27 PM
FWIW   forumssounddevices.org has a running thread on batts and cards.  I find it easy to go there to see what other folks have found.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: OFOTD on December 01, 2008, 10:13:52 PM
FWIW   forumssounddevices.org has a running thread on batts and cards.  I find it easy to go there to see what other folks have found.

Neither thread on the SD forum is current anyways.  Much more real world discussion here on ts.com over the years about batteries and media than on the SD forums for sure.





   
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: J.T.L on December 02, 2008, 08:37:23 PM
Martin your still a douche bag!

x2!
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: mmedley. on December 06, 2008, 02:29:46 AM
Martin your still a douche bag!

x2!


 :thebirdman:
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: Kevin Straker on December 18, 2008, 10:25:47 AM
What's the consensus on the best charger? By best I mean quicker than the 722 and gives it a full charge.
thanks-kevin
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: nedstruzz on January 18, 2009, 09:52:05 AM
Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.
http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0

FYI, I bought this battery last May, ran it for 7-8 shows and always had plenty of power.  Started the night last night with 8v after a 24 hour charge and the battery died an hour into the show. 

Going to try and send it back to Thomas Distributors to get a new one.  Fingers Crossed.

Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 18, 2009, 09:47:46 PM
Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.
http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0

FYI, I bought this battery last May, ran it for 7-8 shows and always had plenty of power.  Started the night last night with 8v after a 24 hour charge and the battery died an hour into the show. 

Going to try and send it back to Thomas Distributors to get a new one.  Fingers Crossed.



That's the EXACT REASON I have abandoned running Lions altogether Ned!!! I'll stick w/ my RELIABLE 7.2v NIMH RC batts brah ;)

Anyone want to buy a 6000mah and a 4600mah Lion for your 7xx ???
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: NOLAfishwater on July 20, 2009, 10:28:47 PM
Lenmar batts can now be found on Ebay w/ 3 year warranty

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lenmar-Replacement-for-SONY-NP-F950-NP-F960-NP-F970-B_W0QQitemZ110403734913QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b4934d81&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: manitouman on July 20, 2009, 10:56:58 PM
Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.
http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0

FYI, I bought this battery last May, ran it for 7-8 shows and always had plenty of power.  Started the night last night with 8v after a 24 hour charge and the battery died an hour into the show. 

Going to try and send it back to Thomas Distributors to get a new one.  Fingers Crossed.



That's the EXACT REASON I have abandoned running Lions altogether Ned!!! I'll stick w/ my RELIABLE 7.2v NIMH RC batts brah ;)

Anyone want to buy a 6000mah and a 4600mah Lion for your 7xx ???

Hey Bean, can you measure how tall that battery is? I have the Lenmar listed above but need something that will at least give me 4 hours of recording but has to be shorter than the Lenmar-lis970. I may take that off your hands if the price is right.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: NOLAfishwater on July 21, 2009, 05:24:19 PM
Here is the largest capacity you can get and they come with a 3yr warranty.
http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/lenmar-lis970p-72-volt-7800mah-batterybrrechargeable-lithium-ionbr-replaces-sony-npf950-npf960-and-f970b-p-1255.html?SP_id=&osCsid=et0avc804bo7vsqq4si3oua9q0

FYI, I bought this battery last May, ran it for 7-8 shows and always had plenty of power.  Started the night last night with 8v after a 24 hour charge and the battery died an hour into the show. 

Going to try and send it back to Thomas Distributors to get a new one.  Fingers Crossed.



That's the EXACT REASON I have abandoned running Lions altogether Ned!!! I'll stick w/ my RELIABLE 7.2v NIMH RC batts brah ;)

Anyone want to buy a 6000mah and a 4600mah Lion for your 7xx ???

Hey Bean, can you measure how tall that battery is? I have the Lenmar listed above but need something that will at least give me 4 hours of recording but has to be shorter than the Lenmar-lis970. I may take that off your hands if the price is right.

don't think he will be responding anytime soon
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: manitouman on July 24, 2009, 08:58:07 PM
Hmmm, is there a reason? He's been on the boards  :-\
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: jeromejello on September 23, 2009, 12:17:46 AM
any way to discharge these batteries other than just running till dead?

i picked up a couple of generics from ebay and i they have the problem that was mentioned earlier about not locking in place.  never been a real problem, but i do not trust them out in the dessert for the festival 8.

i think i am going to get a couple of new ones - any current suggestions?

**edit to add**  eek... around $70 a pop... maybe i need to just bust out the dremel and shave a millimeter or two off the back... is this safe  ???  i figure i would just thin it a tad so the pin comes up and locks in.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: OFOTD on September 23, 2009, 12:38:00 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Lenmar-LIS970P-Lithium-ion-Camcorder-Equivelent/dp/B000TKP858

Check out the Lenmar battery above as they have better than average quality control on their batteries.  The LIS970P is the big daddy at 7800mAh.  $51 and free shipping to boot.  Such a damn good deal i'm buying one myself right now.

Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: su6oxone on September 23, 2009, 08:53:29 AM
don't think he will be responding anytime soon

Uh oh, that's not good...

Anyway, I strongly recommend the Sony batteries as the quality is guaranteed.  With all lights turned off and phantom 48V turned on (to a pair of schoeps ccm4), I got 14 hours with the npf970 (6600mAh) and 8.5 hours with the npf770 (4400mAh).  You can't beat that kind of battery life.  I would estimate even the small npf570 (2200mAh) which barely sticks out (I think) should last over 4 hours with phantom on based on the other two.  They cost more but definitely worth it IMO.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: NOLAfishwater on September 23, 2009, 11:21:07 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Lenmar-LIS970P-Lithium-ion-Camcorder-Equivelent/dp/B000TKP858

Check out the Lenmar battery above as they have better than average quality control on their batteries.  The LIS970P is the big daddy at 7800mAh.  $51 and free shipping to boot.  Such a damn good deal i'm buying one myself right now.



thanks Dave. for that price, i couldn't pass one up. actually had bought 2 7200mAh generic ones off of Ebay and it didn't last. Not to mention one of the pins came out after the 2nd use. WTF. what a piece of crapola.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: Kevin Straker on September 23, 2009, 11:32:18 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Lenmar-LIS970P-Lithium-ion-Camcorder-Equivelent/dp/B000TKP858

Check out the Lenmar battery above as they have better than average quality control on their batteries.  The LIS970P is the big daddy at 7800mAh.  $51 and free shipping to boot.  Such a damn good deal i'm buying one myself right now.


Thanks. Grabbed one. There are 2 left.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: page on September 23, 2009, 12:06:12 PM
So how do you tell if they are going to fail early? They just don't hold a charge as long, or do they die without notice?

You've spooked me now. I've received one that was posted either here or over on the SD forums for $35 shipped (a 7600mah I think), and now I'm curious just how much I should monitor it or whatever. I'm coming off of nimh batteries which I didn't have issues with (that weren't due to other environmental reasons) and I'm mildly worried now.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: dennisrtyler on September 23, 2009, 12:12:01 PM
if you stick with the lenmar brand you shouldn't have to worry one bit about power.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: JD on September 23, 2009, 12:32:44 PM
So how do you tell if they are going to fail early? They just don't hold a charge as long, or do they die without notice?



I bought a few generic batteries off of Ebay a while back, some will power my 722 for 6+ hours yet and some go dead in under an hour. Every six months or so I run a test on them and mark the run-time on the side of the battery. Once they get too weak to run a complete show, they go for recycling and get replaced with a lenmar 7800.

I have never had one just fail, it seems as though they only loose capacity over time.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: page on September 23, 2009, 12:54:12 PM
I have never had one just fail, it seems as though they only loose capacity over time.

Ah, excellent. I understand anything can happen, but the information is comforting.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: OFOTD on September 23, 2009, 01:16:52 PM
Glad I could help.   For $50 it's a steal.   Lenmar also has a 3 year warranty which the knock off batteries don't.

After I picked mine up last night there were 19 of them left and now there one.   Good job ts.com
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: lastubbe on September 27, 2009, 09:11:53 PM
Lenmar batts can now be found on Ebay w/ 3 year warranty

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lenmar-Replacement-for-SONY-NP-F950-NP-F960-NP-F970-B_W0QQitemZ110403734913QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b4934d81&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50

I scooped one of these a couple weeks ago.  Haven't taken it out of the package yet though.

Can I just confirm this is the battery most recommend?  It doesn't say it on the auction for some reason, but I believe it is 7800mAh correct?

Thanks.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: OFOTD on September 29, 2009, 02:35:47 PM
Just wanted to update as I got my new battery today.  Ordering and then the free shipping took a total of 7 days. 

Pretty damn good for the price i'd say.
Title: Re: 7xx Series Style Batteries
Post by: dactylus on January 29, 2010, 08:52:04 AM

I just picked up a couple of these - thanks for the recommendation!!

 ;)

http://www.amazon.com/Lenmar-LIS970P-Lithium-ion-Camcorder-Equivelent/dp/B000TKP858

Check out the Lenmar battery above as they have better than average quality control on their batteries.  The LIS970P is the big daddy at 7800mAh.  $51 and free shipping to boot.  Such a damn good deal i'm buying one myself right now.