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Gear / Technical Help => Playback Forum => Topic started by: Teen Wolf Blitzer on August 22, 2011, 04:40:10 PM
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Well I pulled out my Sony MDR7506's that I've had for a decade and they suddenly don't work at all? Strange. Used em just last week. So I'm in the market. What it everyone using these days? Not a fan of the IEM's. Maybe I'll stick with the Sony's...I've been very happy with them. Thanks in advance for any opinions.
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The 7506 phones are nice, always liked the parts list on the packaging so you can fix em yourself.
Are both sides out? Could be a simple solder joint in the connector...
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If you would like to keep the trend of the 7506's, I can sell mine. I can take photos but they are not worn at all and I believe I have the orignial packaging.
Just PM if intereted.
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Audio-Technica ATH-M50. You can find a pair new for around $135 shipped if you want to expand your price range a little bit. Better than anything else out there in that price range.
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Audio-Technica ATH-M50. You can find a pair new for around $135 shipped if you want to expand your price range a little bit. Better than anything else out there in that price range.
+1. I've used just about every studio reference monitor headphones under the sun at one point or another (including the 7506's) and the M50's leave them all in the rearview mirror, IMHO. I've had mine for close to 2 years now and I can't imagine using any other monitor cans. If you're patient and look around, deals can sometimes be had in the $110-$125 range. Also keep in mind that they have coiled and straight cabled versions.
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Jump on the Sony 7506 pile only $85 shipped from Amazon... eventually get the Beyer muffs for em.
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......... Consider looking into Grado headphones. They have a few models that sell w/in the range of $75 - $150. Very reaonably priced phones and considered by many "audiophiles" to be a giant killer
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My main concern with headphones, and why I like the 7506, is how they sound without a nice headphone amp. The 7506 has a rated impedence of 63 Ohms. At 250 Ohms, I passed on buying a very nice used Beyerdyamic DT 770-PRO. They sounded awesome at home, but my laptop and ipod can't drive them on their own.
I See the ATH-M50 is low-impedance at 38 Ohms. Anyone else have a favorite lower impedance headphone?
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......... Consider looking into Grado headphones. They have a few models that sell w/in the range of $75 - $150. Very reaonably priced phones and considered by many "audiophiles" to be a giant killer
The Grados do sound good and are assembled here in the good 'ol USA (in Brooklyn, no less; pretty rare thing nowadays). I could be wrong but from the OP's post I was under the impression that he's looking for another monitor-type set of headphones. The Grados, however nice they sound, are definitely not; they are somewhat colored and not what I would consider an "accurate" set of cans. They are also open-backed so you won't get much isolation if you're in a loud environment. The build quality is not terribly robust and not something I would just throw into my gearbag to monitor field mixes. I had a pair begin to come apart after about two years of regular use and they never left my home; a friend of mine has a pair of top of the line RS1000's that had the cable fraying and one earcup getting wonky in less than a year. As I said, Grados are great for enjoyable listening but would be the last headphones I'd reach for (in my collection) for critical listening during a mixdown or for use in the field. My .02 and YMMV.
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I've owned or used extensively just about all the contenders mentioned here - Sony 7506, Grado SR80, Sennheiser HD280, and they all left me wanting more. Since getting my Ultrasone HFI-780s, I no longer feel the need to keep searching. Closed back phones that sound open, image more like speakers, and easy to drive. Been curious about the ATs but until trying the Ultrasones I'd never come across a pair of closed back phones I could live with long term.
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I love my 7506s. I'd stick with those...
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As I said, Grados are great for enjoyable listening but would be the last headphones I'd reach for (in my collection) for critical listening during a mixdown or for use in the field. My .02 and YMMV.
Exactly my thoughts on Grados, too. Great for casual listening but bad for critical listening/remastering.
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Got the ATH-M50s straight cable headphones for Christmas. Very happy with them so far. ;D
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Sennheiser HD280Pro cans :)
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Sennheiser HD280Pro cans :)
Yup!
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Sennheiser HD280Pro cans :)
Yup!
They're what I've got. I also got a pair of high isolation cans for very loud environments but the HD280's sound better otherwise.
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If you like the 7506's sound signature I'd look at something similar in this regard. The same headphone still sells, Sony also has newer models like the 7509HD or something like that, and the ZX700, both of which aren't any better than the 7506. Another commonly recommended $100 with quite a close sound signature to yours is the Creative Aurvana Live!. The Audio Technica M50 and Beyerdynamic DT-880 lean to the warmer side while the Grado are mostly bright.
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My main concern with headphones, and why I like the 7506, is how they sound without a nice headphone amp. The 7506 has a rated impedence of 63 Ohms. At 250 Ohms, I passed on buying a very nice used Beyerdyamic DT 770-PRO. They sounded awesome at home, but my laptop and ipod can't drive them on their own.
I See the ATH-M50 is low-impedance at 38 Ohms. Anyone else have a favorite lower impedance headphone?
Higher impedance usually translates to higher sensitivity, lower current and thus easier to drive at low power.
This is a heuristic rather than an absolute, as many other factors will affect it.
Always remember, we hear with our ears, not with written specs, so take a good test listen before you buy.
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Sennheiser HD280Pro cans :)
Yup!
They're what I've got. I also got a pair of high isolation cans for very loud environments but the HD280's sound better otherwise.
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Higher impedance usually translates to higher sensitivity, lower current and thus easier to drive at low power.
Obviously this is just the other way around. I guess you actually meant to say "lower impedance usually ... ".
Headphone efficiency generally grows with lower impedance (the voltage gets lost at a given current) and higher sensitivity (dB per a given amount of voltage).
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Higher impedance usually translates to higher sensitivity, lower current and thus easier to drive at low power.
Obviously this is just the other way around. I guess you actually meant to say "lower impedance usually ... ".
Headphone efficiency generally grows with lower impedance (the voltage gets lost at a given current) and higher sensitivity (dB per a given amount of voltage).
No, voltage is easy, power is work.
Crystal headsets = high impedance, high sensitivity
Big, power-hungry magnetic coils = low sensitivity
Sure, engineers try design better, and will, but power isn't voltage.
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What are the Sony 7506's that are sold by a different Sony division called? That's what I just bought.
Found it: Sony MDR-V6. May come out a couple of dollars less than the 7506's.
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I "inherited" a pair of these cans back in 2004:
(http://www.fleish.org/pics/sony-mdr-cd280.684195.jpg)
They were big & bulky and at some point I lost them. So I just bought a pair of 7506's in the YS and couldn't be happier with them. Great sound. Good isolation in a loud, live music environment. And they fold up to take up less room in my bag where space is at a premium.
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No, voltage is easy, power is work.
Crystal headsets = high impedance, high sensitivity
Big, power-hungry magnetic coils = low sensitivity
Sure, engineers try design better, and will, but power isn't voltage.
Not sure I got your point, but looks like we're just using different terminologies rather than different logics ... Some words may have different meanings, depending on the way you look at it, hence I wrote the meaning ("measuring units", kind of) of anything in brackets.
Anyways, OP has to notice there are two kinds of headphones in that aspect -
the less efficient ones that are intentionally designed for use along with a headphone amplifier;
and the more efficient ones that will provide pretty much all they can do, directly out of a portable device.
There certainly is a sonic difference but hey you can't have everything.
Personally, I'd recommend the Beyerdynamic DT-1350 for a portable headphone in the aspect of efficiency and also physically - it's light, isolates well, folds really nice on your neck when not in use and you even get a protective case for it. Great for ride and travel. It also has some nice flexible "DJ features" like twisting cups and splitting headband. It's quite expensive and costs about 300 new and a little more than 200 used, but well worth it.