Topic: Universal Actives Mounting Bar for DIN, DINa, ORTF, NOS, XY90, XY110

[carlbeck]

Yep count me in for one of these.

[F.O.Bean]

"The Steve Bar" or "The Tone Bar"

[stevetoney]

I'm gonna be honest with everyone.  After seeing Robb's vark bar array of products which basically expands the concept of the Vark Bar, I personnally feel that solves the problem that I was seeking to address by putting together a universal bar solution.

Now, I do still see that there are some differences in what I have outlined in my design (not sure I'd call that advantages though).  Main thing is that the cradle concept would allow for the universal mounting of screens. 

I've said this before, I'm not interested in getting into manufacturing.  I primarily was motivated by my own desire for a low cost universal mounting solution, which I feel that Robb has developed.  Therefore, I'm compelled to STOP this project now and let Robbs solution be the answer to the problem.

On the other hand, if peeps feel strongly about this design, I might still feel compelled to go forward with it...or I'm CERTAINLY willing to let someone else take the ball.

Thoughts?

[tgakidis]

To bad....

[stevetoney]

Ted, I guess what I meant to say in my previous post is that I'm open to continuing forward if there's still interest.  I'm personally sorta ambivalent at this point.

If there's interest and people feel that what I've proposed suits their needs better than the Vark solution, then I have no problem moving forward.  For my own purposes, either solution works for me.

My earlier message was meant more to spur some discussion with those that have already responded than to cut this project off at the pass.  To help this along, I'm gonna PM everyone that has responded to date and ask them if they have strong feelings...and ask for them to respond publicly here.

Thanks!

[tgakidis]

For me, the problem is there is no readily available clips for the akg ck_x line of caps.  So, although I love your design, it still does not solve my problem.  This makes me have to go with individual custom bars for each config. with my current active system, which could change at any time with my track record 

[F.O.Bean]

I think its a great nidea, but I feel you about Robb having what most would need.

Plus, I have a DINa AND DIN AND NOS KwonBar, plus a set of Rode NT6 HD mounts+VarkBar, so Im pretty set on my config stuff unfortunately(fortunately for me) I would like a 1" riser and one of robb's bigger bars but thats $$ I just dont have

[carlbeck]

Well seeing how Teddy & I run the same caps I am with him but I saw your solution as a good fit for us. If I understand your design I would be able to use my caps in the cradle & have the elastic be the way to secure the cap instead of clips?

[stevetoney]

Well seeing how Teddy & I run the same caps I am with him but I saw your solution as a good fit for us. If I understand your design I would be able to use my caps in the cradle & have the elastic be the way to secure the cap instead of clips?

That was the idea.  The caps would just rest in the cradle and then we'd wrap a bungee around...something rubber...condom...O-ring...rubber bands...wookie dread lock lice traps...whatever is handy.  The cradle is I think the key and the most exciting part of the design, but also probably the biggest PITA to make although I have ideas on how I'd do that too.

Thanks for the honesty guys.

The more I think about this, the less I want to tackle it...with Robbs bars being a good solution for me, my incentive basically went went completely away for this...and I'm not really wanting to get into this for say $20 or $30 a bar to compensate myself.

So, the more time passes, the less energized I am about it.  I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering one of Robbs bars later on, then I will have ZERO residual incentive.  

[it-goes-to-eleven]

I've also given a lot of thought to doing a telescoping bar..   And I have done some bars with multiple width mounts.  Ultimately, having multiple bars doesn't take up that much space.  All depends on what you want..  The basic vark design is very good, as long as the mass is kept small so it doesn't overwhelm the single shock mount.

Here's a vari-bar prototype I made in april 2006 for a friend's km140's.  In this pic my schoeps are on it.

[beeco]

PM sent.

I was thinking this proposed mounting solution might allow me to use my CA-14s on a stand and get the spacing and angles right for multiple configurations, and then be versatile enough to handle a more expensive set of mics/actives when I can afford them (ie, Milab VM-44 links, or Busman's eventual actives, or similar).  From the description provided, it seemed like it would work.  So if this bar gets built, and if it will handle my small mics as well as my eventual larger mics with actives (just planning ahead here) then I'm still interested.

[Colin Liston]

I've also given a lot of thought to doing a telescoping bar..   And I have done some bars with multiple width mounts.  Ultimately, having multiple bars doesn't take up that much space.  All depends on what you want..  The basic vark design is very good, as long as the mass is kept small so it doesn't overwhelm the single shock mount.

Here's a vari-bar prototype I made in april 2006 for a friend's km140's.  In this pic my schoeps are on it.

Where did you get those little plastic clips? 

[dennisrtyler]

I've also given a lot of thought to doing a telescoping bar..   And I have done some bars with multiple width mounts.  Ultimately, having multiple bars doesn't take up that much space.  All depends on what you want..  The basic vark design is very good, as long as the mass is kept small so it doesn't overwhelm the single shock mount.

Here's a vari-bar prototype I made in april 2006 for a friend's km140's.  In this pic my schoeps are on it.

Where did you get those little plastic clips? 

those appear to just be cable clips that you can get at home depot/lowe's in various sizes.

[dennisrtyler]

like seen here  http://cableorganizer.com/nylon-cable-clamps/

[darktrain]

I gotta say i was/am interested in these bars myself and was only having that batch of different size bars made up to maybe fill a void with bar mounts and shocks  as i think this active idea is good and has different appeal than a standard bar and I may take stab at it next time i visit my folks as i will have access to the machine shop