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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 04:36:17 PM »
No.  I have had both if them.  Another option is busman.  I think I got one from him for 20$. 
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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2011, 04:45:25 PM »
Another vote for Busman!  A set of 2 cost $30 and I think they are smaller than the Joe Meek mounts.
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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2011, 05:10:06 PM »
I was very curious about this myself. The Busman mounts are good quality and 20mm?

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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 05:16:11 PM »
I like them!  They also have felt on the part you slide your bodies into so they don't scratch you mics.  I only have one currently and use it for my active bar when I don't use a shure donut.  I think they have plastic threads, but I also swapped out mine for one with metal threads of another shock mount.  For $30 shipped to your door it's a good price and quality.
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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 05:31:55 PM »
Thought the Busmans were 22mm.  Slightly larger.  I know that I couldn't use the Busman mounts on my Teac 120's unless I put gaff tape or something on the mics to take up the additional room. 

After thinking back maybe I have my facts reversed, Hell I am just not sure now
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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 05:43:36 PM »
I'm not sure about the size of the Busmans, but mine is alittle more snug than a Shure a53m shock. 

Edit:  The price must have went up since I bought mine.
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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 05:47:18 PM »
The Busmans are 20mm, they fit my SP C4s (20mm) nice and snug.  Took jmbell's advice for a pair and they've worked out great.  It was $40 for my pair shipped.  From the picture alone, can't tell much difference between the Schoeps and Busman, I'd save the money on probably almost the same mount.

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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 10:03:03 PM »
The Schoeps shockmounts clamp the cable and thus isolate the microphone from cable motion or vibration. That's particularly important with directional microphones such as cardioids, supercardioids and figure-8s. How much price difference that is worth is up to you, but any shock mount that doesn't isolate a loop of the cable in that way will deliver inferior results in everyday recording situations. I used to use the Shure "rubber donuts" (A53M) which are well built and relatively inexpensive, but they suffer from the same lack.

If the price of the Schoeps shock mounts seems excessive, you might consider the Rycote InVision series for $62 list (U.S.). They're first-rate.

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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 10:07:52 PM »
The Schoeps shockmounts clamp the cable and thus isolate the microphone from cable motion or vibration.

I use a A20S (love it!) but I don't use the cable clamping piece.  Typically, I use a strip of gaffer tape to secure the cables without putting tension on them.  Wouldn't this serve the same function when used with any shockmount? 

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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 10:15:10 PM »
It could if you really leave some slack in the cable between the microphone and the tie-off point.
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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 10:21:49 PM »
It could if you really leave some slack in the cable between the microphone and the tie-off point.

Cool, I always leave plenty of slack to keep the mic/cable connection "ultra tension-free".  Thanks!

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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 11:06:05 PM »
Busman shocks have a cable clamp too!
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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2011, 01:32:55 PM »
If the price of the Schoeps shock mounts seems excessive, you might consider the Rycote InVision series for $62 list (U.S.). They're first-rate.


It's not so much the price of the Schoeps mounts, but rather the build quality. For $112, I expect something not made primarily of plastic. My last two easily cracked over time.

The Rycote mounts are nice.

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Re: Joe Meek JM27SM vs Schoeps A20
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2011, 04:10:29 PM »
I have been using Shure "donuts" since getting actives in 2007. I just LOVE THEM. I too make sure they are tension free like DSatz said :)
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