Topic: Windscreen for Schoeps mk4v

[noahbickart]

Is there any consensus on what the best windscreen is for the Schoeps vertical capsules (mk4v, mk41v, mk6, mk8)?

do the ubiquitus and cheep wind tech screen cut it?

[tim in jersey]

For outdoor open-taping, I've had good success with the big-ass Shures...

[StuStu]

I use the same screens as with other caps: Shure A81WS (as mentioned above), DPA 0896 and Schoeps B5.

[acidjack]

Can anyone confirm/deny whether the B5D are not compatible with vertical address caps? I was going to run normal B5s with my MK4Vs but would prefer to run B5D if I can.

[StuStu]

Can anyone confirm/deny whether the B5D are not compatible with vertical address caps? I was going to run normal B5s with my MK4Vs but would prefer to run B5D if I can.

According to Schoeps, the only caps not compatible with the B5D are the MK6, MK8 and CCM8.

[johnw]

Can anyone confirm/deny whether the B5D are not compatible with vertical address caps? I was going to run normal B5s with my MK4Vs but would prefer to run B5D if I can.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=163450.0

Looks like it's ok. Still find the change in wording odd if they haven't re-designed something

[bombdiggity]

Can anyone confirm/deny whether the B5D are not compatible with vertical address caps? I was going to run normal B5s with my MK4Vs but would prefer to run B5D if I can.

They've changed their wording on the compatibility (as noted in the link above) but do indicate the B5D is appropriate for the MK4Vs (maybe not ideal, but I think still better than the B5).  The hollow foam should offer better effectiveness and lower impact on sound quality relative to the B5. 

The B5D is what I use on my MK4V's if I use one.  I've been perfectly happy with them and can't say I've noticed any audible difference between using them or not, though I do typically only use windscreens when some air movement issue may be a factor (fans or ductwork can be an issue at indoor shows with really quiet moments). 

RE: the other comment above they say "the B 5 D cannot be used with MK 6 or MK 8 capsules, or the corresponding CCM compact microphones."

[acidjack]

Can anyone confirm/deny whether the B5D are not compatible with vertical address caps? I was going to run normal B5s with my MK4Vs but would prefer to run B5D if I can.

They've changed their wording on the compatibility (as noted in the link above) but do indicate the B5D is appropriate for the MK4Vs (maybe not ideal, but I think still better than the B5).  The hollow foam should offer better effectiveness and lower impact on sound quality relative to the B5. 

The B5D is what I use on my MK4V's if I use one.  I've been perfectly happy with them and can't say I've noticed any audible difference between using them or not, though I do typically only use windscreens when some air movement issue may be a factor (fans or ductwork can be an issue at indoor shows with really quiet moments). 

RE: the other comment above they say "the B 5 D cannot be used with MK 6 or MK 8 capsules, or the corresponding CCM compact microphones."

Thanks. I think I am going to go with that. Like you, I prefer not to use screens whenever possible, but when I need them, the B5Ds are so much better build-wise than the B5s or other cheapo screens. I also like how the foam doesn't touch the actual capsule.

[it-goes-to-eleven]

do the ubiquitus and cheep wind tech screen cut it?

I think they're junk.  Mostly useful as a last resort, or emergency spares, etc.

The idea is that the foam is open cell.  From a production standpoint, that may be tricky.  A foam that is an open matrix but also durable for years, etc.  Not all open cell foam is the same.  At least in my example, if you tried to blow through the windtech foam it was very closed and obstructing. You might as well take a nerf ball and cut a hole in it.

In contrast, the ultra-fine cell foam in a Shure A81WS is very open.

[stevetoney]

I can't refute anything said here, but when it comes to screens, the discussion always relates to differences in construction and how that might impact the sound of one screen against another.  I have no doubt that screens impact sound vs. no screen, but I've been reading ts.com for I think ten years now and I have yet to see a real convincing technical article on the impact of one screen over another based purely on sonics.  Not saying it doesn't exist, just saying that it seems like the data isn't there.

For my own taping purposes, I have a hard time seeing how, for example, the plastic ribbing inside of a BD5 is going to affect the sound or imaging of a recording made from the audience at a concert venue that comes inherent with sonic imperfection.  Maybe if you used screens in a studio then there might be a sonic impact, but why do you need a screen in a studio?  I just think, for most people reading this, the discussion about screen differences is theoretical and would never be able to be heard on a live music recording.

Anyway, the bottom line for me is, does it cut the wind noise.  If it does, then the screen is worthy.  If not, move on to something else.

[myke2241]

why not Rycote Softies? I think those are going to give some of the best wind protection results. I have a set of Windtech US2 windscreens for my CCM 41's but i haven't had a chance to try them outdoors. although i did a close blow test and i could overload the mic. so i really wouldn't put a lot of trust in them for outdoor use.