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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2005, 08:47:27 AM »
everyone has an opinion...mine, no mic, and I mean none of them in the $400 or less range touch the 39x series...

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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2005, 04:10:56 PM »
I am perfectlyhappy with my 393's, and was happy with my 391's...and have been extremly please with most blueline shows I have heard. 
I do not know jw or anything about him....but why would you want a pair of mics that need to be "modded" to sound good compared to the bluelines which sound good stock?  they are the same price in the end...and I will NOT start to insinuate (like others did about Oade) that he does mods on one and not the bluelines, which helps his business)....I am only wondering about why a "mod" over another stock, if they are same price, yet the stock bluelines offers interchangeable caps...and more support, as jw would be the only one to help with the modded mics...
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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2005, 08:31:33 AM »
I think that it is important to point out that JW does mods on several AKG mics - just not the se300s. He also will not (can't ?) mod the 480s, but will do the 460s. The 460s use the same interchangable caps as the 480s. I would guarantee that his decision to mod various mics is based on the feasability of doing the mod and how he thinks it sounds afterwords.
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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2005, 10:13:39 AM »
I think that it is important to point out that JW does mods on several AKG mics - just not the se300s. He also will not (can't ?) mod the 480s, but will do the 460s. The 460s use the same interchangable caps as the 480s. I would guarantee that his decision to mod various mics is based on the feasability of doing the mod and how he thinks it sounds afterwords.

 Why do you say JW won't (can't?) mod the 480's???  ...have you spoken to him about it????...just curious
Are the 480 xfr-less?
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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2005, 10:36:30 AM »
I think that it is important to point out that JW does mods on several AKG mics - just not the se300s. He also will not (can't ?) mod the 480s, but will do the 460s. The 460s use the same interchangable caps as the 480s. I would guarantee that his decision to mod various mics is based on the feasability of doing the mod and how he thinks it sounds afterwords.

I have never seen anyone talk about, or it listed on his website, that he offers mods on the se300's....I was under the impression that he didn't mod these.  the 480's are not on the list either....only the 460's

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AKG 460,
AKG 535EB,
AKG 451/452EB,
AKG 414EB/P48,
AKG 414 TL & B-ULS
AKG THE TUBE,
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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2005, 11:56:17 AM »
I think that it is important to point out that JW does mods on several AKG mics - just not the se300s. He also will not (can't ?) mod the 480s, but will do the 460s. The 460s use the same interchangable caps as the 480s. I would guarantee that his decision to mod various mics is based on the feasability of doing the mod and how he thinks it sounds afterwords.

 Why do you say JW won't (can't?) mod the 480's???  ...have you spoken to him about it????...just curious
Are the 480 xfr-less?

I'm not sure of the details, but my understanding is he can't (not won't) because the 480's use surface mount technology which is alot more difficult and expensive (tools) to make changes to. Also, I'm pretty sure he doesn't sell mic's so the insinuation that he's upselling would be based on a false assumption.

And yes, the 480's are already transformerless.

Another thing to keep in mind is that most of the Audio Upgrade's business is with studios, not with location tapers. Our requirements for microphones are quite a bit differant than those of a studio ...durability and affordability are usually higher concerns to us.
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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2005, 01:18:01 PM »
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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2005, 01:49:43 PM »
AKG bluelines are not crap and are very good for their price range, especially used! A wholesaler who tells you otherwise has another agenda!

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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2005, 02:15:45 PM »

I have never seen anyone talk about, or it listed on his website, that he offers mods on the se300's....I was under the impression that he didn't mod these.  the 480's are not on the list either....only the 460's

The problem with the se300 is that front-end electronics is emedded into every one of the blue line capsules (these parts are surface mounted and covered in goop).   
 
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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2005, 02:28:49 PM »
AKG bluelines are not crap and are very good for their price range, especially used! A wholesaler who tells you otherwise has another agenda!

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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2005, 03:17:36 PM »
I think that it is important to point out that JW does mods on several AKG mics - just not the se300s. He also will not (can't ?) mod the 480s, but will do the 460s. The 460s use the same interchangable caps as the 480s. I would guarantee that his decision to mod various mics is based on the feasability of doing the mod and how he thinks it sounds afterwords.

 Why do you say JW won't (can't?) mod the 480's???  ...have you spoken to him about it????...just curious
Are the 480 xfr-less?

I'm not sure of the details, but my understanding is he can't (not won't) because the 480's use surface mount technology which is alot more difficult and expensive (tools) to make changes to. Also, I'm pretty sure he doesn't sell mic's so the insinuation that he's upselling would be based on a false assumption.

And yes, the 480's are already transformerless.

Another thing to keep in mind is that most of the Audio Upgrade's business is with studios, not with location tapers. Our requirements for microphones are quite a bit differant than those of a studio ...durability and affordability are usually higher concerns to us.

thanks D5... thought the 480's were TL but wasn't sure and suspected that they were SMD (had that voice i the back of the mind saying they were smd or heard that they were) and I can understand not wanting to tackle SMD stuff..been there, can do that but, having the right tools is a must.

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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2005, 06:56:20 PM »

I have never seen anyone talk about, or it listed on his website, that he offers mods on the se300's....I was under the impression that he didn't mod these.  the 480's are not on the list either....only the 460's

Problem with the se300 (which I don't know, surface monted as well?) is that front end electronics is emedded into every one of the blue line capsules (SMD and covered in goop). 
 

thank you jk...this was the answer i was looking for!!!  I knew there was a reason, just didnt know it
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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2005, 07:37:12 PM »
Also, I'm pretty sure he doesn't sell mic's so the insinuation that he's upselling would be based on a false assumption.

It doesn't matter if he actually sells the mics or not. He does a mod to one and does not do a mod to another, plenty of incentive there to encourage folks to buy the mics that he can tweak.

EDIT: I'm not trying to call JW out, I have never had any business dealings with him and have no reason to believe that he's doing anything unethical here. I was just trying to point out that whether or not he actually sells the mics is not really the issue.
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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2005, 07:48:48 PM »
anyone ever heard a mod414ULS tape ???

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Re: Interesting talk with Audio Upgrades
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2005, 08:19:00 PM »
Also, I'm pretty sure he doesn't sell mic's so the insinuation that he's upselling would be based on a false assumption.

It doesn't matter if he actually sells the mics or not. He does a mod to one and does not do a mod to another, plenty of incentive there to encourage folks to buy the mics that he can tweak.

EDIT: I'm not trying to call JW out, I have never had any business dealings with him and have no reason to believe that he's doing anything unethical here. I was just trying to point out that whether or not he actually sells the mics is not really the issue.

is it possible certain mics are not mod-able, and that's why he only does certain models?  i don't know...i'm only trying to understand this, as are others...

 

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