Topic: Suggestions for a stand without legs

[bconnolly]

Lately I find myself just taping my stand to a halfwall or a pole because extending the legs is just more trouble than it's worth.  More often than not, when I extend the legs, I'm blocking the stand all night to keep people from tripping over one of the legs and this becomes a huge problem at sold out shows with a bar because people are constantly walking back and forth.  The last thing a drunk concert attendee is looking for is a black piece of metal that is sticking out a foot or two into their walking path.  This leads me to believe that a single pole might be more beneficial for me since it would be smaller and lighter than a full tripod.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  Should I be looking for a monopod or just a stand extension?  Is this something that people find common with their taping experiences?

[poorlyconditioned]

Lately I find myself just taping my stand to a halfwall or a pole because extending the legs is just more trouble than it's worth.  More often than not, when I extend the legs, I'm blocking the stand all night to keep people from tripping over one of the legs and this becomes a huge problem at sold out shows with a bar because people are constantly walking back and forth.  The last thing a drunk concert attendee is looking for is a black piece of metal that is sticking out a foot or two into their walking path.  This leads me to believe that a single pole might be more beneficial for me since it would be smaller and lighter than a full tripod.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  Should I be looking for a monopod or just a stand extension?  Is this something that people find common with their taping experiences?

Time to get creative with clamping.  This is really easy, especially when you use light mics, such as AT853 or AKG CK9x "active" capsules.

Another idea is to use (fiberglass) tent poles.  Look in an outdoors store for "replacement poles".  They come in 2' lengths.  I use them as a boom, eg., out from a clamp on stage or a pillar, or as a stand, eg., tie them to a chair or table leg.

I hardly ever use a stand now.

  Richard

[bconnolly]

I thought about getting a clamp and doing that, but the venues I tape at are good for just taping my stand to the wall since I'm usually right in front of the board (so it's really a half-wall).

And about using non-conventional poles like tent poles and such, how does one manage to mount his mic bar on the top of something like that? Is it a ghetto taped-up rig or can you get adapters to fit most things?

[poorlyconditioned]

I thought about getting a clamp and doing that, but the venues I tape at are good for just taping my stand to the wall since I'm usually right in front of the board (so it's really a half-wall).

And about using non-conventional poles like tent poles and such, how does one manage to mount his mic bar on the top of something like that? Is it a ghetto taped-up rig or can you get adapters to fit most things?

My "active" setup is just two CK91 or CK93 capsules.  I just wound some wire to loops to hold them by the windscreens.  This is then ghetto taped/clamped to the pole, which is then ghetto taped/clamped/tied to anything I can reach.

You can find me easily.  I'm the guy who looks at the ceiling to see where I can clamp/tie/tape my gear.

  Richard

[jeromejello]

I thought about getting a clamp and doing that, but the venues I tape at are good for just taping my stand to the wall since I'm usually right in front of the board (so it's really a half-wall).

And about using non-conventional poles like tent poles and such, how does one manage to mount his mic bar on the top of something like that? Is it a ghetto taped-up rig or can you get adapters to fit most things?

fyi, i dont think the muthafuckin heat will be able to be held up with a meer fiberglass pole...  a monopod would probably still require duct/gaffers taping, so you might just save the money on the stand and put it towards tape.

[bconnolly]

I thought about getting a clamp and doing that, but the venues I tape at are good for just taping my stand to the wall since I'm usually right in front of the board (so it's really a half-wall).

And about using non-conventional poles like tent poles and such, how does one manage to mount his mic bar on the top of something like that? Is it a ghetto taped-up rig or can you get adapters to fit most things?

fyi, i dont think the muthafuckin heat will be able to be held up with a meer fiberglass pole...  a monopod would probably still require duct/gaffers taping, so you might just save the money on the stand and put it towards tape.

I'm also thinking this.  The C1000S is a beast.  Put two of them on a stereo bar and it weighs quite a bit.  I kinda wish I could just buy the stand I have now sans the legs.

[Tall Adam]

what kind of stand is it? leg removal might be a possibilty...

[bconnolly]

what kind of stand is it? leg removal might be a possibilty...

http://www.adorama.com/SALSB10AC.html

The legs are riveted to it so you can't take them off.  I hadn't thought of taking them off before I read your post but upon inspection of the stand it doesn't look possible.

[flipp]

Rivets are easy to drill. Take a bit smaller than the rivet and drill out the center. Only thing is you probably will not be able to get the legs reattached. A pop rivet gun may be able to but if you drill, consider the stand as a permanent monopod. Rerivetting the legs is very likely to be less sturdy than the stand originally was.

If you are looking for something cheap to use as a monopod, either pvc pipe or electrical conduit is available in almost any home center or hardware store in any length you wnat and then an inexpensive WindTech style clamp will allow you to use all your standard mic thred fittings/adaptors.

[johnw]

The guy that makes APIC stands does extensions that are basically stands without legs. He'll add the 5/8 threaded tap if you want. I've been very happy with my stand and would reccomend them. 201-261-2160

See this thread for more info:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=2456.0

If you decide to get one, please post with how much it cost as their website is a bit lacking.

[bconnolly]

The guy that makes APIC stands does extensions that are basically stands without legs. He'll add the 5/8 threaded tap if you want. I've been very happy with my stand and would reccomend them. 201-261-2160

See this thread for more info:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=2456.0

If you decide to get one, please post with how much it cost as their website is a bit lacking.

That sounds like what I'm looking for exactly.  I'll definitely give him a call and see if he can do what I need.  +T

I'm beginning to think that maybe I should just buy another one of the stands I already have and do some minor surgery on it.  It was only 70 bucks or so.

[fozzy]

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

[Brian Skalinder]

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Thanks for that, Fozzy - I don't know why, but I've always had a tough time tracking that sucker down online.  (I suck at the internets.)  If one doesn't have length restrictions, that looks like the way to go.  I have a custom pole (paid about double) because I need the pole to shrink down enough to fit on my motorcycle, and 3' just isn't small enough.

[fozzy]

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Thanks for that, Fozzy - I don't know why, but I've always had a tough time tracking that sucker down online.  (I suck at the internets.)  If one doesn't have length restrictions, that looks like the way to go.  I have a custom pole (paid about double) because I need the pole to shrink down enough to fit on my motorcycle, and 3' just isn't small enough.

Yea it does kinda suck at that length.  The nice thing about the Bogen model is that it has a Female 5/8 on the bottom, also already has a 3/8 threaded tip so all you need is a 3/8 > 5/8 adpater.  Great to clamp onto a seat w/ a little superclam + accesorey magic or to boom out over/under a railing. 

[bconnolly]

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Thanks for that, Fozzy - I don't know why, but I've always had a tough time tracking that sucker down online.  (I suck at the internets.)  If one doesn't have length restrictions, that looks like the way to go.  I have a custom pole (paid about double) because I need the pole to shrink down enough to fit on my motorcycle, and 3' just isn't small enough.

Yea it does kinda suck at that length.  The nice thing about the Bogen model is that it has a Female 5/8 on the bottom, also already has a 3/8 threaded tip so all you need is a 3/8 > 5/8 adpater.  Great to clamp onto a seat w/ a little superclam + accesorey magic or to boom out over/under a railing. 

Man, that pole is exactly what I need.  I'm not a ninja with BH Photo Video's search so I didn't see that one when I searched.  And 3' isn't too big at all.  Especially considering that my current stand is over 4' when collapsed.  +T for sure!

[heikki]

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

I use this exact pole, works great and attaches easily to superclamps and the extension arms.  Get one! :-)

[bgalizio]

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

I can't seem to figure this part out... will it connect to 5/8" thread, or does it need a 5/8" stud?

[fozzy]

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

I can't seem to figure this part out... will it connect to 5/8" thread, or does it need a 5/8" stud?

TOP:
It has a 3/8 threaded tip, you would need a 3/8 > 5/8 adapter for a standard T-bar/vertbar mount
you would need this

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=284333&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Bottom:
5/8 Female will clamp onto a standard 5/8 stud like this one or one w/o threads.  The superclamp can handle either.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5350&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

[Craig T]

I'm also using one.  Sweet for theaters with chairs - superclamp to arm rest, extendo pole on the superclamp, perfect.

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

I use this exact pole, works great and attaches easily to superclamps and the extension arms.  Get one! :-)

[bgalizio]

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

I can't seem to figure this part out... will it connect to 5/8" thread, or does it need a 5/8" stud?

TOP:
It has a 3/8 threaded tip, you would need a 3/8 > 5/8 adapter for a standard T-bar/vertbar mount
you would need this

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=284333&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Bottom:
5/8 Female will clamp onto a standard 5/8 stud like this one or one w/o threads.  The superclamp can handle either.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5350&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Thanks for the info, +T. For the sake of clarification, I meant the bottom. So this will not attach to a 5/8" thread?

[fozzy]

Thanks for the info, +T. For the sake of clarification, I meant the bottom. So this will not attach to a 5/8" thread?

No the bottom looks like this, requies a 5/8 stud

[bconnolly]

Thanks for the info, +T. For the sake of clarification, I meant the bottom. So this will not attach to a 5/8" thread?

No the bottom looks like this, requies a 5/8 stud

It's funny you mention this connection interface (as well as the two other pieces in your previous post).  My first stand came with the brass piece and the guy at the lighting store gave me an adapter for free.  So I can just transfer my two pieces to the new stand, awesome.

[bgalizio]

OK, I'm running this type of clamp:



Does anyone know of an extension like the Bogen mentioned above that would work with this type of clamp? Or should I just bit the bullet and get a superclamp & the extension mentioned above?

[fozzy]

OK, I'm running this type of clamp:



Does anyone know of an extension like the Bogen mentioned above that would work with this type of clamp? Or should I just bit the bullet and get a superclamp & the extension mentioned above?

They make Stud adapters that will fit the windtech clamp but I would worry about the weight.

EDIT: I can hang from my superclamp when it is securly attached.  I wouldn't try that w/ my windtech

[Brian Skalinder]

OK, I'm running this type of clamp:
[snip]
Does anyone know of an extension like the Bogen mentioned above that would work with this type of clamp? Or should I just bit the bullet and get a superclamp & the extension mentioned above?

I've run my custom extension on the Windtech clamp before, but only straight vertical - NFW it would be secure on any sort of angle, and frankly it wasn't very secure even vertically.  I'll never do it again.  Bite the bullet and get a SuperClamp.

[bgalizio]

OK, I'm running this type of clamp:
[snip]
Does anyone know of an extension like the Bogen mentioned above that would work with this type of clamp? Or should I just bit the bullet and get a superclamp & the extension mentioned above?

I've run my custom extension on the Windtech clamp before, but only straight vertical - NFW it would be secure on any sort of angle, and frankly it wasn't very secure even vertically.  I'll never do it again.  Bite the bullet and get a SuperClamp.

Sounds like the way to go. Believe it or not, I've never even used the clamp! I was thinking that the super clamp + extension would be preferable (over a stand) for seated shows. I could clamp onto the table or arm rest and run the extension up.

[thegreatgumbino]

I got something like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=5364&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Thanks for that, Fozzy - I don't know why, but I've always had a tough time tracking that sucker down online.  (I suck at the internets.)  If one doesn't have length restrictions, that looks like the way to go.  I have a custom pole (paid about double) because I need the pole to shrink down enough to fit on my motorcycle, and 3' just isn't small enough.

Yea it does kinda suck at that length.  The nice thing about the Bogen model is that it has a Female 5/8 on the bottom, also already has a 3/8 threaded tip so all you need is a 3/8 > 5/8 adpater.  Great to clamp onto a seat w/ a little superclam + accesorey magic or to boom out over/under a railing. 

I've got one of these as well.  I love it & it works great with my superclamp.  Very easy to use.  It would be nice if it folded up a little smaller, but it's not a big deal for me.

[thegreatgumbino]

FWIW, B&H has a used 3' to 5' extension pole for sale right now if anyone's interested.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=800459860&is=USE&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation