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Are there any mics out there that would be more ecconmoical than the 402x series?

I am aware of the actives on the market, but I want to get a set of mics that has no body's.  I am also aware of the many electrets.....

Anyone know of anyhting?
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2007, 03:50:48 PM »
there's the Schoeps ccm series.  no mic body involved, and very similar in size to the DPA 402x series.  but, on the other hand, I don't know how much more economical they are relative to the DPA's

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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2007, 03:57:01 PM »
Milab VM-44 Link ??  or are bodies in the equation?
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2007, 04:22:33 PM »
T+ everyone.

Looks like DPA, Schoeps and Milab are about it.  These are all expensive.
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2007, 04:59:36 PM »
T+ everyone.

Looks like DPA, Schoeps and Milab are about it.  These are all expensive.


The Milab are very nice, but not bodiless.  They are an active system like the Neumann km140's or the Schoeps mk4+CMC6 (not like the CCM's).
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2007, 05:13:11 PM »
Three weeks ago, you were selling everything because you owed your wife money, had none, and she was pissed.  This week, you have a new Oade 660 and you're thinking DPA mics. 

Wha'dja do?  Decide to sell the wife instead?

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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2007, 05:32:37 PM »
Well, I paid off the wife, and got the credit card in check.   Got the wife to spot me for the 660 until I get my work expense check. 

Now I want to sell all of my mics and go with some sort of active system.  I obviously can't come up with the $3000 for the DPA's.

I am just playing the debt game and robbing Peter to pay Paul......
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2007, 06:21:49 PM »
I have no idea how they sound, but Rode has an active system cardioid -- the NT6.  Again, like the km140s in that the system has a mic body and a separated active capsule head.  Looks to be $370 each new, or less (bhphotovideo say email for lower price).

The Rode mics don't have a very good reputation in the taping community.  I've never listened to any of their products, so I can't offer an opinion, but Rode seems to be the first lower cost mic company coming out with an active system (recent years that is).
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2007, 07:10:13 PM »
Don't forget that if you are willing to accept having a body in the chain that the MBHO's are a great deal at a more affordable price than the DPA, Schoeps or Neumann's.


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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2007, 11:21:49 PM »
What are you really going for?  Small size?  The audix are very small and you could just throw a machined-down Hydra or similar set in there and be done with it.  Apologies if this isn't what you're thinking of.
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2007, 06:51:27 AM »
What are you really going for?  Small size?  The audix are very small and you could just through a machined-down Hydra or similar set in there and be done with it.  Apologies if this isn't what you're thinking of.

Yeah, small size is exactly what I am looking for.  I want the best of both worlds, the size of an electret, but the sound of a true condensor....

Thanks for the Audix suggestion, that might be an option...
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2007, 09:21:09 AM »
You could also go with the AKG Blueline caps and a 3 wire BBox to power them if you are a DIY'er.  Poorlyconditoned (Richard) did this and it worked very well for him.  relatively inexpensive as well (cost of caps and materials for BBox).
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2007, 09:35:07 AM »
AT E/S 943s are electret, but can be used with a BB or a P48 adapter
I wouldn't put them in the DPA or Schoeps league, but with a slight post EQ curve that takes out some of the schwizzle, they can be quite formidable.
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Re: Mics similar to DPA 402x (a small FET, not actives with mic body)
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2007, 11:05:19 AM »
Also worth looking at the new Sennheiser MKH 8000 series - they are TINY.

Take off the XLR connector and use the remote cable and they are even smaller - the mic. itself is only 19mm Ø x 41mm.

I'll be getting a pair soon. :D



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