Topic: MT II problems

[anhisr]

The V3 - MTII 24/96 problem will be a thing of the past very,very soon.  I have this from the highest of authority.   

[modmike]

Honestly though if it wasn't for Michael at Grace Designs this would have taken a lot longer....I would have bet money on that.  Maudio seems to move at their own pace.  Maudio does not impress me where as Grace Designs does....

T+ to Mike....

Anyone try a MT2 with a minime yet...Please don't tell me Apogee needs to create a work around as well....

peace  OOK

I contacted Apogee tech support --
Their reply:

Hello,

Yes, this data is present in the digital audio outputs of the Mini-Me.

Best regards,

Brett Patrick
Tech Support Specialist
Apogee Electronics

My question --
QUESTION:It seems that newer digital audio recorders like the M Audio MicroTrack II 24/96 Handheld 2 Track Portable Recorder -- and the Sony PCM D50 Recorder --  both require sample rate and bit depth sub-code data in the digital audio stream to configure their recording parameters.

Do Rec C Minime's provide this sample rate and bit depth sub-code data in their digital audio streams?

Grace Designs is doing an upgrade for their V3 units.
Does the Minime need such an upgrade -- and if so -- will one be available from Apogee?
SUPPORT ID:8944

[OOK]

Honestly though if it wasn't for Michael at Grace Designs this would have taken a lot longer....I would have bet money on that.  Maudio seems to move at their own pace.  Maudio does not impress me where as Grace Designs does....

T+ to Mike....

Anyone try a MT2 with a minime yet...Please don't tell me Apogee needs to create a work around as well....

peace  OOK

I contacted Apogee tech support --
Their reply:

Hello,

Yes, this data is present in the digital audio outputs of the Mini-Me.

Best regards,

Brett Patrick
Tech Support Specialist
Apogee Electronics

My question --
QUESTION:It seems that newer digital audio recorders like the M Audio MicroTrack II 24/96 Handheld 2 Track Portable Recorder -- and the Sony PCM D50 Recorder --  both require sample rate and bit depth sub-code data in the digital audio stream to configure their recording parameters.

Do Rec C Minime's provide this sample rate and bit depth sub-code data in their digital audio streams?

Grace Designs is doing an upgrade for their V3 units.
Does the Minime need such an upgrade -- and if so -- will one be available from Apogee?
SUPPORT ID:8944

SAAAWWEEEETTTT! 

I might have to get one now....I still might take a wait and see attitude but T+ for following up on this

Peace OOK

[anhisr]

M-Audio's fix is in.

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,96288.0.html

[CGB Spender]

I just got a MicroTrack II and am wondering if anyone else with this model has the following problem. The right level control and volume control seem to work intermittently. When booting up the device, the right level and headphone controls wither work normally or do not function at all, including not activating the backlight. The only way to correct this is to reboot, sometimes having to do so several times before these controls function again. All the other controls, including the left level control, always work fine. No combination of settings that I've encountered seems to have any effect on this problem.

[deadheaded]

so i have used the mt2 twice in the field and have not had good luck.
1st time froze up twice analog in from korg mr-1000, i already posted about that.
2nd time, new years eve, spdif 24/48 from v-3, froze up again and didn't save the file.
good thing it is only a back up for the mr-1000. which works flawlessly.
i hope everyone else is having better luck.
ed

[mblindsey]

so i have used the mt2 twice in the field and have not had good luck.
1st time froze up twice analog in from korg mr-1000, i already posted about that.
2nd time, new years eve, spdif 24/48 from v-3, froze up again and didn't save the file.
good thing it is only a back up for the mr-1000. which works flawlessly.
i hope everyone else is having better luck.
ed

I haven't had it freeze up yet at all, but I've only run it from behind my D8.  I've chickened out at last minute every time and haven't run it solo.  Tomorrow, I'm going to turn it on and record at 24/48 until my 4GB card fills up.  I'll do that several times this weekend, and post the results here.

--Michael

[busterr]

so i have used the mt2 twice in the field and have not had good luck.
1st time froze up twice analog in from korg mr-1000, i already posted about that.
2nd time, new years eve, spdif 24/48 from v-3, froze up again and didn't save the file.
good thing it is only a back up for the mr-1000. which works flawlessly.
i hope everyone else is having better luck.
ed

Have you tried different cf cards with the same result? Not that thats the problem as it's probably the same one you used in your MTI, but may be something to consider trying if you have another to test. Otherwise it may be time for a trade in and hope for better luck with a different unit, since it seems to be developing a pattern of not working. They were always pretty good about swapping the MTI out for a new one.
This is certainly a concern though, I've got one on the way now and suppose it will be delegated to backup duty as well until I feel comfortable with it as a primary bucket.

[upsonr]

so i have used the mt2 twice in the field and have not had good luck.
1st time froze up twice analog in from korg mr-1000, i already posted about that.
2nd time, new years eve, spdif 24/48 from v-3, froze up again and didn't save the file.
good thing it is only a back up for the mr-1000. which works flawlessly.
i hope everyone else is having better luck.
ed

My MTII is freezing up also.  Analog input.  Lexar 2GB PatinumII 80x CF card.  The file saving icon disappears and all functions stop working.  Only holding the power button down for a few seconds turns if off, without the usual shutdown notification.  Recording is not saved javascript:void(0);
Sad

[mblindsey]

so i have used the mt2 twice in the field and have not had good luck.
1st time froze up twice analog in from korg mr-1000, i already posted about that.
2nd time, new years eve, spdif 24/48 from v-3, froze up again and didn't save the file.
good thing it is only a back up for the mr-1000. which works flawlessly.
i hope everyone else is having better luck.
ed

I haven't had it freeze up yet at all, but I've only run it from behind my D8.  I've chickened out at last minute every time and haven't run it solo.  Tomorrow, I'm going to turn it on and record at 24/48 until my 4GB card fills up.  I'll do that several times this weekend, and post the results here.

--Michael

I left the following to record a radio playing in a room yesterday:

C42MP > V3 > MT II

I used the S/PDIF in on the MT II and recorded at 24/48 on a SanDisk Ultra II 4GB card until the media was full.  I ended up with 3 files, that Ubuntu reports as having the following sizes:

1.9 GB (1999953028 bytes) or 01h 55m 44s in Audacity
1.9 GB (1999854724 bytes) or 01h 55m 43s in Audacity
83.8 MB (87841924 bytes)  or 00h 05m 04s in Audacity

I had no problems with the device locking up on me, and I ran the test twice.

I'm running the 1.0.1 firmware.

--Michael

Edit: to fix file times...

[anhisr]

Did you do that with an external battery attached?

[mblindsey]

Did you do that with an external battery attached?

Yes, I did use an external battery on the MT II.  I wanted to see how long my one-off re-purposed DVD battery would last (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,96307.0.html)...I'm updating that post with the battery details.

--Michael

[anhisr]

I managed to get over 5 hours with the internal battery.  Lights off, digi in, and not using the pass through signal to listen while it was recording.  I will have an external ready but, for now I will just use the internal until I need to plug in an external. The battery meter goes down quick until about half way down.  Then it is slow till the end.  It will give you two different messages when it is running low.  First is a "battery is low" warning.  Then you get a "battery is out of power" and the recording stops and it writes the last file before shutting down.  You get about 2 minutes between the two messages. 

You should run it down a couple times and try it out. You might not need to run the external all the time. 

[willndmb]

if the MT2 battery is anything like the MT1 battery that 5hrs will drop fast
i would always have external power ready to go with these things

[mblindsey]

I managed to get over 5 hours with the internal battery.  Lights off, digi in, and not using the pass through signal to listen while it was recording.  I will have an external ready but, for now I will just use the internal until I need to plug in an external. The battery meter goes down quick until about half way down.  Then it is slow till the end.  It will give you two different messages when it is running low.  First is a "battery is low" warning.  Then you get a "battery is out of power" and the recording stops and it writes the last file before shutting down.  You get about 2 minutes between the two messages. 

You should run it down a couple times and try it out. You might not need to run the external all the time. 

I'll try again today just to verify that I can fill up a 4GB card at 24/48 on the internal battery.  My prediction is that there will be no problems.  I'm still building confidence to run this thing solo when it really matters.

I need to get a bigger card too, so I can run the thing completely down while recording at 24/48....and maybe get to over 5 hours, like you (that's awesome, btw).

--Michael