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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: OOK on February 23, 2019, 01:26:07 PM
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Its been a while since I looked at mics, let alone record... But These look interesting.....
Warm Audio WA-84
https://warmaudio.com/wa-84/
Cinemag trans, Wmia caps and Fairchild FETs... Additional caps in the future.
At 749$ a matched set...
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Wow this looks great, wish they’d fit in a hat. :headphones:
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Clearly angling after the Neumann vibe. Perhaps I missed it, but where does it say that the capsules are swappable and that other capsules are forthcoming? I would be a lot more interested in these if that was indeed the case.
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Australian capsule supplier
RØDE? BeesNeez? Any others?
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Australian capsule supplier
RØDE? BeesNeez? Any others?
Those Rode capsules are probably made in China anyway. There is a lot of magic involved in those capsules. Circuits are easy, capsules are hard :)
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Australian capsule supplier
RØDE? BeesNeez? Any others?
LuLu mics? think they r going for the km84 vibe. T.H.E. mics also?
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Clearly angling after the Neumann vibe. Perhaps I missed it, but where does it say that the capsules are swappable and that other capsules are forthcoming? I would be a lot more interested in these if that was indeed the case.
I watched a vid from nam2019 where their spokesman said the caps are swappable, with other patterns possibly to follow. I read or saw where the capsules a nickel vaporized..
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Australian capsule supplier
RØDE? BeesNeez? Any others?
3u Audio? Or do they outsource their capsules?
http://www.3uaudio.com/cp.asp?id=694
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I hate to be the spoil sport, but I can't help but feeling about these kinds of things the way I do about the B9Audio Schoeps knockoffs.
Why do companies try to create knockoffs of the products of other companies? It seems tragically disingenuous to make money off of the good name (and marketing dollars) of others.
Why not design something *you* think is good on its own terms and sell that?
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I usually feel the same way, but this a "clone" of a discontinued product that the original manufacturer has declined to bring back market.
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I usually feel the same way, but this a "clone" of a discontinued product that the original manufacturer has declined to bring back market.
Indeed. They're literally embracing a discarded topology to recreate a thrown away sound. It's more like Chinese tube gear than some sort of uninspired copy cat production to me. There's a reason old Scholl 84's bring a premium while the newer mics seem ignored. We could be idiots but it could also be cool someone is trying to give us a copy of these iconic mics.
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The capsule you can currently swap in is a real Neumann KM84 replacement part, which can be had for something close to $600 apiece.
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The Neumann KK 84 (the ~$600 part just referred to) requires not just matching threads and contacts, but also the correct size and shape for both the screened acoustic inlet behind the backplate, and the (roughly) hemispherical insulating spacer into which the contact pin is inserted.
The capsules for the standard cardioid in Neumann's KM 100, KM 180 and KM A/KM D microphone series are identical to those in the KM 84--but they sound distinctly different in the newer series mikes because those two design components are shaped and dimensioned differently.
So if Neumann capsules are fitted onto these bodies, the result would depend on how closely "Warm Audio" imitated the reflector and the sound inlets of the KM 84/85 (or not). To make it sound like a KM 84, they would almost have to have planned things to work that way specifically.
--best regards
P.S.: NHK in Japan at one point ordered a special-order batch of KM 184s from Neumann with this type of design--they evidently had a fair number of spare KK 84 capsule heads on hand, and wanted to use them with the newer, transformerless electronics of the KM 180 series. (I asked; Neumann has no more of those microphones left.)