Topic: MS onstage for bluegrass?

[caymanreview]

i taped a great local bluegrass band 2 weeks ago,a nd im headed out to tape them again tomorrow night

fully unplugged. they kind of rotate on stage too 2 mics, one for vocals and one for thier instruments at slightly different heights. except the bass is miked by itself thru the p.a. its a really wierd setup. but the on stage i did sounds most excellent, except it was lacking in bass.

the bass player was the only one that didnt rotate and is all the way on the right of the other 3

i ran on-stage last time in a modified(slightly narrower) DIN cards. and everything sounds great except the bass is almost not there as the up close banjo/mandolin/acoustic guitar overpower it

does anyone think that MS on stage would yield better results? being that the "side" mic will have one side of the cap facing directly at the bass???

i really wanna run on-stage as most of the poeple at the bat wont be there to see these guys,a dn at the last gig (different place) there wee some extremely drunk crowd playing quarters and screaming all night. if i had moved back and taped from the p.a. it would ahve been a disaster i think

any help would be much appreciated

[caymanreview]

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[Scooter]

MS is always fun to play with!  Why not give it a go .  It's really great to be able to vary the width of the image after the fact, see what sounds best and mix it down later.  Just clone your "S" chan to another track, flip the phase, and your "S+" and "S-" chans now are your "width" control.

[twoodruff]

blumlein is also interesting, loved the bluegrass I have done blumlein

[Kwonfidelity]

MS for bluegrass works awesome.  Especially if you have a hyper to use as the mid, you can keep the mics relatively low to accomodate for all types of stringed instruments at various levels, be close enough to boundary of the floor to pick up more bass, and the hyper will grab vocals from down below.  It'll be angled close to 60-70deg.  If you're running cards, I've had much success clamping on to the boom section of the stand and pointing the card directly into the mic they are using for the PA.  The fig8 will pickup the bass you were missing better, I think, than a stereo set-up.   Make sure you crank the mid mic since sometime a singer will not get close enough to the mic to catch it clearly.

[spcyrfc]

not sure how it would sound, but of all the bluegrass ive recorded i dig omni's.
healy would work, im sure a baffle would too

[caymanreview]

should i do the ms mix with the v3 or after in the post???

anyone?

[caymanreview]

turned out excellent!

used a hyper for the mid, angled up at them and thier vocals

sounds pretty fuckin sweet for my first attempt at MS!

[Kwonfidelity]

Sweet.  Just keep tinkering with the technique and you'll get a lot of miles from it 

[caymanreview]

i just started taping these guys, but i plan to tape them reguarly from here on out. so il def be trying it alot

good thing i did the MS last night and picked up the bass. they didnt mic the bass through the p.a. so i would have been SOL