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Title: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: ycoop on March 08, 2018, 05:33:50 PM
As part of my perusing recordings and getting in touch with my sound preferences, I've come to find a preference for sub-cardioids. While I'm still a long ways away from my first microphone purchases, I'm wondering if there are any relatively affordable sub-cards on the market. From what I've come across to date the sub-cards are all much higher end price-wise.

Thoughts?

edit: left out that my theoretically future budget would be around $200-300
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: mfrench on March 08, 2018, 05:42:08 PM
Line Audio CM3
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: jbell on March 08, 2018, 06:09:12 PM
Line Audio CM3
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: ycoop on March 08, 2018, 06:28:38 PM
Thanks y'all. Now to find some pulls to see what kind of quality I'd be looking at.

  :coolguy:
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: mfrench on March 08, 2018, 06:35:14 PM
Acoustic Classical music, live:
https://archive.org/details/pso2017-03-19.pso2017-03-19_cm3pair_m.o.edit_2448flac
https://archive.org/details/pso2017-03-19.pso017-03-19_cm3pair_m.o.edit_1644flac
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: heathen on March 08, 2018, 07:10:43 PM
If you want some examples of loud/PA stuff: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=172445.msg2251535#msg2251535
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: ycoop on March 08, 2018, 08:33:29 PM
If you want some examples of loud/PA stuff: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=172445.msg2251535#msg2251535

Thanks!

I'll move further talk on the LA CA3s to that team board.
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: goodcooker on March 08, 2018, 10:25:49 PM

Peluso sub cards are the best on the market until you get to the high end.  A perfect blend of clarity and warmth.
I already had Peluso CEMC mics so getting a new pair of caps only cost me $190.

I just got a pair of MBHO KA300 wide cardioid capsules and they may not be classified by some folks as "affordable" since that is a pretty loose term but I got a brand new pair of capsules and the active setup to run them for less than $900. I call that affordable for what I get. My first go with them - https://archive.org/details/matis2018-03-02.mbho.ka300.flac (https://archive.org/details/matis2018-03-02.mbho.ka300.flac)

Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 09, 2018, 01:06:11 AM
I would also recommend the Line Audio CM3 subcards! I've never had a pair personally, but I've heard countless Recordings of them and really like their sound! For under $300/Shipped, doesn't get much more affordable than that IMO :)
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: heva on March 09, 2018, 02:54:37 AM
https://griffon-microphones.jimdo.com/mo-7/

Don't know specifics or anything.

Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: Craig T on March 09, 2018, 11:13:17 AM
https://archive.org/search.php?query=%22line%20audio%20cm3%22

In that price range, Line Audio cm3 hands down.  Just be aware that unlike many higher-priced subcards, the low end response on the cm3 is a bit rolled off.  I think it's an advantage for bass-heavy PA mixes.  I used to apply EQ or multi-band compression on a lot of my recordings made with Schoeps mk21 to tame the LF.  If the LF is too thin, you can always boost with some EQ.
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: adrianf74 on March 09, 2018, 11:26:21 AM
I would also recommend the Line Audio CM3 subcards! I've never had a pair personally, but I've heard countless Recordings of them and really like their sound! For under $300/Shipped, doesn't get much more affordable than that IMO :)

Been hovering around $360-$400 these days, Bean.  I've been looking for a pair of used, reasonably priced ones but haven't had any luck as yet.
Title: Re: Affordable sub-cardioids?
Post by: lsd2525 on March 09, 2018, 11:42:14 AM
I would also recommend the Line Audio CM3 subcards! I've never had a pair personally, but I've heard countless Recordings of them and really like their sound! For under $300/Shipped, doesn't get much more affordable than that IMO :)

Been hovering around $360-$400 these days, Bean.  I've been looking for a pair of used, reasonably priced ones but haven't had any luck as yet.


Damn things are tiny too. About half the size of my AT4041's